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pryor#5476 pryor Member Posts: 567 Arc User
Instead of buying R&D Materials off the Exchange for EC, please tell me that there is a place where I can go to mine these elements or just buy them with ZEN

Argonite GAS
Plekton
Dentarioum
RUBIDIUM
Beta-Tachyon
Z-Particals

Need I go on, I pretty much need them all.

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  • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    pryor#5476 wrote: »
    Instead of buying R&D Materials off the Exchange for EC, please tell me that there is a place where I can go to mine these elements or just buy them with ZEN

    Argonite GAS
    Plekton
    Dentarioum
    RUBIDIUM
    Beta-Tachyon
    Z-Particals

    Need I go on, I pretty much need them all.

    admiralty missions and advanced queues award em. some maps have mining points don't remember if any of them give the very rare mats.


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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,918 Arc User
    The Vlugta free mining nodes give out mats, but only white/green ones with the occasional (very, very) blue one. You can buy RnD packs from the z-store, but not guarantee you will get what you listed.

    There are also nodes on mission maps you can mine, but they're random and only rarely you will find a blue one, never a purple one, they're acquired from adv/elite queues or the exchange.
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  • ussvaliant#6064 ussvaliant Member Posts: 1,006 Arc User
    pryor#5476 wrote: »
    Instead of buying R&D Materials off the Exchange for EC, please tell me that there is a place where I can go to mine these elements or just buy them with ZEN

    Argonite GAS
    Plekton
    Dentarioum
    RUBIDIUM
    Beta-Tachyon
    Z-Particals

    Need I go on, I pretty much need them all.

    The purples are pretty easy to get as they are set in stone rewards and are rewarded from advanced or elite stfs. Admiralty can also get you a nice chunk as well.
    However the Blue mats Rubidium/Beta-Tachyon and Z-Particles can be a bigger challenge to obtain as these dropping from any R&D boxes are subject to that horrible Dark Lord of the Sith RNGebus. Admiralty does reward them but not that great.

    With the blues if you have the EC buy them off the exchange if you can

    Also do not buy the C-Store boxes they are slaves to RNGebus and unless part of a promo rewarding lobi or a chance of a ship stay well clear.
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,690 Arc User
    For blue mats, some Science and Exploration duty officer missions award them on critical success.

    For VR, as already mentioned, Admiralty and Advanced queues.
  • tobiashirttobiashirt Member Posts: 630 Arc User
    I use the ec I get from admiralty and selling gear etc. to buy the R&D packs (that other people get out of lockboxes) off the exchange. I sell anything I don't need out of the box, as well as the upgrade boosters, and with a bit of luck the boxes break even. Repeat this cycle on a big enough scale, and you almost get more mats than you can turn into upgrades. I can spare a few if I know where to mail them.
  • strathkinstrathkin Member Posts: 2,671 Bug Hunter
    Also realize when you do any Normal, Advanced or Elite Queue you'll be given R&D materials package if it's completed. You may also find some R&D materials in space or on ground maps and you'll receive upon attempting to pick them up.

    Otherwise you'll require to do Duty Officer missions or Admiralty helps quite a bit more if you do it regularly and have a lot of ships. Still you're able to run out quickly if your making a lot of upgrades or craft items so you may require buying some on the exchange or purchasing R&D packs in the CSTORE depending how often you craft or what your trying to do and how often.
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  • baudlbaudl Member Posts: 4,060 Arc User
    also the research facility has a daily to convert greens and whites into blues and purples+a bunch of dilithium. So buying the cheap ones from the exchange and doing this daily might also be a way for you to get what you need.
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    That Research Facility Project also awards 5k Crafting XP in the School you've picked. It is a 10 second project that unfortunately does require a free Research slot, so don't load up your Research Daily Projects if you are going to do this.

    They are a bit inconsistent with this Project in that it requires a slot, where things like the Fleet Mine assignment that refines 500 Dilitium daily, does not need a Boff Assignment slot.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    Throw money at it.. buy RnD packs.
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  • chastity1337chastity1337 Member Posts: 1,608 Arc User
    edited December 2017
    Each run through CCA (Crystaline Catastrophe Advanced) will get you a package containing one Radiogenic Particle and 5x Rubidium, plus some trash. With the added bonus that CCA is actually FUN :)

    You can also pick up ~100 Fleet Marks and then ~100 Nukara Marks on your first two runs of the day, (assuming you haven't already collected the daily bonus elsewhere), and then ~50 of one or the either on your 3rd and subsequent runs of the day, if you're hammering it that hard.

