One can argue that shields are simply projecting OVER the ship material, and not fundamentally changing the material itself. Whereas changing a weapon color would, in theory, be changing the weapon itself as well.
no just changing the weapons frequency... In warframe you can customize the appearance of your weapons including the energy colour
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Those, however, are distinct weapon types. Mirror universe, Isolytic, etc. The baseline weapons are the same color.
And?!? You are saying we can't have a purple phaser because ALL phasers should be orange according to CBS. Well CBS allowed for green phasers already so that theory is completely debunked. Like you are wrong. Deal with it.
Yout totally missed the point. The key point is that you can't have a purple PHASER, or an Orange quantum phaser. X is X, Y is Y, et al.
> @soullessraptor said: > coldnapalm wrote: » > > soullessraptor wrote: » > > Those, however, are distinct weapon types. Mirror universe, Isolytic, etc. The baseline weapons are the same color. > > > > > And?!? You are saying we can't have a purple phaser because ALL phasers should be orange according to CBS. Well CBS allowed for green phasers already so that theory is completely debunked. Like you are wrong. Deal with it. > > > > > Yout totally missed the point. The key point is that you can't have a purple PHASER, or an Orange quantum phaser. X is X, Y is Y, et al.
The problem here is that you're wrong. Source: 23c. weapons. Retrofit Phaser Twin and Standard Beam Arrays are blue, and Retrofit Plasma/Disruptor look absolutely nothing like present-day versions.
They can be the same mark, quality, have the same modifiers and exactly the same stats, but one phaser would be orange and the other blue.
So yes, you actually can have differently coloured weapons, even if they are the same type.
Again, the key point is that each of those are counted as distinct weapons. 23rd Century, Retrofits, etc. I'm saying that X is X (23rd Cent Phaser is blue) and Y is Y (25c is Orange)
> @soullessraptor said: > Again, the key point is that each of those are counted as distinct weapons. 23rd Century, Retrofits, etc. I'm saying that X is X (23rd Cent Phaser is blue) and Y is Y (25c is Orange)
But they aren't. There's always been a command buried in the game to allow players to change their beam colours to their liking. Any colour on the hex spectrum could be used before the devs disabled the feature. X could be Y, and Y could be Z.
Those, however, are distinct weapon types. Mirror universe, Isolytic, etc. The baseline weapons are the same color.
And?!? You are saying we can't have a purple phaser because ALL phasers should be orange according to CBS. Well CBS allowed for green phasers already so that theory is completely debunked. Like you are wrong. Deal with it.
Yout totally missed the point. The key point is that you can't have a purple PHASER, or an Orange quantum phaser. X is X, Y is Y, et al.
you obviously haven't watched the TNG battle of wolf 359 episode (Best of both worlds part 1 and 2) , the phasers changed colour every time the weapons frequency changed, also we already have energy weapons in a variety of colours already including phasers
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I don't understand why people are so vehemently against having changeable beam/cannon colours.
Too many potential problems. One, it could be abused for PvP purposes (Imagine getting shot by invisible weapons). Two, it could become a very, VERY big source of lag, if the game is having to process dozens of different colors at once, rather than drawing on prefabs.
I don't understand why people are so vehemently against having changeable beam/cannon colours.
Because it removes a diversity element from the actual weapons. No point getting pink disruptors, etc if you can just get regular ones and recolor them.
The various weapons are already far too identical as it is. What you're packing should matter.
I don't understand why people are so vehemently against having changeable beam/cannon colours.
Too many potential problems. One, it could be abused for PvP purposes (Imagine getting shot by invisible weapons). Two, it could become a very, VERY big source of lag, if the game is having to process dozens of different colors at once, rather than drawing on prefabs.
So...what you are saying is that something that a lot of the PvE community wants should be denied because of PvP. K.
So are you seriously still curious as to why the PvE people are saying that PvP needs to completely die yet or are you still that clueless?
As for lag issues...yeah...that one is valid. It SHOULD be a none issue...but with this dev team...yeah....
The issue isn't with the devteam. The main issue is server capacity and upkeep costs.
Now, if PWE can pull more funding for enhancing their servers, then it could POSSIBLY be done. But that would take time and money to get the servers up to snuff.
As to the PvP issue, I recognize that it's not a huge factor, but it IS a factor. And while it's not hugely popular, why would you alienate a portion of the playerbase by pulling it?
I don't understand why people are so vehemently against having changeable beam/cannon colours.
Because it removes a diversity element from the actual weapons. No point getting pink disruptors, etc if you can just get regular ones and recolor them.
The various weapons are already far too identical as it is. What you're packing should matter.
I don't understand why people are so vehemently against having changeable beam/cannon colours.
Too many potential problems. One, it could be abused for PvP purposes (Imagine getting shot by invisible weapons). Two, it could become a very, VERY big source of lag, if the game is having to process dozens of different colors at once, rather than drawing on prefabs.
So...what you are saying is that something that a lot of the PvE community wants should be denied because of PvP. K.
So are you seriously still curious as to why the PvE people are saying that PvP needs to completely die yet or are you still that clueless?
As for lag issues...yeah...that one is valid. It SHOULD be a none issue...but with this dev team...yeah....
