Really a lot of these I might not use, but I feel they're wasted the way they are so, how about...
A new T6 Excelsior with a LT miracle worker and an Ensign Pilot, or visa versa.
A T6 temporal ambassador, I mean that's a given.
A T6 Pilot Nova.
A revised T6 Luna, probably intel or temporal (I'd rather the temporal, but either would be good.)
T6 Pilot Andorran ships, or a new three pack with one of each kind.
A T6 Miracle worker New Orleans Escort/Destroyer.
That's about what I can think of right now.
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> @markhawkman said:
> Ummm... anything associated with Axanar is probably off-limits for legal reasons.
No probably, absolutely and for all time.
besides issues between the Axanar team and CBS, even EU material is mostly off-limits for Cryptic, so fan material is absolutely out of limits as it doesn't even have official approval EU material has.
As a rule of thumb, if something wasn't seen in TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT, DSC or any of the movies it's off-limits for cryptic to add it into the game, also I think the Kelvin timeline movies are in bit of a grey area.
Not exactly. There is a fan ship in this game after all. However the devs have said that it was such a headache that such a thing is very unlikely in the future. As far as axanar is concerned however...that goes beyond fan made legal issues headaches as Peters has done his damnest to burn every single bloody bridge between him and the IP holders.
The Odyssey seems to have been a failed experiment. Not because the design itself was flawed, but because the contest was problematic. Pretty much everything that could go wrong with it did.
I would love to see a tier six patrol escort, with a starship trait an console that leans on a more hit and run/strafing style of play, since the ship gives me that kinda vibe. Also a tier six starcruiser using the tier five style, or atleast with the option to use that style's parts/skin. There is the heavy cruiser (not the advanced heavy though) that would be fun to see made into a tier six, though maybe use it's design to influence a heavy battle-cruiser that can use the parts from the old heavy cruiser line.
Also definitely would like to see a tier six Nova, though using the concept of the pathfinder Defiant design, which is basically a quad-nacelle Nova, which seemed to be more of a fast torpedo oriented vessel.
I'd definitely like to see a T6 Nova, and would love to see the above-quad nacelle variant
I'd also like to see the New Orleans, both at T6, but also at T4, as a levelling ship.
I've never been a fan of the Ambassador, but, I know it has its fans, so I'd like to see the T6 for them.
It goes without saying, but, MOAR KLINGON SHIPS! PleaseandThankyou
I would also love to see a T6 Ares. That it was involved in Axanar shouldn't be a problem (at least, not an insurmountable one)... The production crew of Axanar have come to an agreement with CBS/Paramount, which I suspect could be leveraged in some way, such as 'CBS/Paramount claim ownership of the design under their IP, and thus allow Cryptic to use it.' Apple didn't invent Siri, they purchased Ori, and reconfigured and rebranded it into Siri. I suggest a similar outlook to this Alternately, Cryptic could just contact the designer of the Ares, and simply buy the design from him. I don't consider Axanar, as a project, to be any more or any less divisive than Discovery, and given that we're undoubtably going to get Discovery content at some point (which will trigger some) I don't see why we can't also have the Ares (which will also trigger some) because for every person who wouldn't want to see it, there will be another person, who will pay cold hard cash to be able to fly it
Time for some serious IDIC on this matter: If you don't like it, fine, just go on with your business, rather than feeling the need to engage those who do. You don't have to retort and respond to everything which triggers you, like a dog who's kennel has been kicked...
If it's not the ship for you, fine. Just remember; Someone else thinks your favorite ship is garbage... Learn to respect the subjective
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> @silverlobes#2676 said:
> I'd definitely like to see a T6 Nova, and would love to see the above-quad nacelle variant
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> I'd also like to see the New Orleans, both at T6, but also at T4, as a levelling ship.
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> I've never been a fan of the Ambassador, but, I know it has its fans, so I'd like to see the T6 for them.
