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shadowkoshshadowkosh Member Posts: 1,688 Arc User
What is going on with these disconnects? I know it isn't my internet because I called them and they ran test and everything is good everything on my computer is good. Ever since the April 25 patch this game is unplayable. Can't play a STF because I get dropped if I am lucky I get about 15 minutes of play before I get dropped.

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  • bloodyrizbloodyriz Member Posts: 1,756 Arc User
    Yeah it's not "the server" because lots of us are not having issues.​​
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  • angelitsa#6499 angelitsa Member Posts: 1 New User
    I have not had any issues like this. Hope you get it figured out and are able to play again.
  • duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,980 Arc User
    Here's another resource for the OP: how to assess and report networking problems.

    https://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline#/discussion/1162154/pc-network-and-other-technical-issues-read-this-first-before-posting

    Basically, there's a lot that can go wrong between your connection and the Cryptic servers. Shouting won't find out why you can't play STO, you need to run a few tests to verify where your problem is happening. You might find that it's a router or your ISP that's having issues. So, work through the problem thoroughly. That's the only sure way of finding a way back to the game.
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  • shadowkoshshadowkosh Member Posts: 1,688 Arc User
    on line 14 I get this

    14 * * * Request timed out.
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  • malikiusmalikius Member Posts: 32 Arc User
    My game is also locking up as well. "The more they advance the easier it is to clog the drain". Scotty! Does anybody know why this is happening. I have a ticket in with CS and they are stumped too. I even turned off my Nortons temp.
  • jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    Try to flush the DNS cache. It may contain some outdated internet node pathways that is causing problems with your connection.

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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    I noticed from another Thread that you are getting crash to the desktops also in the Voth Ground Battlezone. Try doing a Force Verify on your game files.
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  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    OP, sometimes there's nothing you can do. If you can identify that the problem exists between your non-malfunctioning internet provider and Cryptic's non-malfunctioning server, then you are in the same boat that others have been in at one time or another. Back when cogent issues were RAMPANT, I experienced constant rubber banding and disconnects and discovered that cogent was in fact the issue in my case.

    Just for run, I ran a traceroute right now and connected to the server with no problem. This along with actually loading into the game with zero problems confirms for me that this is yet another isolated issue in which a player is the victim of a company between yourself and cryptic.
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  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,461 Arc User
    I play this game on a laptop, from the UK direct to the main server and not a proxy connection, and it's very, very rare for me to be disconnected. It is NOT Cryptic's server.

    As some have already said, there are a dozen or so connections this game goes through and any one of those hops could be the issue. Generally it's your ISP at fault because of bandwidth limitations caused because the US doesn't have 'net neutrality' and companies that pay more get priority bandwidth. There's also the conditions of the line to take into account along that route as well as localised weather. The list goes on.
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  • duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,980 Arc User
    edited May 2017
    shadowkosh wrote: »
    did it and it didn't work

    If you're getting a timeout at "line 14" then all we can really say that it's downstream the network. How close it is to cryptic though we can't say because the number of lines varies based on the number of connections. It might be their server, their ISP, or the connection between another ISP and Cryptic's ISP. You need to provide more specific detail (with any omissions you feel necessary to secure your privacy. Removing your own IP address is the only thing to worry about there.)

    You may also want to continue this discussion here, it's the network support forum.
    https://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline/#/categories/c401

    Right now you're talking with other forum users. We may know that your connection isn't good but that's because we browse this forum. Devs (typically) don't, when they're looking for problems they look to the specifically designated sections of the website. That cuts out the general chatter of the STO community (which can drown out said problems).
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  • shadowkoshshadowkosh Member Posts: 1,688 Arc User
    valoreah wrote: »
    There is something wrong with your computer.

    is that all you can say it is not our computers it is on there end
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  • shadowwraith#9264 shadowwraith Member Posts: 379 Arc User
    valoreah wrote: »
    shadowkosh wrote: »
    is that all you can say it is not our computers it is on there end

    Were it on Cryptic's end, everyone would be impacted. Everyone is not, therefore there is something wrong with your computer. Yes, I understand that's not the answer you want to hear, but it is the truth.

    if the problem is a timeout in the connection route then it's not the OP's computer that's the problem.
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  • bejaymacbejaymac Member Posts: 448 Arc User
    A time out in the middle of the trace I'd worry about, but at the start or the end it's more likely the server is set to refuse ping requests, which shows as a time out.
  • duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,980 Arc User
    edited May 2017
    valoreah wrote: »
    shadowkosh wrote: »
    is that all you can say it is not our computers it is on there end

    Were it on Cryptic's end, everyone would be impacted. Everyone is not, therefore there is something wrong with your computer. Yes, I understand that's not the answer you want to hear, but it is the truth.

    Non-user networking problems don't have to be universal. They can be regional too, depending on events/problems occurring on the various networks involved in connecting players to STO. For example: the aforementioned Cogent issues (they only affected a subset of US players). That's why it's recommended that users run tracert and pathping tests to collect data on where connection problems are in fact occurring.

    In this case, it does not appear to be user-side. Line 14 is typically pretty far along the networks (it might be Cryptic or possibly their ISP), but the OP needs to provide more complete information for further investigation.
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    shadowkosh wrote: »
    valoreah wrote: »
    There is something wrong with your computer.

    is that all you can say it is not our computers it is on there end

    Sorry. You are wrong.

    We have already established that it is not on their end, since others, including me, play without disconnects... So it can not be their server.

    Valoreah is also likely wrong (and you know this Valoreah... I know you know)...

    I am going to describe to you, what is usually the problem, in metaphors:
    Imagine, you are driving a car from home to work.
    You take the usual route, and usually there are no delays, because the road is just fine... You turn right, turn left, drive straight and eventually, you arrive at your destination, with no delay... Right?

    Now, one morning, you leave your driveway... Things go fine, until suddenly... the road is damaged (the asphalt is broken) and being repaired.
    Now naturally, this work causes some delays... There is a traffic jam, and you get delayed... You arrive 10 minutes late at work.

    Now basically, the same is most likely happening here.

    Somewhere along the path, based on what you are saying, your "road" is damaged, and your signal gets delayed or even stopped completely. Hence like with the drive to work, would mean that you arrive late at the meeting.

    The result is, that you have to join the meeting after it has started (this would be experienced as rubberbanding), or that you are excluded from the meeting / the meeting was canceled (experienced as disconnects).

    So let me ask you: With the metaphor above, do you blame your job, or the damage to the road that you were late..? (if you blame your job, you need to get your head examined).

    Now, Cryptic can't do much about it for you, as they don't control the route you are taking to their servers, however, they DO provide you with possible alternative routes (proxies).
    You can chose between two different ones: A US Proxy and a EU one... Wich one you should chose depends entirely on where in the world you are.

    There is no guarantee that it will fix (as you risk potentially still ending up on the damaged road... Again, Cryptic has no control over the route the internet sends you towards your destination), but there is a chance.

    As others have already said, you need to provide more info... Your Tracert values would be a good start.
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  • wylonuswylonus Member Posts: 471 Arc User
    check local IP and weather near your home area.
    someplaces are saturated by heavy rains and wi-fi towers often get disrupted.
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