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Hi , guys .
I'm a level 24 rom tac char and i'm near getting my Tier 3 ship .choosing betweeen Arkif and Deridex . Arkif have 2 tac Boffs slots and Deridex 2 Eng BOFF slots . But I have 2 Science officers Satra and Hiven .So i must dismiss Hiven . But I grown to him . How do i keep him around ? Can I retake him after dismisal ? I have 1 more slots for science BOFFs at level 40 with Ha'anom .

Thank you .
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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    no, once you dismiss, he is gone... don't know if re-running the mission will give him again. Also just hold onto him if you like him youll get more BOFF slots as you level
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    You will get a free bridge officer slot when you hit level 30, so you won't have to dismiss anyone.

    None of the Romulan starter boffs can be reclaimed. If you dismiss him, he's gone for good.
  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    I think I deleted Hiven because he wasn't a Superior Romulan Operative. You could always save his visual and replace him later with an SRO. Then copy the visual back to the new improved boff.
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  • bloodyrizbloodyriz Member Posts: 1,756 Arc User
    Or just pop for a couple extra boff slots in the C-Store.​​
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    I think I deleted Hiven because he wasn't a Superior Romulan Operative. You could always save his visual and replace him later with an SRO. Then copy the visual back to the new improved boff.

    AFAIK, Hiven has exclusive outfit parts.

    Which is to say, yet another stupid tailor restriction they should remove, but alas it's there.
  • wideningxgyrewideningxgyre Member Posts: 710 Arc User
    I saved the customization on Satra in order to replace her with another one with better traits - she had unique clothes which I couldn't get back.

    I decided she simply updated her wardrobe - but it still kind of bothers me that she's just not quite the same.
  • stee1maxstee1max Member Posts: 227 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    OCD away, there is no point in keeping this trash in your roster (even this jerk Tovan, but no chance). By the end-game you will have a whole new team of SROs anyway, or as mentioned above, you can always shuffle visuals on those to your liking. Is it really worth a piece of extra clothing?

    Newcomers should really learn some basics of this game: everything sub level 50 is IRRELEVANT. You just grind your char level to at least 50 and then have mental concerns about your space barbies and builds.
  • wideningxgyrewideningxgyre Member Posts: 710 Arc User
    stee1max wrote: »
    OCD away, there is no point in keeping this trash in your roster (even this jerk Tovan, but no chance). By the end-game you will have a whole new team of SROs anyway, or as mentioned above, you can always shuffle visuals on those to your liking. Is it really worth a piece of extra clothing?

    Newcomers should really learn some basics of this game: everything sub level 50 is IRRELEVANT. You just grind your char level to at least 50 and then have mental concerns about your space barbies and builds.

    Different strokes...

    For some people, the grind to lvl 50 could be weeks of time spent with certain characters and getting rid of them would be like getting rid old friends who stuck with you - it would destroy the immersive feel of the game to cast them aside. Given the investment some folks here have made in backstories and characters, I can see where it would be tough to throw one of these guys away.

    I don't have a deep need for that immersion, but I learned that it just didn't seem right when I got rid of them outright - you get used to seeing certain characters faces while you're playing. Settled on the middle ground solution of "re-skinning" a new character with the old face.
  • anodynesanodynes Member Posts: 1,999 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    stee1max wrote: »
    OCD away, there is no point in keeping this trash in your roster (even this jerk Tovan, but no chance). By the end-game you will have a whole new team of SROs anyway, or as mentioned above, you can always shuffle visuals on those to your liking. Is it really worth a piece of extra clothing?

    Newcomers should really learn some basics of this game: everything sub level 50 is IRRELEVANT. You just grind your char level to at least 50 and then have mental concerns about your space barbies and builds.

    Different strokes...

    For some people, the grind to lvl 50 could be weeks of time spent with certain characters and getting rid of them would be like getting rid old friends who stuck with you - it would destroy the immersive feel of the game to cast them aside. Given the investment some folks here have made in backstories and characters, I can see where it would be tough to throw one of these guys away.

    I don't have a deep need for that immersion, but I learned that it just didn't seem right when I got rid of them outright - you get used to seeing certain characters faces while you're playing. Settled on the middle ground solution of "re-skinning" a new character with the old face.

    I've found that to be a little more difficult with the storyline Romulan BOffs. As you mentioned earlier, they have unique costumes, and I suspect that that is why a saved outfit on any of them doesn't even come up when you try to apply it to a generic BOff later. You can still copy them, minus whatever unique clothes they had, but you have to do it manually by copying the details of their faces and their head and body sliders.
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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    stee1max wrote: »
    OCD away, there is no point in keeping this trash in your roster (even this jerk Tovan, but no chance). By the end-game you will have a whole new team of SROs anyway, or as mentioned above, you can always shuffle visuals on those to your liking. Is it really worth a piece of extra clothing?