>
> It goes without saying, but, MOAR KLINGON SHIPS! PleaseandThankyou
>
> I would also love to see a T6 Ares. That it was involved in Axanar shouldn't be a problem (at least, not an insurmountable one)... The production crew of Axanar have come to an agreement with CBS/Paramount, which I suspect could be leveraged in some way, such as 'CBS/Paramount claim ownership of the design under their IP, and thus allow Cryptic to use it.' Apple didn't invent Siri, they purchased Ori, and reconfigured and rebranded it into Siri. I suggest a similar outlook to this Alternately, Cryptic could just contact the designer of the Ares, and simply buy the design from him. I don't consider Axanar, as a project, to be any more or any less divisive than Discovery, and given that we're undoubtably going to get Discovery content at some point (which will trigger some) I don't see why we can't also have the Ares (which will also trigger some) because for every person who wouldn't want to see it, there will be another person, who will pay cold hard cash to be able to fly it
>
> Time for some serious IDIC on this matter: If you don't like it, fine, just go on with your business, rather than feeling the need to engage those who do. You don't have to retort and respond to everything which triggers you, like a dog who's kennel has been kicked...
>
> If it's not the ship for you, fine. Just remember; Someone else thinks your favorite ship is garbage... Learn to respect the subjective
Umm no silver, there is no chance at all of any Axanar material ever showing up in any licensed Trek product ever. You may think its no more divisive than Discovery but that does not matter one iota. Disxoverybis made by the franchise owners, not a licensee like Paramount or Cryptic, the owners, it is not possible to get more official than that. As for the "agreement" you think Peters came to which ended the lawsuit, you should really look some things up. If Cryptic even considered using material from it they could lose the license to make this game, be subjected to lawsuit themselves, and more. This is not about "subjective tastes" this is about cold hard legalities.
There are for example far fewer legal roadblocks preventing the use of ship designs from the Franz Joseph Tech Manual, and no Trek production sonce TMP in 1978 has even touched it. We will get those designs long long before any Trek franchise licensee ever ever even says the name Alec Peters.
Well, you (once again) have missed just about every point I made, due to your need to argue with me.
Just to reiterate one of thise points: Time for some serious IDIC on this matter: If you don't like it, fine, just go on with your business, rather than feeling the need to engage those who do. You don't have to retort and respond to everything which triggers you, like a dog who's kennel has been kicked...
[Edit to add] I completrly agree, we're highly unlikely to ever see the Ares in-game. But. That doesn't mean it is impossible for a business agreement to be reached.
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I sincerely hope to NEVER see anything remotely related to Axanar in STO. It is all fanfic. Unlicensed fanfic. Which a greedy individual decided to use to profit from. Despite Star Trek being the intellectual property of someone else. Then, this same individual decided to argue and pretend he was not doing so. To the point where he angered the owners of the Star Trek IP into legal action. Which completely ruined ANY chance of someone else offering up something which was good.
No amount of wishful or willful deliberate ignoring of the facts as they are can change this.
A sad part of this sorry mess to me is recognized Star Trek actors and others associated with the franchise participated in this fraud. Either through willful ignorance of their own or in a deliberate collaboration of copyright infringement.
Even sadder is the fact a part of the Star Trek fanbase bought into this charlatan's actions wholesale and are now either too proud or too dimwitted to admit they made a mistake.
And Axanar isn't even good fanfiction. It is Starship Troopers in Federation uniforms. Overwrought. Over the top to the point of ridiculousness and just plain bad. Even the ship which some people coo over looks childishly stupid and nothing like anything connected to Star Trek. All someone did was remake a Klingon battlecruiser in a Starfleet image. And din't even bother to do a good job of ripping off someone else.
I would rather see CBS, Paramount and Cryptic retire Star Trek Online permanently than ever have anything from the abomination known as Axanar in it. And if anything from Axanar ever does show up in STO, I am gone like the cool breeze. I see no good reason at all to give money to anyone stupid enough to be outsmarted by a self serving con artist who doesn't give a damn about Star Trek as long as he gets enough money from idiots to start up his own movie studio.
A six year old boy and his starship. Living the dream.
I sincerely hope to NEVER see anything remotely related to Axanar in STO. [/b]It is all fanfic. Unlicensed fanfic. Which a greedy individual decided to use to profit from. Despite Star Trek being the intellectual property of someone else. Then, this same individual decided to argue and pretend he was not doing so. To the point where he angered the owners of the Star Trek IP into legal action. Which completely ruined ANY chance of someone else offering up something which was good.
