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Cherry Epohh Fiasco

I can not believe the cherry epohh fiasco is still going on. It's been over a month since they discovered they were not awarding cherry epohhs. Then they "Fixed it" and now everyone is drowning in Cherry epohhs they cannot redeem for marks. Don't they have a QA department to stop things like this for happening? They must subscribe to the Microsoft school of software development. Distribute a large TRIBBLE pile of software and fix it later. Or hope no one notices. I suppose we really have to wait a year to solve this problem. Well I'm done venting now. I suppose all you trolls will tear me apart now. Go for it.
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  • drakethewhitedrakethewhite Member Posts: 1,240 Arc User
    It's typical Cryptic behavior, a good chuck of everything they do is left undone sometimes for weeks, sometimes for months, most often for years. And sometimes forever.

    Best guess, they are critically understaffed and don't have time to do any of it correctly before they have to rush for the next 'event'. Once or twice per year they'll grab a bunch of low hanging fruit to fix, fixes that may or may not hold just to say they try. And that will be it.

    There's no point in being surprised. And no point in hoping it will get better.
  • cidjackcidjack Member Posts: 2,017 Arc User
    Please remove the Eagle, Globle and Anchor if you are going to act like a child, it deserve more honor then that.
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  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,901 Community Moderator
    Oh. I thought this was an advertisement for a new game. Certainly sounds like one. Cherry Epohh Fiasco. Color me disappointed. :/
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  • xyquarzexyquarze Member Posts: 2,120 Arc User
    Yes, the Cherry (and Extreme Lime Rare) situation is somewhat annoying. Yes, it should have been handled better, or explained/communicated better. But a fiasco? Really?

    This is not gonna break your game. At worst, you lose out on 200 marks. Bad, but not killing you. Still some ways to go:

    - keep it as a pet, looks good
    - keep it until next year, hoping it'll be tradeable then
    - count your losses, discard and move on

    But keep things in perspective. One lost way of gaining marks, but you can still play everything else in the game. You don't even have to rearrange stuff like with the loadout bug a year plus ago. Keep calm and STO. Or GTFO.
    My mother was an epohh and my father smelled of tulaberries
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,661 Arc User
    Since you'll apparently be ragequitting soon:

    Can I Haz Ur Stuffs?
  • anodynesanodynes Member Posts: 1,999 Arc User
    Oh. I thought this was an advertisement for a new game. Certainly sounds like one. Cherry Epohh Fiasco. Color me disappointed. :/

    Perhaps a delicious dessert? Waiter, I'd like a Cherry Eppoh Fiasco with extra whipped cream, please.
    This is an MMO, not a Star Trek episode simulator. That would make for a terrible game.
  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    Fiasco? Tell that to some random guy in Syria who's barely surviving, OP. I'm sure that he'll sympathize with your plight.
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  • jbmonroejbmonroe Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    All this time in the game, and I still haven't any idea why Epohhs are even interesting, much less a topic causing such levels of agitas.

    (This is not semantically equivalent to "tell me everything you know about Epohhs." If I wanted to know about Epohhs, I would have invested the time. I don't, so I haven't, and I won't. Now, if there was some sort of activity which involved phasering the little pests for fun and profit, I might be interested.)

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  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    jbmonroe wrote: »
    Now, if there was some sort of activity which involved phasering the little pests for fun and profit, I might be interested.

    Dear Cryptic,

    Make it so.

    Yours,

    Jack Bergins
    "Logic is a little tweeting bird chirping in a meadow. Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell BAD." - Spock
  • bcwhguderian1941bcwhguderian1941 Member Posts: 804 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    This sure brought the wolves out of the forest!! Teasing :) OP, just be calm. I've got (9) Cherry, and (1) Lime waiting for a fix. If I find I can't spare the room for them any longer, my Gorn crewman find them tasty.

    BCW
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  • tmassxtmassx Member Posts: 831 Arc User
    Cherry Epohh Apocalypse
  • shevetshevet Member Posts: 1,667 Arc User
    It's an issue. It's not a game-breaking or an earth-shaking issue, but it's a minor annoyance to some people.

    What would be nice, of course, is some indication that it's on the devs' radar, somewhere, and will get fixed sometime, when they get around to it, when they have programmer-hours to spare for a minor annoyance to some people. It does worry me that communication is so poor, here... I mean, according to the patch notes, there are currently two "known issues" ("Some maps with reflections from windows may have visual issues" and "Klingon Captains cannot wear some of the winter scarves"), and we all know there are more issues than that, and the devs know it too, and they know we know, so why not come right out and say so?
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  • roamerzaroamerza Member Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    According to an online dictionary a fiasco is "a thing that is a complete failure, especially in a ludicrous or humiliating way."

    So while a solution is not going to solve world peace or help those poor souls in Syria, in terms of this game, it is indeed a Fiasco. If anyone wants to weirdly equate the two with the OP, can I suggest you stop playing this and all other games and get on a plane to a troubled hot spot and help out.

