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Do you still use 4/3 weapon escorts?
djf021
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That's a bit rhetorical, because I'm sure there are plenty of you out there. I used to fly most of them. The fleet patrol escort was my favorite, then the tempest and fleet tempest. Then it was the Phantom. But since I discovered the pilot escorts and most recently the NX refit and their 5/2 weapon layout, I've had a hard time justifying returning to 4/3. All weapons cost the same amount of energy (with a few exceptions under certain situations) so why would I go give up a dual heavy cannon for a turret?
I thought of this as I read the stats of the new escorts today. They look like fine ships, but I have trouble wanting to go from 4/3 to 5/2.
Anyone else feel this way, or am I crazy?
I thought of this as I read the stats of the new escorts today. They look like fine ships, but I have trouble wanting to go from 4/3 to 5/2.
Anyone else feel this way, or am I crazy?
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I have a rom in a 4:3 Morrigu, which is like an overgrown BoP, I'd prefer that to be 5:2.
More realistically you'd be swapping that dual heavy cannon with a heavy weapon and gaining a turret (5/2 -> 1/4/3). As to if it's worth it or not, we'd have to see some of the stats for these heavy weapons.
EDIT: This is in context of many 4/3 ships soon to gain a heavy weapons slot. As is I would have to go with 5/2 being better than 4/3 for escorts. But personally I'm still flying the 4/3 lifer ship on many characters.
And I always have the Arbiter if I wanted to play a ship with five forward weapons.
Yep, because I do not have any 5/2 ships.
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I never really liked most of the Patrol Escort's looks but that one isn't bad at all.
I see no real difference for beams, but in a 'front facing' build using Cannons or DBB's 5/2 is king.
On fed escorts i usually use beams anyway cause I think 90% of them look stupid when firing dual cannons, they have typical wide saucers but the cannon weapons almost always fire from the very front tip of the ship anyway. If dual cannons fired from the sides of the saucer I might be able to stomach it, but as it is imho the only fed ships that actually look ok with cannons are the defiant (which I've always thought was a hideous design anyway) and the pilot escorts.
I don't care how many weapon on front or back is, so long as it works good, I'll take it.
Which I fly basically like I do cruisers as have yet to master dual cannons, I just don't have the dexterity.
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Same here. And I pick beams (or cannons) by which energy type fits the theme of the ship and captain.
The heavy weapons slot concept brings up a point though. They said the heavy weapons will not be affected by such things as beam overload (and presumably FAW), torpedo HY, probably CRF AND CSV... But what about the [Beam] and [Cannon] consoles? Will neither of these affect the heavy weapons? Or will they have different types that perhaps different consoles will boost?
Easy use an eng console that boost turn rate and it really doesn't matter. I fly pilot escorts and for the most part the pilot manuvers are a gimmick.
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In fact my all-time favorite STO ship I use on my lead space toon flies one. The JHSS. Like @seaofsorrows and @ussvaliant#6064 I got my highest DPS out of that instead of modern escorts with 5/2 ports and pilot maneuvers.
No matter the arrangement of the weapons the main downside of escorts compered to cruiser/dreads has been the lack of 8th gun port and a massive setback when it comes to device slots. No cruiser commands that reduce weapon power cost also factor in. All are a high price to pay for minor benefits of agility depending on what you do.
Looks like Cryptic is out to correct this a bit. Rest assured everybody that leech and embassy consoles have been nerfed to open up slots for the next generation of consoles that augment our new little gimmicks.
Won’t take long until the scrubs around here will begin to hate escorts with rail guns and the escort-online-scrub-cycle is finally complete after 4 years.
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Especially the Faeht.
Gravwell -> pep-torp spread -> decloak -> plasma lance + intel debuff -> CSV.
umm...the Bug isn't 5:2, its totally 4:3..but it is still a great ship
just imagine how much win the Bug would be if it had pilot maneuvers
the Bug and the Defiant are ships that should have gotten pilot maneuvers
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I also just got the Qin Flight Deck Raptor yesterday, and I am enjoying it.
I have the Mat'Ha Raptor though, and it's 5/2 And a Beast.
I really think they should re-tool the game, and make all or most escorts 5/2 and change science to 4:3
So yeah, I use 4:3s