No amount of wishful or willful deliberate ignoring of the facts as they are can change this.[/b]
A sad part of this sorry mess to me is recognized Star Trek actors and others associated with the franchise participated in this fraud. Either through willful ignorance of their own or in a deliberate collaboration of copyright infringement.
Even sadder is the fact a part of the Star Trek fanbase bought into this charlatan's actions wholesale and are now either too proud or too dimwitted to admit they made a mistake.
And Axanar isn't even good fanfiction. It is Starship Troopers in Federation uniforms. Overwrought. Over the top to the point of ridiculousness and just plain bad. Even the ship which some people coo over looks childishly stupid and nothing like anything connected to Star Trek. All someone did was remake a Klingon battlecruiser in a Starfleet image. And din't even bother to do a good job of ripping off someone else.
I would rather see CBS, Paramount and Cryptic retire Star Trek Online permanently than ever have anything from the abomination known as Axanar in it. And if anything from Axanar ever does show up in STO, I am gone like the cool breeze. I see no good reason at all to give money to anyone stupid enough to be outsmarted by a self serving con artist who doesn't give a damn about Star Trek as long as he gets enough money from idiots to start up his own movie studio.
Totally true.
Doesn't change the fact that there are folks who liked the design of the Ares, and would pay to be able to fly it...
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And you are still missing the point: #3rdTimeLucky
If you don't like something someone says, fine, just go on with your business, rather than feeling the need to engage those who say something you don't like. You don't have to retort and respond to everything which triggers you, like a dog who's kennel has been kicked...
What Larry Niven has said HAS ABSOLUTELY NO BEARING ON THIS MATTER WHATSOEVER...
I totally get why people are pissed at Alec Peters (I'M pissed at Alec Peters, because thanks to him, no more Star Trek Continues) But this isn't about Alec Peters. Or about Axanar: It's about people saying what ships they'd like to see. Some would like to see the Ares (you even say you kind of like it yourself) So what's the beef? Why feel the need to argue why You Think, what someone else has said they would Like to see, won't happen?
Again, CBS/Paramount has the IP. If they want to take and use the design of the Ares, they'll do it. (Again, consider how Apple acquired Ori to repurpose into Siri. While we may not get an Ares Class, we might, for example, end up seeing the near-identical Mars Class)
They Do Business. The idea that they couldn't Do Business on this, is nonsense. I agree, they likely won't but that doesn't mean that they can't or couldn't.
I would rather see CBS, Paramount and Cryptic retire Star Trek Online permanently than ever have anything from the abomination known as Axanar in it. And if anything from Axanar ever does show up in STO, I am gone like the cool breeze. I see no good reason at all to give money to anyone stupid enough to be outsmarted by a self serving con artist who doesn't give a damn about Star Trek as long as he gets enough money from idiots to start up his own movie studio.
This is, of course, your decision, and I have no problem with it generally. I just wanted to say I would never let a decision made by the dev team to influence my decision to continue playing. I'd just play along and ignore whatever item that I disagreed with that I see in the game. I did that when the giant pancake ship was all the rage and I thought it was the most ugly thing I'd ever seen. Not to mention so huge that everything else could hide underneath it.
That's just the way I feel.
Now a LTS and loving it.
Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
I have come to the conclusion that I have a memory like Etch-A-Sketch. I shake my head and forget everything.
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Doesn't look big enough to be torpedo-oriented, looks like it would probably run out after 10 seconds of battle.
Well in the info on it from Memory apha wiki site, that says that it was designed to be a torpedo oriented design. Though I could see it being more of a bomber type ship design, that it would warp into a system an launch a volley of torpedoes, or even launch the volley while still in route in warp.
smaller escorts were designed as "hit and run" after dumping the torp salvos and then defending the cruisers to outflank.
True though I am more meaning in the ship's consoles, bonuses, and also the ship trait it has making using a strafing/hit and run style of play more appealing to use. You can use that style of play, but honestly it would be nice to have more traits an such that make such a style more appealing. Like I have always thought that having a trait that gave your forward weapons a stacking buff during points that that the primary target is not in their firing arc, or that you only have targets in your rear weapon firing arc.
