It seems like I've been awarded the free ships every single time. I haven't played the PC version in over a year. y'all are getting hosed, that's for absolute sure. if they would let me apply those codes to the xbox I would be ecstatic, but they won't so they just sit in my inventory.
Some take thier MMOs seriously , to each their own and if taking an MMO seriously makes them happy , then who am i to judge
True enough. But this just gets so tiring cause it happens every damn time. Doesn't even have to be this type of promotion, people whined about the Leeta Groupies one as well. Constant whining about how they didn't get some toy. It's just crazy.
dumb question, but wasn't the Leeta thing during a New York Event and you actually had to GO to the New York Event and talk to them to get it? Or something like that? (Obviously, I don't have it, since I didn't go.)
I think you could get the Leeta BOFF some way like that but can't remember. I was referring to the limited time offer to get some shuttles, the mirror guardian and the Leeta BOFF via a minimum $10 donation thru groupees. It happened pretty quick and so a lot of people complained about the short time frame. Not enough being available. Some went even so far as to then complain about the charity.
Well im f2p player,i never spended a dime,i didnt play this game since end of 2014,and i got free t6 sovereign,some version of free t6 galaxy and free instant level from 50 to 60.So i guess its completly random
I think you could get the Leeta BOFF some way like that but can't remember. I was referring to the limited time offer to get some shuttles, the mirror guardian and the Leeta BOFF via a minimum $10 donation thru groupees. It happened pretty quick and so a lot of people complained about the short time frame. Not enough being available. Some went even so far as to then complain about the charity.
Oh.
That.
I remember it. I found out after it was over.
edit: don't recall the details, but it always put me in the mind of a crowd fundraiser. A quick way to get the needed funds for maintenance and such type of thing when normal routes are blocked or there's not enough to keep the lights on.
I think you could get the Leeta BOFF some way like that but can't remember. I was referring to the limited time offer to get some shuttles, the mirror guardian and the Leeta BOFF via a minimum $10 donation thru groupees. It happened pretty quick and so a lot of people complained about the short time frame. Not enough being available. Some went even so far as to then complain about the charity.
By the time I heard of it, half the ships were 'sold out'... T'was a touch irritating, but I wasn't actively playing the game at the time, so that took the sting out of it.
What I don't understand is if its totally random who has recieved the promotion, as it seems to be, why not just give it out to everyone?
The random allotment doesn't give us as players any indication as to why the players who have recieved the ships were "rewarded" them. There is no indication of incentive.
In the words of a certain pointy-eared bloke, its illogical.
I think you could get the Leeta BOFF some way like that but can't remember. I was referring to the limited time offer to get some shuttles, the mirror guardian and the Leeta BOFF via a minimum $10 donation thru groupees. It happened pretty quick and so a lot of people complained about the short time frame. Not enough being available. Some went even so far as to then complain about the charity.
By the time I heard of it, half the ships were 'sold out'... T'was a touch irritating, but I wasn't actively playing the game at the time, so that took the sting out of it.
Yeah, I got really lucky on that one as I don't often check the announcements and just happened to that day. Even so, there weren't many left when I got there and I was fumbling around with the site as I couldn't actually even get signed up. Got an order in right near when the main ship ran out. Figured I hadn't actually made it as there was no notification but as much as I was a bit disappointed, I figured at least I'd donated to a charity. But then a couple hours later it all showed up for me.
First obstacle: People have to turn on the accept email button.
Second obstacle: Randomization of award
Third obstacle: People have to read the randomly generated email and activate the code
Fourth obstacle: People have to then go to the Promotions tab in the C-store and accept the awarded ship in the period of time it is offered.
Fifth obstacle: unreceived ships get deleted when the promotion expires.
Purpose: To make the awarded item as Rare as possible and nearly unique to the players who received them.
So it's not illogical, but the logic of rarety that is predominant. It's one of the ways they can give something away without flooding the market. Those who didn't get it, but want it, might still be able to buy it off the C-store, if available. It's not charity, but a marketing gimmick.
What I don't understand is if its totally random who has recieved the promotion, as it seems to be, why not just give it out to everyone?
The random allotment doesn't give us as players any indication as to why the players who have recieved the ships were "rewarded" them. There is no indication of incentive.
In the words of a certain pointy-eared bloke, its illogical.
