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Non T6 C Store ships question

Hello all. I took some time off from the game and had some questions regarding the Non T6 c-store ships. Basically years ago I purchased the Gladius, Thunderchild, and several others all prior to the release of T6 Ships.....so are these basically useless now? Kinda feel dumb that I bought these back in the day and there is no "conversion" for them aside from being skins now. Is there any actually use for lower tier c store ships anymore? Am I correct in understanding the ship releases now will basically be all T6 going forward?

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  • atharun18999atharun18999 Member Posts: 66 Arc User
    edited June 2017
    And another thing, I know for a fact that I purchased the Gladius but it won't let me reclaim it in the shipyard without buying it again. Not trying to be dumb but this is frustrating
  • jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    They can still be used to play the game. On my secondary free to play only account I can still use the free T5 ships I selected at level 40 to play the game. Naturally, they will not be as good as T5 C-Store ships, but they get the job done.

    If you really like those ships, then you can purchase Ship Upgrade Tokens for 700 Zen each or a 4-pack for 2,000 Zen. Once a T5 C-Store ship has been upgraded to T5u, then the T5u variant will be available to all characters on your account as long as they are in the same faction. The basic difference between T5u and T6 ships is the lack of a Ship Mastery trait in T5u ships and they will also not have any Specialization Boff stations (Command, Intelligence, Pilot, Temporal) which can allow for other Boff abilities.

    With the release of Delta Rising back in October 2014, all new C-Store ships have been T6 ships.
  • atharun18999atharun18999 Member Posts: 66 Arc User
    edited June 2017
    The problem is these are not even T5 ships thus making them useless in reality. It's like the old ships that were sold have zero residual value for those who bought them except for alts
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,582 Community Moderator
    They aren't useless. In fact, the Thunderchild, a member of the Akira family, unlocks Thunderchild parts for the T5 and T6 Akira variants. Thus you can be flying an Armitage or Alita class, and look like the Thunderchild.

    Also... if you make another Fed, You can skip getting the free level up ship and jump straight into the C-Store ship at that tier, which is slightly better than the stock ships.

    And like someone mentioned earlier, Admiralty ship cards.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
  • ironmakoironmako Member Posts: 770 Arc User
    Some ships give you consoles that you can slot into other ships, or even weapons which you can't get on the exchange, like the quad cannons
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,582 Community Moderator
    ironmako wrote: »
    Some ships give you consoles that you can slot into other ships, or even weapons which you can't get on the exchange, like the quad cannons

    And Wide Angle Quantum Torpedo. Frickin' AWESOME torp for a cruiser or a shuttle with the 180 degree arc.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    edited June 2017
    And another thing, I know for a fact that I purchased the Gladius but it won't let me reclaim it in the shipyard without buying it again. Not trying to be dumb but this is frustrating

    If you got a ship using the token from the Admiral upon your promotions; they don't count as reclaimable. I have a Defiant like that.

    T5 ships are still fine, you can spend a bit and make them T5-Upgrade if you want an extra console slot and a bit of HP/shields. For T4 you start losing some weapon hardpoints (vs T5) and that could hurt a bit in the dps department.

    If you are lacking a T5, I would suggest buying a Rare quality ship off the Exchange. They start at 2-3M. Most are Mirror Universe versions, but there are some alien ships out there too.

    But honestly, if you got the cash (and desire to spend it on STO); find one of the T6 three ship bundles. They are 2/3 the price of 3 separate ships. The Temporal bundle is arguable the best one. Ships can be used by all factions and are some of the strongest C-store ships out there atm. And that bundle gives you a cruiser, sci-ship and escort/raider to cover all your pew-pew'ing variety desires. And as always... waiting for a C-store sale will save you 15-20%.

    Sometimes I think I play STO just to have something to complain about on the forums.
  • saber1973asaber1973a Member Posts: 1,225 Arc User
    Gladius is T2 ship, Thunderchild is a T3... they are good ships to level up new toons (though you write that you got problems with reclaiming the Gladius).
    Besides the Thuderchild has Point-Defence Console, which can be moved to any other ship - i actually like put it even on my T6 ships - example: right now i look at it on my T6 Caitan Shikaris Escort.
    And of course they are always usefull for geting admirality cards...
    Also the STO sometimes adds low tier ships - last time with the release of Temporal Agent Pack, but the main focus of new "constructions" is T6 ships, and it is alright - the leveling up of character in STO is very fast and easy...
  • goodscotchgoodscotch Member Posts: 1,680 Arc User
    Some T5 ships can be upgraded to a T5-U status which is supposed to be on par with T6. You need an upgrade token in order to do it. Worth a try. I had several good T5 ships that got better after the upgrade. Welcome back and good luck!
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  • boachevboachev Member Posts: 131 Arc User
    T5 are absolutely fine at, well, any level. T6 are great, but the actual difference between the two is pretty negligible.