    Just remember that Energy weapons do about 5% of their usual damage against the Crystal Entity. You need to pack torpedoes and exotic damage. Gravity Well works wonderfully against the clustered enemies.
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  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    for blues run a lot of queues. volume will defeat the rng
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  • tacticalrooktacticalrook Member Posts: 810 Arc User
    pryor#5476 wrote: »
    > @coldnapalm said:
    > Why yes, you can indeed buy them with zen. There are zen packs that have VR mats in it...and they even have some tech point and rarity multiplier items as well. So you can throw zen at it if you want. Although I would wait until a R&D promo so you can have a chance to win the big ship prize and sell for billion+ EC...and get some lobi for some nice stuff from there.
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    > Or you can do advanced and elite queues...but that maybe beyond your abilities.
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    > Or you can just do admiralties and doffs.
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    > But since you have way more money than sense...please throw money at it. It lets me play this game for super cheap...so thanks.

    If you think about it, to mine dilithium, is silly if you have money and a regular job to replace it living in the USA, in the time it takes mining dilithium, I can earn money faster in the real world than in the game by 100x, so for me to chase dilithium in the game is silly from my perspective, tell me how long it takes you to get 8000 dilithium, then tell me how much you make perspective hour............ unless you are living in some back ward **** 3rd world country, it's better to just buy ZEN and trade it for dilithium, if lock boxes gave R&D materials instead of silly lobi crystal, I would be spending a lot on them. But I see the R&D packs you can buy for ZEN, I'll try them out.

    I hear this a lot from folks who only know terrible-paying grinds and assume everyone else is also getting paid the same amount of dil per unit of grind time.

    The reality is a good number of folks are getting paid far more space cash than these types of folks believe is possible per unit of grind time. Worse, they tend to be so hostile to this revelation, it's best for everyone to not even try to correct their misunderstanding.
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  • dumas13dumas13 Member Posts: 281 Arc User
    Omega components can only be found/crafted during the Anniversary event every February. You go to specific locations to scan Omega particles and obtain Omega traces (and occasionally larger bits when you score well or get lucky).
  • tacticalrooktacticalrook Member Posts: 810 Arc User
    dumas13 wrote: »
    Omega components can only be found/crafted during the Anniversary event every February. You go to specific locations to scan Omega particles and obtain Omega traces (and occasionally larger bits when you score well or get lucky).

    They can be crafted year round.
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  • dumas13dumas13 Member Posts: 281 Arc User
    dumas13 wrote: »
    Omega components can only be found/crafted during the Anniversary event every February. You go to specific locations to scan Omega particles and obtain Omega traces (and occasionally larger bits when you score well or get lucky).

    They can be crafted year round.

    Ok, I phrased that badly. The scanning can only be done during the event, which greatly restricts the supply. Crafting doesn't matter much when you have no materials to craft with.
  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,918 Arc User
    edited December 2017
    Exactly. Omega particles can only be gotten for free when you do the Omega scanning game during the Anniversary event. Then you craft the larger particles until you get the ones you need for the Omega upgrade. It takes time and patience to do it that way. Or if you're a virtual billionaire simply buy the particles you need and craft the upgrades. The upgrades can only be crafted, not traded, as they're bind to account on pickup.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    edited December 2017
    pryor#5476 wrote: »

    If you think about it, to mine dilithium, is silly if you have money and a regular job to replace it living in the USA, in the time it takes mining dilithium, I can earn money faster in the real world than in the game by 100x, so for me to chase dilithium in the game is silly from my perspective, tell me how long it takes you to get 8000 dilithium, then tell me how much you make perspective hour............ unless you are living in some back ward **** 3rd world country, it's better to just buy ZEN and trade it for dilithium, if lock boxes gave R&D materials instead of silly lobi crystal, I would be spending a lot on them. But I see the R&D packs you can buy for ZEN, I'll try them out.

    No matter how many times I hear this argument, it never fails to get any less ridiculous.

    Sure, it's phrased differently from time to time, but the bottom line argument is the same. You compare the rate at which you earn Dilithium in game and put an hourly value on that as if you were being paid to do a job. Then you compare that rate to the rate of the average minimum wage job and use the obviously favorable comparison to cite your point that it's smarter and a more efficient use of time to just 'throw money at the game.' You thing blow up the comparison to a ridiculous level and use the incredibly lop sided results as a justification of your flawed argument.