Ships licensed to STO from other science fiction properties would probably come with a very hefty price tag attached. That license has to be paid for and the product needs to return enough on investment to justify and support the initial costs. Nevermind the legalities involved. Which is an entirely different can of worms(lawyers).
@baddmoonrizin
I have refrained from posting in any of the Axanar threads or referring to Alec Peters or Axanar in any way. Until the post which caught your attention. Alec Peters played the fans of Star Trek in a big way and continues to do so. Thanks to his stupidity and greediness, fanfiction for Star Trek and science fiction on the internet has been changed. And not for the good. There are a lot of tremendously talented people who now have no chance to share their gifts with us and make Star Trek better because they love the characters and setting and their fellow fans.
Alec Peters has made Star Trek a smaller poorer place by his greed and thoughtlessness. And people who are smart enough to know better are being conned by him to this day.
A six year old boy and his starship. Living the dream.
Ships licensed to STO from other science fiction properties would probably come with a very hefty price tag attached. That license has to be paid for and the product needs to return enough on investment to justify and support the initial costs. Nevermind the legalities involved. Which is an entirely different can of worms(lawyers).
@baddmoonrizin
I have refrained from posting in any of the Axanar threads or referring to Alec Peters or Axanar in any way. Until the post which caught your attention. Alec Peters played the fans of Star Trek in a big way and continues to do so. Thanks to his stupidity and greediness, fanfiction for Star Trek and science fiction on the internet has been changed. And not for the good. There are a lot of tremendously talented people who now have no chance to share their gifts with us and make Star Trek better because they love the characters and setting and their fellow fans.
Alec Peters has made Star Trek a smaller poorer place by his greed and thoughtlessness. And people who are smart enough to know better are being conned by him to this day.
Absolutely, I completely agree But look at the cost of the Kelvin ships, or the T6 Connie: Certainly not cheap, but those who want them, and can afford them, get them (or save up to get them) I don't see this as any different.
Star Trek can't have Kzinti, so we have something else. STO may not be able to secure the rights to the Ares, but something the-same-but-different, there is, as mentioned a sentence back, already in-game precedent for such inclusions. Like I said, I agree that it likely won't happen, but that doesn't mean that it can't or couldn't happen
And as for Alec Peters, the less said about him, the better... He totally screwed things for everyone
And, as I also said yesterday, this is a thread about what ships people want to see: I said what I wanted to see, and got jumped on for voicing that... IDIC...
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Ships licensed to STO from other science fiction properties would probably come with a very hefty price tag attached. That license has to be paid for and the product needs to return enough on investment to justify and support the initial costs. Nevermind the legalities involved. Which is an entirely different can of worms(lawyers).
@baddmoonrizin
I have refrained from posting in any of the Axanar threads or referring to Alec Peters or Axanar in any way. Until the post which caught your attention. Alec Peters played the fans of Star Trek in a big way and continues to do so. Thanks to his stupidity and greediness, fanfiction for Star Trek and science fiction on the internet has been changed. And not for the good. There are a lot of tremendously talented people who now have no chance to share their gifts with us and make Star Trek better because they love the characters and setting and their fellow fans.
Alec Peters has made Star Trek a smaller poorer place by his greed and thoughtlessness. And people who are smart enough to know better are being conned by him to this day.
Absolutely, I completely agree But look at the cost of the Kelvin ships, or the T6 Connie: Certainly not cheap, but those who want them, and can afford them, get them (or save up to get them) I don't see this as any different.
Star Trek can't have Kzinti, so we have something else. STO may not be able to secure the rights to the Ares, but something the-same-but-different, there is, as mentioned a sentence back, already in-game precedent for such inclusions. Like I said, I agree that it likely won't happen, but that doesn't mean that it can't or couldn't happen
And as for Alec Peters, the less said about him, the better... He totally screwed things for everyone
And, as I also said yesterday, this is a thread about what ships people want to see: I said what I wanted to see, and got jumped on for voicing that... IDIC...
Ships licensed to STO from other science fiction properties would probably come with a very hefty price tag attached. That license has to be paid for and the product needs to return enough on investment to justify and support the initial costs. Nevermind the legalities involved. Which is an entirely different can of worms(lawyers).
