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Gorn heavy fighters

duphy101duphy101 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Why the ship restriction on these? would it really affect the balance of the game if the KDF could put them on the flight deck raptor.. or another ship that has a hanger bay?
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  • odinforever20000odinforever20000 Member Posts: 1,849 Arc User
    They do that with alot of fighters..

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  • duphy101duphy101 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    odinforever20000 wrote: »
    They do that with alot of fighters..

    yeah, i have noticed this.. not really caring for that either.. but i can just the Jem'Hadar fighters on any ship i want


  • szimszim Member Posts: 2,503 Arc User
    duphy101 wrote: »
    Why the ship restriction on these? would it really affect the balance of the game if the KDF could put them on the flight deck raptor.. or another ship that has a hanger bay?

    No it wouldn't. But we are supposed to buy elite versions of ship specific fighters and frigates every time a new ship is being released.
  • asuran14asuran14 Member Posts: 2,335 Arc User
    It would be nice to have the option to use any of the ships, minus frigates, in the hanger of our ships so that if you are a gorn or orion you could have your race specific fighter/shuttle in it. It would be nice to have the ability to get hanger-pets that use other enrgy/torp types than just your faction's specific kind, like if you wanted to have a fed fighter/shuttle/frigate that uses disruptors or plasma based weapons (I use a disruptor based build on one of my carriers, and would like to have a similar type on my pets.). even if this were implemented into the game as a dil sink via the hanger-pet vendor giving you access to more variants of the faction specific hanger-pets with different weapon types.
  • lopequillopequil Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    I myself was saddened to see the Gorn fighters restricted to the new ship. If you want to stick to disruptors your choice is either Orion slavers, which aren't worth using since commodities were merged, or Nausican stingers, which are... underwhelming. I can understand why BoPs are restricted, no issues there, but non-Fed factions are very limited in their choice of pets; Romulans have only one.
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  • rmy1081rmy1081 Member Posts: 2,840 Arc User
    I'm actually hoping this is a bug. Every non frigate KDF hangar pet has been open to be used on any ship, even the Nausican Stingers from the Kolasi Siege Destroyer. Maybe @borticuscryptic or @crypticspartan#0627 would know?
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    lopequil wrote: »
    I myself was saddened to see the Gorn fighters restricted to the new ship. If you want to stick to disruptors your choice is either Orion slavers, which aren't worth using since commodities were merged, or Nausican stingers, which are... underwhelming. I can understand why BoPs are restricted, no issues there, but non-Fed factions are very limited in their choice of pets; Romulans have only one.

    if you get the thrai, we now have 2 options..... wooo.... yays.... and I think the KT Scorpions look different if you have the T'laru
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  • welcome2earfwelcome2earf Member Posts: 1,746 Arc User
    lopequil wrote: »
    I myself was saddened to see the Gorn fighters restricted to the new ship. If you want to stick to disruptors your choice is either Orion slavers, which aren't worth using since commodities were merged, or Nausican stingers, which are... underwhelming. I can understand why BoPs are restricted, no issues there, but non-Fed factions are very limited in their choice of pets; Romulans have only one.

    I wouldn't sell the Elite Orion Slavers short: They're quick, they also have photon torps, mines and they still steal TRIBBLE of value: Prisoners, contraband and GQ commodities. Granted, not as often as they used to since the uber-nerf, but they still do. Plus, there's the added humor of seeing that you gained 350 ec from a Borg cube during combat!
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  • lopequillopequil Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    The Slavers do steal commodities, my point was that since the fleet project changes these are now essentially worthless.
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  • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    edited February 2017
    lopequil wrote: »
    The Slavers do steal commodities, my point was that since the fleet project changes these are now essentially worthless.

    still can be turned into ec for fleets or echange or whatever. not any more useless than before change. hell even not counting that slavers can end up saving a lot of ec while your doffing.

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  • potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    i hope it is a Bug, I was hoping to use these on several ships actually :(

    Also Romulans should definately have a Runabout shuttle pet.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    rmy1081 wrote: »
    I'm actually hoping this is a bug. Every non frigate KDF hangar pet has been open to be used on any ship, even the Nausican Stingers from the Kolasi Siege Destroyer. Maybe @borticuscryptic or @crypticspartan#0627 would know?
    this reminds me... I used S'Kuls that I stole from the Fek ship on my Kolasi. :p
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  • makocallowaymakocalloway Member Posts: 455 Arc User
    I'm not a big KDF player, but i have to agree. I can use my runabouts on anything, why can't the KDF with these?
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    kodachikuno wrote: »
    lopequil wrote: »
    I myself was saddened to see the Gorn fighters restricted to the new ship. If you want to stick to disruptors your choice is either Orion slavers, which aren't worth using since commodities were merged, or Nausican stingers, which are... underwhelming. I can understand why BoPs are restricted, no issues there, but non-Fed factions are very limited in their choice of pets; Romulans have only one.

    if you get the thrai, we now have 2 options..... wooo.... yays.... and I think the KT Scorpions look different if you have the T'laru

    There's only one true choice for the T'Laru to fill both hangar slots B)
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  • potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    Don't forget the frigate for Romulans
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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    potasssium wrote: »
    Don't forget the frigate for Romulans

    do we have one?
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    tacofangs wrote: »
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    kodachikuno wrote: »
    potasssium wrote: »
    Don't forget the frigate for Romulans

    do we have one?