Best answers I can give you. By limiting the scope of the giveaway they are not hurting the sales of the ship in the c-store. And may infact bolster the sales as seeing it in action, hopefully, raises interest.
As specialization points are not saleable I am not certain why they would be used to incentivize and hopefully another community member can answer.
And being random to us does not mean it was random in the Cryptic offices. And making it seem random may have been a way to keep people from finding a way to game the system. Either blocking people from future giveaways or just doing the one or two thing(s) needed to win.
I hope this at least partially answers your question.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
Like the Nagus before it: the Soverign give-away occured to what appears to be random people, with no explanation.
It's like it's custom-designed to lower morale.
There have been some "5 lucky winner" giveaways, and there are "show up and everyone gets"; but give aways like the one they did yesterday (and the Nagus before it) are, well, bad. Not to the people who recieve to be sure, but to the rest of us for whom it feels like a big "you suck" (not to mention people who purchased it with Zen).
Fix this guys. If you are giving away the ship, then give away the ship. Don't do these unnanouced secret "to some people".
PS. Feel free to placate me by sending me a code (Nagus would be even better). Lord knows you have gotten enough of my money that keeping my moral up is likely a good choice.
What I don't understand is if its totally random who has recieved the promotion, as it seems to be, why not just give it out to everyone?
The random allotment doesn't give us as players any indication as to why the players who have recieved the ships were "rewarded" them. There is no indication of incentive.
In the words of a certain pointy-eared bloke, its illogical.
By that thinking, door prizes are illogical. That's basically all this is, a door prize. You play the game, you are entered in a drawing to get a prize. That's all there is to it. Nothing illogical about that, unless you consider all door prizes illogical.
What I don't understand is if its totally random who has recieved the promotion, as it seems to be, why not just give it out to everyone?
The random allotment doesn't give us as players any indication as to why the players who have recieved the ships were "rewarded" them. There is no indication of incentive.
In the words of a certain pointy-eared bloke, its illogical.
By that thinking, door prizes are illogical. That's basically all this is, a door prize. You play the game, you are entered in a drawing to get a prize. That's all there is to it. Nothing illogical about that, unless you consider all door prizes illogical.
But its a door prize being given to people who haven't passed through the door, in some cases, for upto 2 years (going on just some of the posts in this thread), while other more loyal attendee's stand there with their numbered tickets in hand and dissapointed looks on their faces.
I understand what has happened.
What I find illogical is using a door prize system as a promotional push, which leaves quite a few of your customers dissapointed because of the randomness of it.
As I made the point before, if those who won hand been picked due to a certain criteria, those who didn't qualify are given something to aim at to be included next time.
What I don't understand is if its totally random who has recieved the promotion, as it seems to be, why not just give it out to everyone?
The random allotment doesn't give us as players any indication as to why the players who have recieved the ships were "rewarded" them. There is no indication of incentive.
In the words of a certain pointy-eared bloke, its illogical.
By that thinking, door prizes are illogical. That's basically all this is, a door prize. You play the game, you are entered in a drawing to get a prize. That's all there is to it. Nothing illogical about that, unless you consider all door prizes illogical.
But its a door prize being given to people who haven't passed through the door, in some cases, for upto 2 years (going on just some of the posts in this thread), while other more loyal attendee's stand there with their numbered tickets in hand and dissapointed looks on their faces.
I understand what has happened.
What I find illogical is using a door prize system as a promotional push, which leaves quite a few of your customers dissapointed because of the randomness of it.
As I made the point before, if those who won hand been picked due to a certain criteria, those who didn't qualify are given something to aim at to be included next time.
That's kinda how door prizes work. If you show up to a 4 hour office party or something and they have door prizes, but you leave early because you have to pick up your kid or whatever and you miss the door prize, you missed the door prize. This door prize just takes place over a much longer length of time.
As a promotional push, it makes even more sense to include those that have not played in an extended period of time because they may log back in and spend money after seeing the e-mail. In fact, it would have made even more sense as a promotional push to ONLY include people who had been inactive for a certain period of time. Instead, they chose to give everyone a chance.
Well, the criteria is pretty clear at this point. Have you signed up for and played at any point in time? You meet the criteria. Nothing to aim for to be included next time. It's just a random door prize. Seriously. That's all it is. Something nice they did that everyone had a chance to get.