@baddmoonrizin
I have refrained from posting in any of the Axanar threads or referring to Alec Peters or Axanar in any way. Until the post which caught your attention. Alec Peters played the fans of Star Trek in a big way and continues to do so. Thanks to his stupidity and greediness, fanfiction for Star Trek and science fiction on the internet has been changed. And not for the good. There are a lot of tremendously talented people who now have no chance to share their gifts with us and make Star Trek better because they love the characters and setting and their fellow fans.
Alec Peters has made Star Trek a smaller poorer place by his greed and thoughtlessness. And people who are smart enough to know better are being conned by him to this day.
Absolutely, I completely agree But look at the cost of the Kelvin ships, or the T6 Connie: Certainly not cheap, but those who want them, and can afford them, get them (or save up to get them) I don't see this as any different.
Star Trek can't have Kzinti, so we have something else. STO may not be able to secure the rights to the Ares, but something the-same-but-different, there is, as mentioned a sentence back, already in-game precedent for such inclusions. Like I said, I agree that it likely won't happen, but that doesn't mean that it can't or couldn't happen
And as for Alec Peters, the less said about him, the better... He totally screwed things for everyone
And, as I also said yesterday, this is a thread about what ships people want to see: I said what I wanted to see, and got jumped on for voicing that... IDIC...
Was just watching First Contact again..And it made me want the norway more!! For a medium cruiser, its visiously fast and quick at turning..And made me wonder why the sov doesnt have the turn rate like the movie...
Was just watching First Contact again..And it made me want the norway more!! For a medium cruiser, its visiously fast and quick at turning..And made me wonder why the sov doesnt have the turn rate like the movie...
Game balance & the Enterprise is a hero/protagonist ship.
And, as I also said yesterday, this is a thread about what ships people want to see: I said what I wanted to see, and got jumped on for voicing that... IDIC...
Well, I have yet to see a single ship in Discovery I'd be unwilling to fly. Unenthusiastic? Perhaps, but unwilling? no.
And, as I also said yesterday, this is a thread about what ships people want to see: I said what I wanted to see, and got jumped on for voicing that... IDIC...
Well, I have yet to see a single ship in Discovery I'd be unwilling to fly. Unenthusiastic? Perhaps, but unwilling? no.
I'm sorry, but I'm not sure how your comment corresponds to what I wrote, which you quoted Please can you clarify for me?
I might not want to fly a Crossfield, but in a recent discussion on how the Discovery content could be added, I was the only commentator who addressed how the mechanic of the Spore Dive could potentially be achieved, by introducing a Crossfield-specific animation, to be used when the existing Transwarp Menu is selected... A ship I don't even want to fly, yet I gave the subject more thought that anyone else who was commenting on the thread, because I knew other people want to be able to fly it. So please, can you clarify why you responded thusly to that which you quoted?
[Edit to Clarify]
I'm not trying to be confrontational, I genuinely don't understand how what you've said, corresponds to the sentence I wrote which you quoted, and I'm asking for clarification, so I can respond appropriately and on-topic
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A new T6 Excelsior with a LT miracle worker and an Ensign Pilot, or visa versa.
A T6 temporal ambassador, I mean that's a given.
A T6 Pilot Nova.
A revised T6 Luna, probably intel or temporal (I'd rather the temporal, but either would be good.)
T6 Pilot Andorran ships, or a new three pack with one of each kind.
A T6 Miracle worker New Orleans Escort/Destroyer.
That's about what I can think of right now.
My character Tsin'xing
Also definitely would like to see a tier six Nova, though using the concept of the pathfinder Defiant design, which is basically a quad-nacelle Nova, which seemed to be more of a fast torpedo oriented vessel.
I'd also like to see the New Orleans, both at T6, but also at T4, as a levelling ship.
I've never been a fan of the Ambassador, but, I know it has its fans, so I'd like to see the T6 for them.