The issue isn't with the devteam. The main issue is server capacity and upkeep costs.
Now, if PWE can pull more funding for enhancing their servers, then it could POSSIBLY be done. But that would take time and money to get the servers up to snuff.
As to the PvP issue, I recognize that it's not a huge factor, but it IS a factor. And while it's not hugely popular, why would you alienate a portion of the playerbase by pulling it?
PvP is infinitely minor compared to PvE, the game would benefit from the removal of PvP
Draal - FED, Saurian, LV60 - TAC
Mirak - FED 23c, Vulkan, LV60 - TAC
Ascaran Bloodclaw - KDF, Gorn, Lv18 - TAC
Melchiah - KDF, Gorn, LV60 - TAC
Ne'roon - KDF,Lethian, L60, TAC
Turel - ROM-KDF, Reman, 30, TAC
Elric - ROM-Fed, Romulan, L60, TAC
Richtor Belmont - FED 23c, Human,LV20, SCI
G'Kar - KDF, Gorn, L10
USS Sharlin NCC79713 B (part of sheridans access code) - T6, Hestia Class Advanced Escort
USS Babylon IV - T6 Krenim Science Vessel
USS Brakiri - T6 Elachi Escort
"I am Grey. I stand between the candle and the star."
"We are Grey. We stand between the darkness and the light."
I don't understand why people are so vehemently against having changeable beam/cannon colours.
Too many potential problems. One, it could be abused for PvP purposes (Imagine getting shot by invisible weapons). Two, it could become a very, VERY big source of lag, if the game is having to process dozens of different colors at once, rather than drawing on prefabs.
So...what you are saying is that something that a lot of the PvE community wants should be denied because of PvP. K.
So are you seriously still curious as to why the PvE people are saying that PvP needs to completely die yet or are you still that clueless?
As for lag issues...yeah...that one is valid. It SHOULD be a none issue...but with this dev team...yeah....
The issue isn't with the devteam. The main issue is server capacity and upkeep costs.
Now, if PWE can pull more funding for enhancing their servers, then it could POSSIBLY be done. But that would take time and money to get the servers up to snuff.
As to the PvP issue, I recognize that it's not a huge factor, but it IS a factor. And while it's not hugely popular, why would you alienate a portion of the playerbase by pulling it?
PvP is infinitely minor compared to PvE, the game would benefit from the removal of PvP
Or you could just leave it in, and accept that, for the time being, there's not an option to change the colors of weapons.
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no just changing the weapons frequency... In warframe you can customize the appearance of your weapons including the energy colour
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Yout totally missed the point. The key point is that you can't have a purple PHASER, or an Orange quantum phaser. X is X, Y is Y, et al.
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> And?!? You are saying we can't have a purple phaser because ALL phasers should be orange according to CBS. Well CBS allowed for green phasers already so that theory is completely debunked. Like you are wrong. Deal with it.
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> Yout totally missed the point. The key point is that you can't have a purple PHASER, or an Orange quantum phaser. X is X, Y is Y, et al.
The problem here is that you're wrong. Source: 23c. weapons. Retrofit Phaser Twin and Standard Beam Arrays are blue, and Retrofit Plasma/Disruptor look absolutely nothing like present-day versions.
They can be the same mark, quality, have the same modifiers and exactly the same stats, but one phaser would be orange and the other blue.
So yes, you actually can have differently coloured weapons, even if they are the same type.
> Again, the key point is that each of those are counted as distinct weapons. 23rd Century, Retrofits, etc. I'm saying that X is X (23rd Cent Phaser is blue) and Y is Y (25c is Orange)
But they aren't. There's always been a command buried in the game to allow players to change their beam colours to their liking. Any colour on the hex spectrum could be used before the devs disabled the feature.
X could be Y, and Y could be Z.
That could work....but that'd be pretty tricky to implement, and wouldn't please a lot of the 'base.
you obviously haven't watched the TNG battle of wolf 359 episode (Best of both worlds part 1 and 2) , the phasers changed colour every time the weapons frequency changed, also we already have energy weapons in a variety of colours already including phasers
phasers - red, blue, light blue, green, orange
polaron - purple, dark purple, pink, cyan, yellow
plasma - green, yellow, orange, cyan
disruptor - green, yellow, orange, blue
Tetryon - white, blue
antiproton - red, yellow, gold, purple, rainbow
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Too many potential problems. One, it could be abused for PvP purposes (Imagine getting shot by invisible weapons). Two, it could become a very, VERY big source of lag, if the game is having to process dozens of different colors at once, rather than drawing on prefabs.
The various weapons are already far too identical as it is. What you're packing should matter.
The issue isn't with the devteam. The main issue is server capacity and upkeep costs.
Now, if PWE can pull more funding for enhancing their servers, then it could POSSIBLY be done. But that would take time and money to get the servers up to snuff.
As to the PvP issue, I recognize that it's not a huge factor, but it IS a factor. And while it's not hugely popular, why would you alienate a portion of the playerbase by pulling it?
Also, this. This is a very, very valid point.
PvP is infinitely minor compared to PvE, the game would benefit from the removal of PvP
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Or you could just leave it in, and accept that, for the time being, there's not an option to change the colors of weapons.