    This tactic is called "Reductio ad absurdum" or 'reduction to absurdity.' You're comparing money made at a job to rate earned in a video game.. which is supposed to provide entertainment. You're comparing a job to a recreational activity, two things that do not compare 1:1 and using this as the basis for your argument.

    No one ever said you should just slave away in the Dilithum Mines, in fact.. most people know that's probably the single most inefficient and most importantly.. boring method that STO offers for earning Dilithium. People who know earn Dilithium through normal game play. They find the game play that they enjoy, the game play that's fun and they play it. That's the point of this entire game you block head, to play and have fun. You earn Dilithum while you're playing and you use that Dilithium to get the things you want. It's earned through normal game play.. through things you are supposed to find fun.

    What you're doing is paying money to NOT play this game. What Napalm suggested is a way to make your game time also benefit you in a profitable way when it comes to obtaining gear. You countered with the ridiculous argument that it's better to just sit back and pay money to not have to play the game just so you can get items used.. to play the game.

    Your argument is beyond ridiculous and entirely build on a B.S. comparison between two things that do not compare. You then use that as a basis to stretch your argument to ridiculous extremes and use it to 'prove your point.'

    Seriously.. just stop asking questions if this is how you're going to continue to respond to the answers and good advice you're given. You're embarrassing yourself.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    pryor#5476 wrote: »
    This is my goal, to build a GOD ship that allows me to role into a map and ..... pew, pew, pew...... wipe out an entire Fleet of enemies with ezzzz, i now got an xBox 360 controler that allows me to set macros, the push of 1 button lays down exotic damage & brings my weapons up to max power, one to repair & remodulate shields and repair hull.

    I been playing this game for only a few months, i got the Tactical KDF Miricle Worker ship equiped with almost all Epic MK14 gear.......... so yes...... to build all that would take a long time considering you need dilithium.

    Now if there was a way i could build upgrade packs that dont need Dilithium, such as an upgrade pack that i could craft and add the needed Dilithium to it, those would sell very well on the exchange, now im selling MK14 space weapons on the exchange at a fair price of about just under 4mil EC, and coming soon....... Epic [ACC] [DMG] x3 MK14 Beams & Cannons for under 7mil EC

    There is a popular misconception that the key to DPS in this game is just picking the right gear. That assertion is completely false, it's a craft that takes time to learn and even longer to perfect.

    By just paying your way through and avoiding actually playing content and learning how to use your abilities, you're going to end up with a very expensive ship that you simply don't know how to play properly.
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  • tacticalrooktacticalrook Member Posts: 810 Arc User
    There is a popular misconception that the key to DPS in this game is just picking the right gear.

    With the way so many folks seem discouraged and hostile toward DPS, only to go on and on about "pay to win" gear, I can't rule out the possibility they in fact desperately want high DPS to be the direct result of owning expensive things, rather than being the result of an understanding of game mechanics.

    Projection is a powerful thing.

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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    pryor#5476 wrote: »

    Now just playing for only a few months, i could probably kick you aass in a 1 vs 1 match.......... so having said that........ whats a good day & time for you ...... we can meet at Drozana Station by the Mail kiosk......

    So is this the equivalent of meeting me by the monkey bars after school? Is that what you're trying to do here?

    I'm not a PvP player, I have actually never played PvP in this game. Unlike you, I'm not just going to claim I'm good at it when I have never actually done it. If we were to team for PvE content though and parse it, I would absolutely eat you alive. Not that I'm that good, you're just so bad.

    Honestly, I have been here long enough and played with enough people around here that I have nothing to prove to you. I could out DPS you by triple and you still wouldn't learn. Just keep throwing your wallet at the screen superstar.. you'll get there eventually.
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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,918 Arc User
    Nobody has anything to prove to anybody in this game. I too am not a PvPer and never will be. For the simple reason that I would likely suck at it and being blown to bits all the time by the veteran PvPers is not something I would find very fun.

    But seaofsorrows is right. He would probably eat you alive in PvE. Especially if you've only been playing a few months and are only throwing your money into the game to get expensive trinkets that will do you no good if you don't know how to use them.
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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,918 Arc User
    Yeah....no. But feel free to challenge any PvPer you like. I'll bet they'll eat you alive real quick.

    Like I told the other guy who turned his nose up at what I do, I go into the game to have fun, not fight other players. Sometimes not even to run missions. I do what I feel like doing and don't bother anyone else. Tease me all you like about it, won't bother me none cause the opinions of people I don't know don't matter.
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    Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
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