It goes without saying, but, MOAR KLINGON SHIPS! PleaseandThankyou
I would also love to see a T6 Ares. That it was involved in Axanar shouldn't be a problem (at least, not an insurmountable one)... The production crew of Axanar have come to an agreement with CBS/Paramount, which I suspect could be leveraged in some way, such as 'CBS/Paramount claim ownership of the design under their IP, and thus allow Cryptic to use it.' Apple didn't invent Siri, they purchased Ori, and reconfigured and rebranded it into Siri. I suggest a similar outlook to this
Time for some serious IDIC on this matter: If you don't like it, fine, just go on with your business, rather than feeling the need to engage those who do. You don't have to retort and respond to everything which triggers you, like a dog who's kennel has been kicked...
If it's not the ship for you, fine. Just remember; Someone else thinks your favorite ship is garbage... Learn to respect the subjective
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Just to reiterate one of thise points: Time for some serious IDIC on this matter: If you don't like it, fine, just go on with your business, rather than feeling the need to engage those who do. You don't have to retort and respond to everything which triggers you, like a dog who's kennel has been kicked...
[Edit to add] I completrly agree, we're highly unlikely to ever see the Ares in-game. But. That doesn't mean it is impossible for a business agreement to be reached.
"I was here before you, I will be here after you are gone. I am here, regardless of your acknowledgement or acceptance..." - The Truth
No amount of wishful or willful deliberate ignoring of the facts as they are can change this.
A sad part of this sorry mess to me is recognized Star Trek actors and others associated with the franchise participated in this fraud. Either through willful ignorance of their own or in a deliberate collaboration of copyright infringement.
Even sadder is the fact a part of the Star Trek fanbase bought into this charlatan's actions wholesale and are now either too proud or too dimwitted to admit they made a mistake.
And Axanar isn't even good fanfiction. It is Starship Troopers in Federation uniforms. Overwrought. Over the top to the point of ridiculousness and just plain bad. Even the ship which some people coo over looks childishly stupid and nothing like anything connected to Star Trek. All someone did was remake a Klingon battlecruiser in a Starfleet image. And din't even bother to do a good job of ripping off someone else.
I would rather see CBS, Paramount and Cryptic retire Star Trek Online permanently than ever have anything from the abomination known as Axanar in it. And if anything from Axanar ever does show up in STO, I am gone like the cool breeze. I see no good reason at all to give money to anyone stupid enough to be outsmarted by a self serving con artist who doesn't give a damn about Star Trek as long as he gets enough money from idiots to start up his own movie studio.
Doesn't change the fact that there are folks who liked the design of the Ares, and would pay to be able to fly it...
"I was here before you, I will be here after you are gone. I am here, regardless of your acknowledgement or acceptance..." - The Truth
What Larry Niven has said HAS ABSOLUTELY NO BEARING ON THIS MATTER WHATSOEVER...
I totally get why people are pissed at Alec Peters (I'M pissed at Alec Peters, because thanks to him, no more Star Trek Continues) But this isn't about Alec Peters. Or about Axanar: It's about people saying what ships they'd like to see. Some would like to see the Ares (you even say you kind of like it yourself) So what's the beef? Why feel the need to argue why You Think, what someone else has said they would Like to see, won't happen?
Again, CBS/Paramount has the IP. If they want to take and use the design of the Ares, they'll do it. (Again, consider how Apple acquired Ori to repurpose into Siri. While we may not get an Ares Class, we might, for example, end up seeing the near-identical Mars Class)
They Do Business. The idea that they couldn't Do Business on this, is nonsense. I agree, they likely won't but that doesn't mean that they can't or couldn't.
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This is, of course, your decision, and I have no problem with it generally. I just wanted to say I would never let a decision made by the dev team to influence my decision to continue playing. I'd just play along and ignore whatever item that I disagreed with that I see in the game. I did that when the giant pancake ship was all the rage and I thought it was the most ugly thing I'd ever seen. Not to mention so huge that everything else could hide underneath it.
That's just the way I feel.
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Well in the info on it from Memory apha wiki site, that says that it was designed to be a torpedo oriented design. Though I could see it being more of a bomber type ship design, that it would warp into a system an launch a volley of torpedoes, or even launch the volley while still in route in warp.