    Newcomers should really learn some basics of this game: everything sub level 50 is IRRELEVANT. You just grind your char level to at least 50 and then have mental concerns about your space barbies and builds.

    actually sub50 is some of the most fun content in the game for new players, and not everyone is a min/max obsessed jerk and not everyone gets a full load of SRO BOFF.... But every time I sell one for a few mill EC I laugh at those like you.
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    stee1max wrote: »
    OCD away, there is no point in keeping this trash in your roster (even this jerk Tovan, but no chance). By the end-game you will have a whole new team of SROs anyway, or as mentioned above, you can always shuffle visuals on those to your liking. Is it really worth a piece of extra clothing?

    Newcomers should really learn some basics of this game: everything sub level 50 is IRRELEVANT. You just grind your char level to at least 50 and then have mental concerns about your space barbies and builds.

    Other than DPS epeen waving, your boff's traits are IRRELEVANT. Game's easy. If I had to choose between the starter boffs' unique outfit parts or SRO, the outfit parts would win every time.
  • wendysue53wendysue53 Member Posts: 1,569 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Bridge_Officer_Slot

    Gold account = subscriber.
    Silver account = F2P.

    this may have changed since we go up to lvl 60 now.
    But according to this, you can have a total of 54 Boffs per character.

    basic boff info: http://sto.gamepedia.com/Bridge_officer

    One of a kind boffs: http://sto.gamepedia.com/Special_bridge_officer
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  • ssbn655ssbn655 Member Posts: 1,894 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    The thing that really inhales donkey nether regions is you can't dismiss Tovan! I hate that BOFF and there is really no reason once you finish the Romulan intro or hit LVL 50 to have him aboard. You have to keep Tovan a slot eating slug and sacrifice BOFF's you want or like because of him.
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  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    ssbn655 wrote: »
    The thing that really inhales donkey nether regions is you can't dismiss Tovan! I hate that BOFF and their is really no reason once you finish the Romulan intro or hit LVL 50 to have him aboard. You have to keep Tovan a slot eating slug and sacrifice BOFF's you want or like because of him.
    Tovan is my shuttle pilot. I actually quite like having him there.
    When you see "TRIBBLE" in my posts, it's because I manually typed "TRIBBLE" and censored myself.
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    I have reskinned a few of the starter Boffs into VR husks.

    Elisa Flores starts out at VR, has the human Space Trait of Leadership (and in the before-times had Torpedo Spread III, when that was difficult to get). I don't know why she needs to be sent to the Solyent Green tanks.

    In the case of the AoY Uncommon starter Boff, T'Met, I had assigned so many Skills to her by the time I could get a VR Female Vulcan Science Officer that I decided to keep her for Space assignments and reskinned to her likeness, another for Away Team assignments. Different names of course.

    Interesting that while you can use a Boff Template from any of your Account's Faction-aligned Boff for the Species/Occupation, you cannot do so with an AoY Character. For example, a Human Female Tactical used by a Fed-aligned Romulan can pick from any Human Female Tac when doing a 'Load Outfit', even from Federation Characters on your Account.
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  • ssbn655ssbn655 Member Posts: 1,894 Arc User
    ssbn655 wrote: »
    The thing that really inhales donkey nether regions is you can't dismiss Tovan! I hate that BOFF and their is really no reason once you finish the Romulan intro or hit LVL 50 to have him aboard. You have to keep Tovan a slot eating slug and sacrifice BOFF's you want or like because of him.
    Tovan is my shuttle pilot. I actually quite like having him there.
    Good for you but I still feel that he should be delatable! He is a slot eating slug!
  • officerbatman81officerbatman81 Member Posts: 2,761 Arc User
    Biggest regret was deleting D'Vex, i was too inexperienced to know what i was loosing.
  • wendysue53wendysue53 Member Posts: 1,569 Arc User
    ssbn655 wrote: »
    ssbn655 wrote: »
    The thing that really inhales donkey nether regions is you can't dismiss Tovan! I hate that BOFF and their is really no reason once you finish the Romulan intro or hit LVL 50 to have him aboard. You have to keep Tovan a slot eating slug and sacrifice BOFF's you want or like because of him.
    Tovan is my shuttle pilot. I actually quite like having him there.
    Good for you but I still feel that he should be delatable! He is a slot eating slug!

    well... with up to 54 Boff slots possible, what's the real complaint? Let it out now. You can tell us. :p
  • xyquarzexyquarze Member Posts: 2,120 Arc User
    wendysue53 wrote: »
    well... with up to 54 Boff slots possible, what's the real complaint? Let it out now. You can tell us. :p

    The real complaint is "why is there a limit?". I have one toon who is full. If a Lukari boff comes out (not unlikely), one will have to be reassigned . (The reason for this excessive amount is in his backstory. The others have still quite some room to spare)
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  • saber1973asaber1973a Member Posts: 1,225 Arc User
    Tovan got place in Romulan story plot, besides if i remember correctly, you can not dismiss any of the 1st BOFFs you get from story missions... personally i think the best mission BOFFs are D'Vex for Romulans and that Hierarchy Science/Intel one from Delta Arc... the rest are just between "usefull but nothing special" to "complete cr...p".
  • xyquarzexyquarze Member Posts: 2,120 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    Different strokes...