    Two new rewards were added, which we did not need or ask for, one of which did not appear for another week, and then no one checked to see if these new rewards could be handed in?!? That is indeed a fiasco.

    Unless Cherry Epohhs are the "Joker Card" of Epohhs, the implementation was not thought through, in a really "ludicrous or humiliating way."
    I really can not believe not one of the developers did not pick this up. The Epohh mechanics have been with us since New Romulus. You grow them and trade them in, keeping the odd one for a pet.

    Personally, I have on average 5-6 Cherry and Lime Epohhs per character. I played every day but two over the Winter event. I have at least 55 of these useless critters hogging space in my inventory, and they represent 55 character days worth of useless rewards. I would like to get rid of them at some stage. Please Cryptic!

  • drakethewhitedrakethewhite Member Posts: 1,240 Arc User
    xyquarze wrote: »
    This is not gonna break your game. At worst, you lose out on 200 marks. Bad, but not killing you. Still some ways to go:

    200 per or the inventory slot(s) that goes towards hanging onto them until and if they finally fix it. Remember, so people got more than one of this things. I have one character with five of them. Plus add in the Extreme Lime- Rares too, same problem.

    No, not game breaking. As long as I can fly my promo Connie in sector space and do DOFF and Admiralty- the game isn't broken for me even if suddenly everything else failed. I play this game because I have very low requirements.

    That said, a game company offers a service. Part of this service is a implied best effort to actually make their events work, and the promised rewards available. Cryptic consistently fails at this, and consistently fails to patch those mistakes in a reasonable period of time. I don't mind the former so much, but the latter is very disappointing.

  • szimszim Member Posts: 2,503 Arc User
    First the fall of the Roman Empire, then 2 World Wars and now THIS! Humanity really goes down the drain.
  • nimbullnimbull Member Posts: 1,564 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    I fed my epohh's to cannibal tribbles. The guy on Qo'nos didn't notice and gave me my latinum.
    Green people don't have to be.... little.
  • satai07satai07 Member Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    It's annoying.

    Inventory space is at a premium. Bank space is at a premium. And, I need marks.

    I entered a ticket about it just a few days ago. The response I got was that it was an "Unreported bug". OMG LoL. I have 10 elder cherry epohhs and two extreme lime on one character. Between my four, that number is close to 30 total.

  • jbmonroejbmonroe Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    xyquarze wrote: »
    This is not gonna break your game. At worst, you lose out on 200 marks. Bad, but not killing you. Still some ways to go:

    200 per or the inventory slot(s) that goes towards hanging onto them until and if they finally fix it. Remember, so people got more than one of this things. I have one character with five of them. Plus add in the Extreme Lime- Rares too, same problem.

    No, not game breaking. As long as I can fly my promo Connie in sector space and do DOFF and Admiralty- the game isn't broken for me even if suddenly everything else failed. I play this game because I have very low requirements.

    That said, a game company offers a service. Part of this service is a implied best effort to actually make their events work, and the promised rewards available. Cryptic consistently fails at this, and consistently fails to patch those mistakes in a reasonable period of time. I don't mind the former so much, but the latter is very disappointing.

    I simply choose not to get all worked up about the functionality (or lack thereof) of a non-canon, completely optional part of the game experience. I hope that whichever game designed came up with that horrid mess is now on the streets making less than minimum wage driving for Uber. (It wouldn't be punishment enough, but it would be something.)

    During Q's Winter Wonderland, I would have gladly killed, multiple times daily, that idiot female raving over Epohhs. No, they're not cute. No, I don't want one. Alas, the game designers did not deign to make her killable--as she so richly deserved. Adding insult to injury, that.

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  • drakethewhitedrakethewhite Member Posts: 1,240 Arc User
    jbmonroe wrote: »
    I simply choose not to get all worked up about the functionality (or lack thereof) of a non-canon, completely optional part of the game experience.

    So self-centered.

    What is optional and what's not optional in a game as wide ranging as this is up to each individual. For me, the winter and summer events are actually one of only two reasons to play (the other being Doffing and Admiralty).

    The rest? Boring.

    You don't get to decide what's important for others. And cryptic for their part- should work to make sure that all components of their offering are working as planned. They offered this entertainment, what they offer should work and if it doesn't it should have timely fixes. That it doesn't reflect badly on them, and they should be called on it.
  • satai07satai07 Member Posts: 48 Arc User
    What I don't understand is this..

    Initially.. nobody was getting the Cherry Epohhs. I'm not even sure if people were complained about it, but a few folks made the observation that they weren't getting them. This "issue" was fairly quickly remedied in a patch. Why wouldn't they fix the issue that their fix created.

    We were much better off before they added them.
  • chastity1337chastity1337 Member Posts: 1,608 Arc User
    cidjack wrote: »
    Please remove the Eagle, Globle and Anchor if you are going to act like a child, it deserve more honor then that.