I'll say again, as I said earlier, people should quit being so concerned with what other people got. Focus instead on what you do get, which is still quite a bit, and more than most other games out there give for free. On top of that, you have a chance to get bonuses like this one, which is pretty great. Especially seeing as the only criteria appears to be to have an account. You don't even have to go out of your way to do anything extra to have a chance at this same prize.
What I don't understand is if its totally random who has recieved the promotion, as it seems to be, why not just give it out to everyone?
Then how would Cryptic make money from that C-Store ship?
Maybe Cryptic should cease all giveaways that way no one gets anything from the C-Store for free. For things like Specialization Points players would simply have to play the game to get it.
So...basically you have a 50 and 70 year old kid working at your place and that is proof that you shouldn't grow up and accept the results of a RANDOM giveaway because?!? As for payment for services rendered...if you think your service is worth more, than DEMAND more. If they refuse, go to where you think you get what your service is worth. Course if you value your service too high, nobody will pay for it...but that is how this whole economic system works. Yes, the salesmen are worth more than you working as a warehouse shlepper because they generate more money for the company than you do AND their skillset isn't something ANYONE can do well. Same deal with the delivery drivers. And trash collectors...well anyone can technically do that...but NOBODY does it because it's gross. If you want their money, man up and collect some stinky **** garbage every day instead of moving boxes around a warehouse. Basically grow up. No really.
I am going to correct you on the no one else can do their job nor has their skillset. As I as a lowly warehouse shlepper am the company IT person and have to show them how to use the sales system once a week at minimum. And the 50's service manager has to fill in for them when they take time off. Noting that any sales he makes go to them an not to him. The person with the virtually irreplaceable skills are the service manager. Who walks people through repairs on the phone while scheduling others elsewhere. And the shipper when no one else could figure out how to turn on the computers. (Last part is ridiculous I thought the job was doable by an untrained monkey till they failed at it.)
My point was I hear the "Stop complaining and feeling entitled." Argument to often and in too many places. Guess what after this post I am off to work. I am glad I have a job at all right now. But that argument has gotten stale and is approaching Godwin's law status at this point.
Who said NO ONE could do their job? I said it's not something ANYONE can do. There is a huge difference. And yeah, you know a skill set of turn on the computer that the old guys don't know. So you have any idea how easy that is to replace? As for your service manager...yeah it sounds like he is important to the company and if the company was smart they would pay him well...bonus or not (because you know what is better than having a christmas bonus? Making bank year round...we have a few employee who instead of getting bonus for various things just have a higher salary year round). If not...than he should go elsewhere where they will pay him what he is worth. If not...than the fault lies with him...not anyone else. Grow up and take responsibility for your own damn choices and where you are in life.
It is more they can't load and fill out the boxes on a program they are to use daily. When referring to can't work the sales system.
And my working the server is fixing why it does not communicate with the Florida office. But another thread title that came up just makes me want to sigh and hit my head on my desk. Because the title sounds just like the whining you are complaining about.
And checked, you are commenting in. So I am going to stop here as this has gotten foolish.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
So you have IT skills...go find a better IT job if you are not happy where you are. Don't quit what you have until you do find better mind you...but start looking. If you ain't...then your situation is all you. If people like you start to leave the company the foolishness of those two man child and other like it comes to light as they lose support...guess what, the owners will start to pay people like you and your service manager more and those like those two fools less. Or go out of buisness. Take charge of your life...that is what it means to grow up.
Apparently I am not a great communicator. But I shall try. I brought up RL because it seemed that the grow up line was addressed to say no one should ever complain or feel disappointed ever. We did voice our displeasure and got our bonuses at Christmas. The part I hoped you would see was I had to disperse tips to the trashmen before the employees. And the grow up line seemed out of place over what seemed to be a mild disappointment over a small giveaway in a game. . . Then there was a more aggressive complaint about maintenance and I am giving up defending the grousing here. As the side I am effectively defending is proving you right.
Do not fear I would be so foolish as to quit a job and not have another. I find better, I will put in a proper two weeks notice and perform my duties till my last day.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
give this thread a rest, most players have already got more value from the giveaways this week then what was in that promotion and you will also get an awesome looking ship in the anniversary event.
if you didn't get the email it was probably just bad luck, maybe you will be more lucky next time.