    For some people, the grind to lvl 50 could be weeks of time spent with certain characters and getting rid of them would be like getting rid old friends who stuck with you - it would destroy the immersive feel of the game to cast them aside. Given the investment some folks here have made in backstories and characters, I can see where it would be tough to throw one of these guys away.

    Similar here. With my first toons (one of each faction) I still thought the blue ones from doff missions were special and was mostly seeing "blue is better than green", so I had a team of four blues I did a lot of stuff with. Understanding the mechanics better, I still will NOT let go of them, even if they are just a pretty face in the boff roster without much action. Or not so pretty, since they also didn't get tailor settings back then... They will stick with me. (Okay, I purpled them up on one toon, didn't think it was worth the hassle for the others). Traits are nice, as warpangel said, but not necessary, so sometimes I will take one aboard, sometimes I won't.
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  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    D'Vex isn't very good. His space trait is slightly better than the pirate space trait but inferior to the Superior Romulan Operative trait. I wouldn't worry about it. Unless you're worried about collecting.
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  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    stee1max wrote: »
    OCD away, there is no point in keeping this trash in your roster (even this jerk Tovan, but no chance). By the end-game you will have a whole new team of SROs anyway, or as mentioned above, you can always shuffle visuals on those to your liking. Is it really worth a piece of extra clothing?

    Newcomers should really learn some basics of this game: everything sub level 50 is IRRELEVANT. You just grind your char level to at least 50 and then have mental concerns about your space barbies and builds.

    actually sub50 is some of the most fun content in the game for new players, and not everyone is a min/max obsessed jerk and not everyone gets a full load of SRO BOFF.... But every time I sell one for a few mill EC I laugh at those like you.
    These days, SRO's sell for 200,000 EC and less. Thanks to the fix to the doffing mission to acquire SRO's.
    When you see "TRIBBLE" in my posts, it's because I manually typed "TRIBBLE" and censored myself.
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    saber1973a wrote: »
    Tovan got place in Romulan story plot, besides if i remember correctly, you can not dismiss any of the 1st BOFFs you get from story missions... personally i think the best mission BOFFs are D'Vex for Romulans and that Hierarchy Science/Intel one from Delta Arc... the rest are just between "usefull but nothing special" to "complete cr...p".

    the fed and klingon ones CAN be dismissed. Tovan cannot, and we were told its because of his being integral to the plot. However players with account bound BOFF unlocks proved that to be utter BS when they were able to skip getting him ever and played the game just fine.
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • xyquarzexyquarze Member Posts: 2,120 Arc User
    the fed and klingon ones CAN be dismissed. Tovan cannot, and we were told its because of his being integral to the plot. However players with account bound BOFF unlocks proved that to be utter BS when they were able to skip getting him ever and played the game just fine.

    I do think there was a time where the "no disband" rule was in place for Elisa Flores and K'Gan, too. Certainly not the case anymore, if it was at all.
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  • rikwesselsrikwessels Member Posts: 367 Arc User
    saber1973a wrote: »
    Tovan got place in Romulan story plot, besides if i remember correctly, you can not dismiss any of the 1st BOFFs you get from story missions... personally i think the best mission BOFFs are D'Vex for Romulans and that Hierarchy Science/Intel one from Delta Arc... the rest are just between "usefull but nothing special" to "complete cr...p".


    the kobali comm/engineer you find in mission dust to dust is also quite good ..

  • discojerdiscojer Member Posts: 533 Arc User
    Toven has speaking parts when you do the Nimbus storyline.
    What irks me is you get stuck with him, but can't recruit his sister when you eventually find her, which seems rather obvious.
  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    xyquarze wrote: »
    the fed and klingon ones CAN be dismissed. Tovan cannot, and we were told its because of his being integral to the plot. However players with account bound BOFF unlocks proved that to be utter BS when they were able to skip getting him ever and played the game just fine.

    I do think there was a time where the "no disband" rule was in place for Elisa Flores and K'Gan, too. Certainly not the case anymore, if it was at all.
    There wasn't. It is and has always been all Tovan all the time.

    Alas, if you use the trick to get rid of Tovan, you can't reclaim him later either.
  • captainwellscaptainwells Member Posts: 718 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    azrael605 wrote: »
    One of my characters got rid of several of the lower quality starter boffs last night. For story purposes I going to say that Satra, Hiven, & Veril died in the Iconian War.

    I head canon this type of thing too. For the most part it makes no sense that you can rise to a fleet admiral (or comparable other faction role) and yet your loyal academy pals, etc. who all came along with you are somehow ridiculously stuck at Commander level; who came up with that dumb idea?


    Cryptic should have long ago adjusted that option to Captain and allowed you to promote some of them to command of those ships you accumulated previously for admiralty missions.
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