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T6 Sovie and T6 Nebula

admiralq1732admiralq1732 Member Posts: 1,561 Arc User
in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Glad to finally see these, HOWEVER. Still no saucer sep for Sovie or Phoenix skin for Nebula. What gives.

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  • zerokillcf2011zerokillcf2011 Member Posts: 545 Arc User
    Thought there was a Phoenix skin for Nebula? Round mission pod and all, two tall supports......
  • firstaid#5667 firstaid
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    Phoenix skin can be found in the advanced options in the ship customizer
  • admiralq1732admiralq1732 Member Posts: 1,561 Arc User
    cool, then they just need the saucer sep for Sovie.
  • firstaid#5667 firstaid
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    Specifically under 'Mission Pod' and 'Center Pylon'
  • nikephorusnikephorus Member Posts: 2,744 Arc User
    I've never seen any information anywhere that states the sovereign class can separate its saucer. There are phoenix parts in the ship customizer.
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  • firstaid#5667 firstaid
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    unfortunately not all ships in the game can use saucer separation and I don't think they are planning on giving the Soveriegn the ability.
  • zerokillcf2011zerokillcf2011 Member Posts: 545 Arc User
    The Sovy was never (in canon anyway) capable of saucer sep. But in expanded universe.....heck the tech manual claims the ORIGINAL NCC 1701 could do saucer sep in emergency. It's just it was a built in feature on the 1701D. I'm a canon guy, so short of the Ent-D (and subsequently the GalX) and the Prometheus, we never saw any other ships on screen do a separation. Or did I miss one?
  • admiralq1732admiralq1732 Member Posts: 1,561 Arc User
    zerokillcf2011 wrote: »
    The Sovy was never (in canon anyway) capable of saucer sep. But in expanded universe.....heck the tech manual claims the ORIGINAL NCC 1701 could do saucer sep in emergency. It's just it was a built in feature on the 1701D. I'm a canon guy, so short of the Ent-D (and subsequently the GalX) and the Prometheus, we never saw any other ships on screen do a separation. Or did I miss one?
    nikephorus wrote: »
    I've never seen any information anywhere that states the sovereign class can separate its saucer. There are phoenix parts in the ship customizer.



    John Eaves designed to be able to do so.
  • zerokillcf2011zerokillcf2011 Member Posts: 545 Arc User
    Still not canon. Didn't happen on screen, no reference to on screen. I get that isn't the sole decider for Cryptic, but they have to run everything by CBS....
  • admiralq1732admiralq1732 Member Posts: 1,561 Arc User
    zerokillcf2011 wrote: »
    Still not canon. Didn't happen on screen, no reference to on screen. I get that isn't the sole decider for Cryptic, but they have to run everything by CBS....

    Yet they made the Akira vasriant as a carrier and that was never seen on screen.
  • firstaid#5667 firstaid
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    edited December 2016
    admiralq1732 wrote: »
    zerokillcf2011 wrote: »
    Still not canon. Didn't happen on screen, no reference to on screen. I get that isn't the sole decider for Cryptic, but they have to run everything by CBS....

    Yet they made the Akira vasriant as a carrier and that was never seen on screen.

    I think that's because it's easier to make a ship capable of launching shuttles than it is to make it separate into two pieces. They would have to remake the in-game Sovereign model again in order to incorporate saucer separation because it doesn't have a modeled battle-bridge segment like the Galaxy
  • admiralq1732admiralq1732 Member Posts: 1,561 Arc User
    firstaid#5667 wrote: »
    admiralq1732 wrote: »
    zerokillcf2011 wrote: »
    Still not canon. Didn't happen on screen, no reference to on screen. I get that isn't the sole decider for Cryptic, but they have to run everything by CBS....

    Yet they made the Akira vasriant as a carrier and that was never seen on screen.