    Based upon first-hand experience, I'm not sure "honor" is the appropriate word, but they sure as hell do teach you not to whine and snivel.
  • chastity1337chastity1337 Member Posts: 1,608 Arc User
    anodynes wrote: »
    Oh. I thought this was an advertisement for a new game. Certainly sounds like one. Cherry Epohh Fiasco. Color me disappointed. :/

    Perhaps a delicious dessert? Waiter, I'd like a Cherry Eppoh Fiasco with extra whipped cream, please.

    it should be served flambé
  • unotetsuunotetsu Member Posts: 661 Arc User
    I will get the cool whip, you get the knife and fork...
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    Cherry Epoh Jell-o dessert, yum yum...
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  • xyquarzexyquarze Member Posts: 2,120 Arc User
    roamerza wrote: »
    According to an online dictionary a fiasco is "a thing that is a complete failure, especially in a ludicrous or humiliating way."

    So while a solution is not going to solve world peace or help those poor souls in Syria, in terms of this game, it is indeed a Fiasco.

    Nope. It is not "a complete failure". There's nothing "complete" about it. Some parts of some system on the far side of the game do not work here. They weren't extremely advertised, nor central to the game, not even central to the event.
    200 per or the inventory slot(s) that goes towards hanging onto them until and if they finally fix it. Remember, so people got more than one of this things. I have one character with five of them. Plus add in the Extreme Lime- Rares too, same problem.

    200 marks is, depending on how you get your marks otherwise, setting you back maybe 2-3 days for this particular mark type you're coveting. Unless you're on some kind of deadline, three days may be annoying, yes, but they're not that big of a deal in a game like this. If you have 5 cherrys on a toon, bad luck (pure chance says you shouldn't get that many), but it's still only half a month. And everything else apart from these marks isn't affected.

    "or inventory space" - if the marks are more valuable to you than inventory space, keep the epohhs, probably it will get solved next year. You haven't lost anything when it gets solved (okay, you had the inconvenience of one less inventory slot). If inventory space is more valuable to you than the marks, delete the epohhs, you now have lost the marks but no effect on your inventory. I'll stand by "at most you lost 200 marks" (the "per" is a correct addition though). Hanging on may mitigate, then you lost less. If it doesn't, you won't lose more.

    My mother was an epohh and my father smelled of tulaberries
  • anodynesanodynes Member Posts: 1,999 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    anodynes wrote: »
    Oh. I thought this was an advertisement for a new game. Certainly sounds like one. Cherry Epohh Fiasco. Color me disappointed. :/

    Perhaps a delicious dessert? Waiter, I'd like a Cherry Eppoh Fiasco with extra whipped cream, please.

    it should be served flambé

    I like it! A little brandy in it, and they light it up at the table. Like Bananas Foster, only with decorative antlers.
    This is an MMO, not a Star Trek episode simulator. That would make for a terrible game.
  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    So what are the betting odds of this being fixed by NEXT Winter Wonderland? :D
    Sadly, I know it's not 100%. Cause you know they've stopped caring about fixing it the instant this year's WW ended.
    Sometimes I think I play STO just to have something to complain about on the forums.
  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    roamerza wrote: »
    According to an online dictionary a fiasco is "a thing that is a complete failure, especially in a ludicrous or humiliating way."

    So while a solution is not going to solve world peace or help those poor souls in Syria, in terms of this game, it is indeed a Fiasco. If anyone wants to weirdly equate the two with the OP, can I suggest you stop playing this and all other games and get on a plane to a troubled hot spot and help out.
    First World Problems, yo. Someone always has it worse. Spill your beverage? Oh well, a billion people have never tasted said beverage. Did you scuff your brand new white nikes? Cool. There's kids that don't even have shoes. Compared to even these first world problems, cherry epohs are a hilariously sad thing to be worried about.
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  • jbmonroejbmonroe Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    jbmonroe wrote: »
    I simply choose not to get all worked up about the functionality (or lack thereof) of a non-canon, completely optional part of the game experience.

    So self-centered.

    What is optional and what's not optional in a game as wide ranging as this is up to each individual. For me, the winter and summer events are actually one of only two reasons to play (the other being Doffing and Admiralty).

    The rest? Boring.

    You don't get to decide what's important for others. And cryptic for their part- should work to make sure that all components of their offering are working as planned. They offered this entertainment, what they offer should work and if it doesn't it should have timely fixes. That it doesn't reflect badly on them, and they should be called on it.

    I didn't decide anything about what's important for others. I indicated what I was (and am) doing.

    More to the point--since I am a software engineer and architect of 35 years professional experience, I understand that issues are prioritized and worked according to several factors, and I see no reason to question the heuristics that Cryptic applies when deciding to fix one bug or another. Unless one of us happens to be on the management team or the actual product owner (as in Agile Scrum), then we can have all the opinions in the world about what ought to be done next and how things ought to be prioritized--but those carry no weight in the real world.

    So please, argue with me some more. I enjoy it.
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