    That said, as others have pointed out some of those C-Store ships aren't even T5. Even so... nothing wrong with that, though they won't be end-game ships by any stretch. However, all future characters (faction allowing) will have access to those ships, virtually all C-Store ships come with consoles that can be applied to other vessels, and for many the ship model is now unlocked and can be applied to similar vessels of a higher tier.

    For example: I own the T3 Valdore warbird for my Romulans. While that T3 isn't particularly viable for my max level Romulan, I can also stick its (legitimately amazing) console in similar ships (Valdores, Mogais, and Morrigus). But there's more! I [i]also[/i] own the T6 Morrigu, which means I can make my Morrigu appear 100% identical to a Valdore, effectively allowing me to fly a snazzy Valdore class at end-game.

    Heck, going further with it: I have a T5 Mirror Universe Mogai, which I used for a couple months as a Mirror Universe Valdore. With all of those similar ships, my Valdore, my Morrigu, my Mirror Mogai, I can mix and match all of their parts/textures/etc.

    Thunderchild is no different: if you one day get a T5 or T6 Heavy Escort Carrier (yes, Oslos/Thunderchilds/Akiras get hangar bays) or Fleet Heavy Escort Carrier, then you could happily make that ship a Thunderchild class since you own it.


    TLDR; you've got nothing to regret, you can still get plenty of mileage out of those old purchases.
  • boachevboachev Member Posts: 131 Arc User
    > @dracounguis said:
    > atharun18999 wrote: »
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    > If you are lacking a T5, I would suggest buying a Rare quality ship off the Exchange. They start at 2-3M. Most are Mirror Universe versions, but there are some alien ships out there too.

    Oh, and that. My Romulan flew that T5 Mirror Mogai because he didn't have a T5 and I wasn't fond of the free options available to him.

    2-3m, honestly pretty cheap. If you can't afford it, OP, shoot me a PM and I'll help hook you up.
  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,668 Arc User
    I seen T5u's hold their own against, and with, the T6's.
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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,916 Arc User
    I have several T5/T5-U ships that I really like. They're not useless, they just have no specialty seating/ship trait.

    But they're still usable to someone who hardly ever plays higher than normal difficulty. Like me.
    Now a LTS and loving it.
    Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
    I have come to the conclusion that I have a memory like Etch-A-Sketch. I shake my head and forget everything. :D
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  • odinforever20000odinforever20000 Member Posts: 1,849 Arc User
    echatty wrote: »
    I have several T5/T5-U ships that I really like. They're not useless, they just have no specialty seating/ship trait.

    But they're still usable to someone who hardly ever plays higher than normal difficulty. Like me.

    Id argue they are still useful even at higher difficulties :smile: Especially sci ships (but they do take some time to get used to)

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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,916 Arc User
    I have been venturing into Adv. difficulty a few times. Though combat is a small part of my game experience. I prefer to just get it out of the way storywise.

    That's why I keep it on Normal most of the time. Just not interested in 'testing' myself. Japori on Elite was enough.

    Yeah, yeah, here come the giggles. Go ahead, I have a thick skin.
    Now a LTS and loving it.
    Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
    I have come to the conclusion that I have a memory like Etch-A-Sketch. I shake my head and forget everything. :D
  • anodynesanodynes Member Posts: 1,999 Arc User
    Hello all. I took some time off from the game and had some questions regarding the Non T6 c-store ships. Basically years ago I purchased the Gladius, Thunderchild, and several others all prior to the release of T6 Ships.....so are these basically useless now? Kinda feel dumb that I bought these back in the day and there is no "conversion" for them aside from being skins now. Is there any actually use for lower tier c store ships anymore? Am I correct in understanding the ship releases now will basically be all T6 going forward?

    I fail to see how the Gladius or Thunderchild, or any Tier 1-3 ship, at the least, was significantly more useful when you bought it, even if that was as soon as they were released. Tier 5s already existed, so they were nearly as far off from endgame use then as they are now.
    This is an MMO, not a Star Trek episode simulator. That would make for a terrible game.
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