3 more ships added to this giveaway so even if you didn't get the email you can hardly say you are hard done by, ok they were only T5's but even so it still adds to the value of the freebies from this event.
so sometimes some of us might miss out on getting these emails but its hardly the crime of the century, just be grateful for what we do get and move on.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
I used to feel sad that my mrs (who hasn't played in years), got lots of nice promo emails and I did not. Then I realised I hadn't ticked the option to receive said emails in the first place in my settings. My fault lol! Am I annoyed for not getting a special secrety type ship in a very limited giveaway? Na not really, its a nice ship but not gamebreaking and I'm getting two free ships I did not previously have this month anyway. And I am grateful for it
"If this will be our end, then I will have them make SUCH an end as to be worthy of rememberance! Out of torpedos you say?! Find me the ferengi!".
Only draw back to the ship giveaway today, is that you have to be able to pull a T5 ship with that toon to unlock it in the store for the account. Tried pulling it on this account with the KDF toon I have on it, but forgot it's still a noob. oh well. Got the other two. As I've not used my other accounts in a while, didn't see the point in trying for it there. Will try to level up some, but doubt I'll unlock it before today's expires. too bad for me. Hell, it was free. *shrug*
Seriously, the next FREE ship should be a [T7] Workbee, with a tiny welding torch arm to zap things and cut into the side of a ship for boarding. No guns. No torps. Just quad shielding, and the ability to 'Board' another ship and go hand-to-hand in a free-for-all ground action on the other ship. Only way to really make use of all that unseen ship space. maybe a mini-game to try to cut into the hull before entering.
Just a thought.
Now I'm going to be smacked for bringing up the workbee again. Ha!
When i got the email i assumed it was because i took their lock box survey they sent, the ONLY reason i took the survey was the possibility of a reward. I dont even open lock boxes.
The email only mentioned the T6 Intel Sovereign and a thing to instantly level a toon to lvl 60. I already bought the ship on black friday. Someone say there are 10 spec points too? Awesome. I was going to give it away but i may keep it now. Anyone confirm this?
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I think you could get the Leeta BOFF some way like that but can't remember. I was referring to the limited time offer to get some shuttles, the mirror guardian and the Leeta BOFF via a minimum $10 donation thru groupees. It happened pretty quick and so a lot of people complained about the short time frame. Not enough being available. Some went even so far as to then complain about the charity.
Oh.
That.
I remember it. I found out after it was over.
edit: don't recall the details, but it always put me in the mind of a crowd fundraiser. A quick way to get the needed funds for maintenance and such type of thing when normal routes are blocked or there's not enough to keep the lights on.
By the time I heard of it, half the ships were 'sold out'... T'was a touch irritating, but I wasn't actively playing the game at the time, so that took the sting out of it.
The random allotment doesn't give us as players any indication as to why the players who have recieved the ships were "rewarded" them. There is no indication of incentive.
In the words of a certain pointy-eared bloke, its illogical.
Yeah, I got really lucky on that one as I don't often check the announcements and just happened to that day. Even so, there weren't many left when I got there and I was fumbling around with the site as I couldn't actually even get signed up. Got an order in right near when the main ship ran out. Figured I hadn't actually made it as there was no notification but as much as I was a bit disappointed, I figured at least I'd donated to a charity. But then a couple hours later it all showed up for me.
Second obstacle: Randomization of award
Third obstacle: People have to read the randomly generated email and activate the code
Fourth obstacle: People have to then go to the Promotions tab in the C-store and accept the awarded ship in the period of time it is offered.
Fifth obstacle: unreceived ships get deleted when the promotion expires.
Purpose: To make the awarded item as Rare as possible and nearly unique to the players who received them.
So it's not illogical, but the logic of rarety that is predominant. It's one of the ways they can give something away without flooding the market. Those who didn't get it, but want it, might still be able to buy it off the C-store, if available. It's not charity, but a marketing gimmick.
Best answers I can give you. By limiting the scope of the giveaway they are not hurting the sales of the ship in the c-store. And may infact bolster the sales as seeing it in action, hopefully, raises interest.
As specialization points are not saleable I am not certain why they would be used to incentivize and hopefully another community member can answer.