    The Elite Romulan Drones from the Scimitar.
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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    warmaker001b wrote: »
    kodachikuno wrote: »
    potasssium wrote: »
    Don't forget the frigate for Romulans

    do we have one?

    The Elite Romulan Drones from the Scimitar.

    ahh... hadn't realized they were considered frigates. thx
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  • peachpest04peachpest04 Member Posts: 62 Arc User
    I agree far too many hanger pets are restricted to ships or ship types these days we need more universal hanger pets.
  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,003 Arc User
    I think limiting either pets or consoles to specific ships is silly. You still have to buy the thing, you should be able to use it's gimmick on your favourite.
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  • peachpest04peachpest04 Member Posts: 62 Arc User
    angrytarg wrote: »
    I think limiting either pets or consoles to specific ships is silly. You still have to buy the thing, you should be able to use it's gimmick on your favourite.

    This would probably help drive sales up too, getting more for your money.

  • nikeixnikeix Member Posts: 3,972 Arc User
    edited February 2017
    Because God forbid when they release a brokenly overpowered console it should ever be prevented from being part of the arsenal forever...
  • asuran14asuran14 Member Posts: 2,335 Arc User
    Would not say that consoles should be fully able to be used on all ships, but expanding what ships some fo the consoles can be used on would be nice. Like with the kobali/Lukar anniversary ships that have a console for the science or command-cruiser ship sets, but can not actually slot the rest of the set. Having these an other unique consoles expanded to be able to be slotted on say all ships of their base class would be nice, as than some of the older unique consoles that are locked to a single ship type could be more versatile.
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    angrytarg wrote: »
    I think limiting either pets or consoles to specific ships is silly. You still have to buy the thing, you should be able to use it's gimmick on your favourite.

    yeah I wanna launch b'rel and KT scorpions from my Iconian ship firing tholian web mines!!! MAH IMMURZHUNZ!!!
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    tacofangs wrote: »
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  • feiqafeiqa Member Posts: 2,410 Arc User
    kodachikuno wrote: »
    angrytarg wrote: »
    I think limiting either pets or consoles to specific ships is silly. You still have to buy the thing, you should be able to use it's gimmick on your favourite.

    yeah I wanna launch b'rel and KT scorpions from my Iconian ship firing tholian web mines!!! MAH IMMURZHUNZ!!!

    I was thinking a saucer sep console on a T'varo. ;)

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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    feiqa wrote: »
    kodachikuno wrote: »
    angrytarg wrote: »
    I think limiting either pets or consoles to specific ships is silly. You still have to buy the thing, you should be able to use it's gimmick on your favourite.

    yeah I wanna launch b'rel and KT scorpions from my Iconian ship firing tholian web mines!!! MAH IMMURZHUNZ!!!

    I was thinking a saucer sep console on a T'varo. ;)

    we c an make that even more absurd with the multi-vector thing on an iconian ship too! :D Break off all those long bits into their own attack ships lol
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,875 Arc User
    lopequil wrote: »
    I myself was saddened to see the Gorn fighters restricted to the new ship. If you want to stick to disruptors your choice is either Orion slavers, which aren't worth using since commodities were merged, or Nausican stingers, which are... underwhelming. I can understand why BoPs are restricted, no issues there, but non-Fed factions are very limited in their choice of pets; Romulans have only one.

    Actually...technically none...well the Dreads have the Drone ships and the JJTrek mining ships has it's own fighters...which are both exclusives...if Romulans don't fly those ships than our only options are aligned faction fighters or rep grinding.

    Romulans literally have no exclusive general use fighter pets...
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,003 Arc User
    Separation consoles are the only ones that can not reasonably be used on other ships. The most sensible solution would be to not make it a console at all and integrate separation into the ship. The set bonus could still be "three piece" by equipping the two other consoles on a exploration cruiser for example.
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  • feiqafeiqa Member Posts: 2,410 Arc User
    angrytarg wrote: »
    Separation consoles are the only ones that can not reasonably be used on other ships. The most sensible solution would be to not make it a console at all and integrate separation into the ship. The set bonus could still be "three piece" by equipping the two other consoles on a exploration cruiser for example.

    Making all consoles universally accessible also leaves questions like the Scimitar three piece set. Cloaked barrage will do nothing on a fed ship with no cloak. And the set bonus Thalaron pulse would likely look ridiculous charging up from the deflector.

    If we say within faction. Then things get better. Though I suspect every fed ship will suddenly have the cloak console. Which I would be all for if only to put one on my Wells. (Crossing fingers for T6)

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  • asuran14asuran14 Member Posts: 2,335 Arc User
    angrytarg wrote: »
    Separation consoles are the only ones that can not reasonably be used on other ships. The most sensible solution would be to not make it a console at all and integrate separation into the ship. The set bonus could still be "three piece" by equipping the two other consoles on a exploration cruiser for example.

    I agree there, and that would also make ships like the gal-x able to be able to use dual heavy cannons with having to slot as much turn rate boasting consoles, since you can just saucer separate to gain the boost to turn rate it gives, while than you could also still make it that part of the console set bonus is a buff to the separated pet in some form.
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