In my opinion , I think people who make fleets for their " personal use for bank " should not even be allowed at all in the game . They are bring selfish and taking the short cut on not buying the account bank slots in the Zen store ( which is not that much at all ) .
There should be a rule in the Terms about making fleets for personal use and prohibit that .
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tl:dr version for the attention span - impaired: Why you mad, bro?
I am still interested in hearing the rest of the story behind this thread.
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So to me it would seem the downside is greater than the upside for creating a fleet just to gain bank slots...
Actually early on we had overflow issues in our Fleet banks after maxing them out. so I created (with some of my allies from the main fleet) as an auxiliary fleet to handle any overflow including alts that people might want to rotate in an out of the main. It currently has one member to be book keeper, and is mostly just a sink for donations that won't fit into the main fleets project at the time. Thank the devs for the Armada system!
Even still it looks like, and is in existent fact, a solo fleet at this time. So the OP would like to see a mechanic imposed on those of us who wanted the auxiliary in the first place, that would take our support Fleet away, just because it has a single toon?
This is a case where I feel justified in saying to the OP, "mind your own business."
Unless solo fleets are somehow ruining the game for someone on more than an aesthetic level this complaint is ... well, pointless.
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I just said if your doing it solely to earn extra bank slots just for yourself you're likely to loose out more than gain not that I care if people choose to do that...
And this was long before any of the current Fleet functions were even thought of or added to the game.
I've also bought the Maximum number of Bank/Inventory slots for all of my toons except my current AoY one.
(including my Klingon toon who isn't even in a Fleet)
SO..., your reasoning for denying anybody a Fleet is nonsense, since you don't know the circumstances behind each and every STO player's thoughts or actions on this matter.
Why don't you get off that "High Horse" you rode in on..., and shove it where all the stars in the game, don't shine.
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OH, yeah, sorry, I could have done that post better.
I meant that you are right basically, It is a lot of extra trouble for just a vanity item, It should be useful to justify the effort to even get five people together.
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The more people in vanity Fleets, the fewer who are available to join a larger fleet and work together.
I don't care myself. IMHO the solo fleets are still good for Armadas to donate to, help players learn about Fleet mechanics where it only harms themselves if they make a big mistake, and then if they want to be more active, they may start recruiting for themselves.
Anyway, yeah, this isn't really even a topic imho and it should just fade away gently .......
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I've had to leave fleets where no matter how much you contributed the rules kept changing and it became clear that the leaders were favoring themselves and their closest buddies to the exclusion of everyone else. I have a fleet admiral who a couple of months in is still the bottom grunt level in one fleet despite active daily contributions that I've lost count of? I've left a couple that just seemed to be about spinning the wheel too.
The admiralty system, duty officer hauls, dilithium and energy credits I don't mind poneying up to fleet holdings daily. I also don't mind contributing stuff to the fleet bank, but thus far doing so seems utterly pointless to me.
On a different note, this weekend I was running my latest character [a Romulan] and getting slammed by the Elachi content something fierce. No matter how many pleas in chat on local or zone for aid, and also emails to a half dozen different fleets requesting membership went unheeded. I felt like I must have been the only one in that whole universe for the better part of 48 hours? I got through and completed Vengeance, but damn - just saying.
Also, if all you other guys actually need to have all the buyable slots plus a fleet bank to yourself, you must have a lot of stuff. What gives?
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Now you say that that's a pretty good idea I think I'm going to do that until I get more members