    I think that's because it's easier to make a ship capable of launching shuttles than it is to make it separate into two pieces. They would have to remake the in-game Sovereign model again in order to incorporate saucer separation because it doesn't have a modeled battle-bridge segment like the Galaxy

    They creat all these new ships and between the Galaxy X, Galaxy, and Promethoues i think they would have enough to make it.
  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,404 Arc User
    edited December 2016
    Well, it happens.
    Ships can't have all of their canon abilities or mentioned abilities for whatever reasons (like the massive cannon-like torpedo launchers of the Vengeance, which made me a bit sad).
    The Kelvin Connie saucer doesn't separate either despite the separation happening on-screen.
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  • admiralq1732admiralq1732 Member Posts: 1,561 Arc User
    saurializard wrote: »
    Well, it happens.
    Ships can't have all of their canon abilities or mentioned abilities for whatever reasons (like the massive cannon-like torpedo launchers of the Vengeance, which made me a bit sad).
    The Kelvin Connie saucer doesn't separate either despite the separation happening on-screen.

    but with all the tier variants this game is perfect to see it.
  • vegeta50024vegeta50024 Member Posts: 2,336 Arc User
    saurializard wrote: »
    Well, it happens.
    Ships can't have all of their canon abilities or mentioned abilities for whatever reasons (like the massive cannon-like torpedo launchers of the Vengeance, which made me a bit sad).
    The Kelvin Connie saucer doesn't separate either despite the separation happening on-screen.

    Kelvin Connie we have in game is based on Into Darkness. They didn't have permission to use ST Beyond yet.

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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    vegeta50024 wrote: »
    saurializard wrote: »
    Well, it happens.
    Ships can't have all of their canon abilities or mentioned abilities for whatever reasons (like the massive cannon-like torpedo launchers of the Vengeance, which made me a bit sad).
    The Kelvin Connie saucer doesn't separate either despite the separation happening on-screen.

    Kelvin Connie we have in game is based on Into Darkness. They didn't have permission to use ST Beyond yet.

    Well it's based on the ship from 09 and the majority of ID. Not the refit from the end of ID and BEY. Though I don't see any reason why one would be able to separate and the other not. The impulse array, pylon position, and nacelles were the only changes made between the two sub-types.​​
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    zerokillcf2011 wrote: »
    The Sovy was never (in canon anyway) capable of saucer sep. But in expanded universe.....heck the tech manual claims the ORIGINAL NCC 1701 could do saucer sep in emergency. It's just it was a built in feature on the 1701D. I'm a canon guy, so short of the Ent-D (and subsequently the GalX) and the Prometheus, we never saw any other ships on screen do a separation. Or did I miss one?
    Not sure if it was canon or not, but I heard somewhere that the version of saucer separation used by the TOS ships was not easily reversible and required returning to a shipyard to put it back together.
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    markhawkman wrote: »
    zerokillcf2011 wrote: »
    The Sovy was never (in canon anyway) capable of saucer sep. But in expanded universe.....heck the tech manual claims the ORIGINAL NCC 1701 could do saucer sep in emergency. It's just it was a built in feature on the 1701D. I'm a canon guy, so short of the Ent-D (and subsequently the GalX) and the Prometheus, we never saw any other ships on screen do a separation. Or did I miss one?
    Not sure if it was canon or not, but I heard somewhere that the version of saucer separation used by the TOS ships was not easily reversible and required returning to a shipyard to put it back together.

    It wasn't, considering the only canon separations were the Galaxy and the Prometheus in the PT.​​
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    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
    JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
    #TASforSTO


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    'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
    'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
    '...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
    'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
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  • kimonykimony Member Posts: 571 Arc User
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    Please, make it so.

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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,008 Arc User
    kimony wrote: »
    Please, make it so.

    Eeew. Nebulas aren't meant to separate. It's unnatural.

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  • alcyoneserenealcyoneserene Member Posts: 2,414 Arc User
    edited December 2016
    Gal-X > Odyssey > Sovereign, cause the former has both saucer separation ability and a hangar, followed by only Aquarius or Saucer separation (something that should have been unlocked to do both a long time ago, but still isn't), followed by nothing interesting to me other than a nice Regent skin.

    They should introduce some mirror universe Sovereign that can saucer separate.

    And talking about pets, I'm hoping they're still prioritizing fixes on separation units, as at the moment these are completely broken still as they vanish completely after separating. Flight deck pets still don't respond to commands either, and that's after at least 2 fix attempts. Pretty frustrating and disappointing really that such a basic feature has never been fixed in years.
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  • mkm1911#2674 mkm1911
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    edited December 2016
    Is this for PC? Don't recall seeing a news drop about new t6 ships coming on console.

    I'd like to see more Romulan and Klingon t6 ships. I still haven't found a Klingon equivalent of the T6 Defiant. The Kor BoP is supposed to be, but the lack of tactical BoF rank, console slots, and aft weapons leave it lacking for me.

    I don't get why my FoP allied Romulan can use a t4 Defiant but not a t6?
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