And being random to us does not mean it was random in the Cryptic offices. And making it seem random may have been a way to keep people from finding a way to game the system. Either blocking people from future giveaways or just doing the one or two thing(s) needed to win.
I hope this at least partially answers your question.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
Email giveaway? That code did not go to all? WTF?
By that thinking, door prizes are illogical. That's basically all this is, a door prize. You play the game, you are entered in a drawing to get a prize. That's all there is to it. Nothing illogical about that, unless you consider all door prizes illogical.
But its a door prize being given to people who haven't passed through the door, in some cases, for upto 2 years (going on just some of the posts in this thread), while other more loyal attendee's stand there with their numbered tickets in hand and dissapointed looks on their faces.
I understand what has happened.
What I find illogical is using a door prize system as a promotional push, which leaves quite a few of your customers dissapointed because of the randomness of it.
As I made the point before, if those who won hand been picked due to a certain criteria, those who didn't qualify are given something to aim at to be included next time.
That's kinda how door prizes work. If you show up to a 4 hour office party or something and they have door prizes, but you leave early because you have to pick up your kid or whatever and you miss the door prize, you missed the door prize. This door prize just takes place over a much longer length of time.
As a promotional push, it makes even more sense to include those that have not played in an extended period of time because they may log back in and spend money after seeing the e-mail. In fact, it would have made even more sense as a promotional push to ONLY include people who had been inactive for a certain period of time. Instead, they chose to give everyone a chance.
Well, the criteria is pretty clear at this point. Have you signed up for and played at any point in time? You meet the criteria. Nothing to aim for to be included next time. It's just a random door prize. Seriously. That's all it is. Something nice they did that everyone had a chance to get.
I'll say again, as I said earlier, people should quit being so concerned with what other people got. Focus instead on what you do get, which is still quite a bit, and more than most other games out there give for free. On top of that, you have a chance to get bonuses like this one, which is pretty great. Especially seeing as the only criteria appears to be to have an account. You don't even have to go out of your way to do anything extra to have a chance at this same prize.
Then how would Cryptic make money from that C-Store ship?
Maybe Cryptic should cease all giveaways that way no one gets anything from the C-Store for free. For things like Specialization Points players would simply have to play the game to get it.
It is more they can't load and fill out the boxes on a program they are to use daily. When referring to can't work the sales system.
And my working the server is fixing why it does not communicate with the Florida office. But another thread title that came up just makes me want to sigh and hit my head on my desk. Because the title sounds just like the whining you are complaining about.
And checked, you are commenting in. So I am going to stop here as this has gotten foolish.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
Apparently I am not a great communicator. But I shall try. I brought up RL because it seemed that the grow up line was addressed to say no one should ever complain or feel disappointed ever. We did voice our displeasure and got our bonuses at Christmas. The part I hoped you would see was I had to disperse tips to the trashmen before the employees. And the grow up line seemed out of place over what seemed to be a mild disappointment over a small giveaway in a game. . . Then there was a more aggressive complaint about maintenance and I am giving up defending the grousing here. As the side I am effectively defending is proving you right.
Do not fear I would be so foolish as to quit a job and not have another. I find better, I will put in a proper two weeks notice and perform my duties till my last day.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
3 more ships added to this giveaway so even if you didn't get the email you can hardly say you are hard done by, ok they were only T5's but even so it still adds to the value of the freebies from this event.
so sometimes some of us might miss out on getting these emails but its hardly the crime of the century, just be grateful for what we do get and move on.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
Then I realised I hadn't ticked the option to receive said emails in the first place in my settings.
My fault lol!
Am I annoyed for not getting a special secrety type ship in a very limited giveaway? Na not really, its a nice ship but not gamebreaking and I'm getting two free ships I did not previously have this month anyway.
And I am grateful for it
"If this will be our end, then I will have them make SUCH an end as to be worthy of rememberance! Out of torpedos you say?! Find me the ferengi!".
Here, here!
Just a thought.
Now I'm going to be smacked for bringing up the workbee again. Ha!
(edit: making another thread based on this.)
The email only mentioned the T6 Intel Sovereign and a thing to instantly level a toon to lvl 60. I already bought the ship on black friday. Someone say there are 10 spec points too? Awesome. I was going to give it away but i may keep it now. Anyone confirm this?