True though I am more meaning in the ship's consoles, bonuses, and also the ship trait it has making using a strafing/hit and run style of play more appealing to use. You can use that style of play, but honestly it would be nice to have more traits an such that make such a style more appealing. Like I have always thought that having a trait that gave your forward weapons a stacking buff during points that that the primary target is not in their firing arc, or that you only have targets in your rear weapon firing arc.
Jaguar? if they introduce a Jaguar I want a T-6 911
@baddmoonrizin
I have refrained from posting in any of the Axanar threads or referring to Alec Peters or Axanar in any way. Until the post which caught your attention. Alec Peters played the fans of Star Trek in a big way and continues to do so. Thanks to his stupidity and greediness, fanfiction for Star Trek and science fiction on the internet has been changed. And not for the good. There are a lot of tremendously talented people who now have no chance to share their gifts with us and make Star Trek better because they love the characters and setting and their fellow fans.
Alec Peters has made Star Trek a smaller poorer place by his greed and thoughtlessness. And people who are smart enough to know better are being conned by him to this day.
Star Trek can't have Kzinti, so we have something else. STO may not be able to secure the rights to the Ares, but something the-same-but-different, there is, as mentioned a sentence back, already in-game precedent for such inclusions. Like I said, I agree that it likely won't happen, but that doesn't mean that it can't or couldn't happen
And as for Alec Peters, the less said about him, the better... He totally screwed things for everyone
And, as I also said yesterday, this is a thread about what ships people want to see: I said what I wanted to see, and got jumped on for voicing that... IDIC...
"I was here before you, I will be here after you are gone. I am here, regardless of your acknowledgement or acceptance..." - The Truth
You seem to have overlooked that you basically already have got your wish for the-same-but-different in terms of a ship in that flavor: https://sto.gamepedia.com/Perseus_Temporal_Escort, https://sto.gamepedia.com/Theseus_Temporal_Escort.
Buy the Perseus and the Theseus. Use the Perseus costume for the Theseus. Enjoy, you're as good as STO is going to be for you in that department.
Adu-Uss Firefox NCC-93425-F (LVL 65 FED AoY ENG) UR/VR MKXV Fleet Intel Assault Cruiser (July 2016)
Jean-Uss Seratoga Ravenna (LVL 60 FED Delta ENG) UC/R MKVI Bajoran Escort (April 2018)
Dubsa-RRW Mnaudh (LVL 50 FED allied ROM Delta ENG) Warbird (May 2018)
Marop-IKS Orunthi (LVL 50 KNG Delta ENG) BoP (May 2018)
Kanak'lan-TRIBBLE (LVL 65 DOM Gamma ENG) TRIBBLE (June 2018)
"I was here before you, I will be here after you are gone. I am here, regardless of your acknowledgement or acceptance..." - The Truth
Adu-Uss Firefox NCC-93425-F (LVL 65 FED AoY ENG) UR/VR MKXV Fleet Intel Assault Cruiser (July 2016)
Jean-Uss Seratoga Ravenna (LVL 60 FED Delta ENG) UC/R MKVI Bajoran Escort (April 2018)
Dubsa-RRW Mnaudh (LVL 50 FED allied ROM Delta ENG) Warbird (May 2018)
Marop-IKS Orunthi (LVL 50 KNG Delta ENG) BoP (May 2018)
Kanak'lan-TRIBBLE (LVL 65 DOM Gamma ENG) TRIBBLE (June 2018)
My character Tsin'xing
I might not want to fly a Crossfield, but in a recent discussion on how the Discovery content could be added, I was the only commentator who addressed how the mechanic of the Spore Dive could potentially be achieved, by introducing a Crossfield-specific animation, to be used when the existing Transwarp Menu is selected... A ship I don't even want to fly, yet I gave the subject more thought that anyone else who was commenting on the thread, because I knew other people want to be able to fly it. So please, can you clarify why you responded thusly to that which you quoted?
[Edit to Clarify]
I'm not trying to be confrontational, I genuinely don't understand how what you've said, corresponds to the sentence I wrote which you quoted, and I'm asking for clarification, so I can respond appropriately and on-topic
"I was here before you, I will be here after you are gone. I am here, regardless of your acknowledgement or acceptance..." - The Truth