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skullblits
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I hear the Iconian set is best for a Ap build.
but was wondering what the vets think?
I know fleet stuff maybe better but that stuff is months away. any advice? thanks
but was wondering what the vets think?
I know fleet stuff maybe better but that stuff is months away. any advice? thanks
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The beam/DHC/console/torp set isn't that hot, unless you're looking for a tiny bit more tank that console and two-set gives.
Probably best secondary set (those made of weapons and consoles, and sometimes cores) for AP is the Ancient Obelisk Technology Set, which you can get the two pieces (core and omni beam) equip-able on all non-Warbird ships (core is A-M only) which gives a 10% of what players have termed 'Category 2' bonus damage, which multiplies your Cat. 1 sources like Tac consoles. Which makes that 10% a lot bigger on most ships than it first looks. (Other Cat. 2 sources will stack along side, being added to the total).
Actually, the Ancient Obelisk Technology Set is terribad. Never use that Core if you can help it! Yes, the maxed-out AP dmg looks nice... but look further. It's a pretty 'meh' Core (and that's being generous). And the Omni-beam is sub-meh, even (still usable, for when you want that second AP Omni-beam in aft, but, by and of itself, a lousy wep).
The Polymorph console is good for AP; and there's another one (whose name I just forgot), which gives +17% AP dmg + Energy dmg resists.
The new Temporal set (from the Temporal Rep) is interesting too, like the Temporal Defense Chroniton Beam Array + the Temporal Torp. Especially when used alongside the 'old' Chroniton Dual Beam Array. The latter, when used in conjuction with the ever present Tachyokinetic Converter (on my ships, at least), means, at long last, that the +27.4% Chroniton Projectile Weapon Damage (from the 2-piece bonus) comes to use (as the Temporal Torp is Chroniton-based).
You heard correctly
I know I won't get the full set bonus. but some of the borg stuff seems good
Still, I'd take into account that the 3-Piece Iconian Bonus seems quite nice before going on to mix and match other parts/sets.
normal, like in white or common?
crafted then upgraded them to epic
had pen and stuff for stats
I crafted them and got very rare mostly. I had hundreds of the lock box upgrades and there's a tech upgrade event. they all have good stats
It is possible to go from Common Mk II to Epic Mk XIV, but most people would craft Very Rare Mk II and upgrade it to Epic. Although I think what they mean by normal is the standard antiproton weapons and not ones from a lockbox or reputation store.
As for AP weapons, Fleet versions with the Dmgx3 mod are pretty good, but they're expensive to upgrade.
I bought a full set of low level Epic (Dmgx2)(Pen) beams, when the market was flooded with them. They were much cheaper to get to Mk14, too!
[CrtD]x2 [Dmg] [Pen]
or
[CrtD] [Dmg]x2 [Pen]
Both can be easily found around in beam arrays and DBB's at Mk VII/VIII so they'll require an upgrade. They also sell for around 3-4 million a piece. That's nothing in 2016 STO.
What I am trying to say that you can create very solid builds by combining and mixing different gear that increase targeted areas that you want to boost. For example, by using the Iconian set you may forego boosts to things like Drain Expertise, EPS, power levels and so forth.
Of course, it depends on what you really want to boost and if none of these things are currently your concern then using a set is not such a bad idea. But normally the abovementioned things can suffer significantly by using set bonuses, simply because that gear may lack those boosting properties.
The combination and mixing of gear may include the use of crafted, fleet, Lobi and reputation gear. Don't feel forced to use one or the other exclusively.
I am using antiproton gear and I barely have any set bonuses at all. The 2-set bonus that I do have gives me 17+ Drain Expertise and Shield Capacity, and this was merely a coincidence. When I picked my gear I did not set out to get those bonuses.
Iconian Deflector
Romulan Engines
Terran Warp Core
Rainbow Build with Beam Tac consoles.
Several use Iconian 4/4. One Antiproton-based captain that uses 3/4 Iconian plus ancient Omni/warp core combo for the 10% cat2 bonus.
My Tholian Tarantula is very Tholian themed and runs all Nukara.
My most tricked out ship runs deflector & warp core from Counter Command with impulse & shields from Nukara.
Damnant quod non intelligunt! The Obelisk Core simply isn't very good. Period. Not because I say so, but simply because it isn't. Don't stare yourself blind on that maxed out AP dmg (you were going to get there with [Amp] anyway). There are so much better Cores: Elite Spire, Rep Cores, and those that make up a Rep set (with all the bonuses thereof: a process often disturbed by the presence of the Obelisk Core). And, like I said, you can still fit the Ancient Omni-beam when you simply need a second Omni in aft (mostly always better than a turret). But it really is a mistake to focus on that 2-piece set bonus of the Obelisk set, and to then ignore the rest.
N.B. And yes, I have the full Obelisk set at Epic. Sometimes, however, you need to accept you made a mistake (like when I upgraded that Core back when), and move on to greener pastures. Or prove me wrong.
Oh, I see the problem, you're used to when [Amp] was bugged and over-preforming. Each stack of [Amp] was buffing the other stacks, giving it much larger numbers than it should have been doing. [Amp] is now one 3.3% Cat. 1 per subsystem over 75, which is nothing nowadays. 10% Cat. 2 is much larger than 13.2% Cat. 1 for most ships, since each Category adds together and then multiplies with other damage Categories.
Worth noting is that most of those aren't available on consoles (as in PS4/XB1) in practical terms (many exist technically but few will have leveled enough to get them), and I think the OP might be a console player.
No offense, but I think you still don't get it.
Didn't realize he was a console player. Though I believe the OP just said he's gonna get the Iconian set. Good choice.
Ship seemed VERY under powered and even squishy.
YMMV but I'm sticking with my old stuff.
I had to even look up what a Hyper-Capacitor Shield Array was... then I saw... then I posted. Then I decided not to say anything further. :P
Ico Marks are the easiest to get
You just need to spam BROTHERHOOD OF THE SWORD ELITE
It is one of those missions, that gear is not that important. You just need to know timing, especially WHEN TO PRESS THAT BUTTON!!!!
I wouldn't say they're "useless" for everything. I use the Core and Omni on my alt's small craft because I can run those, the AP torp I picked up for them all from the phoenix packs (Beats the meh torp I used before on them), and a 3 piece set from a mission (usually the Kobali 3 piece since I don't have the ship for the core and I'm grinding out reps for my main ships on them all) and they're pretty tanky and do decent damage. Since we have such a limited amount of small craft missions as it is the 2 piece on the core/omni is plenty powerful enough just to fly around and have fun with since I don't really need to stick a full rep set on a small craft to clear any mission with ease.
I'm an Engineer if that helps.
Strongest shield in the game.
Only use the HCSA special carefully as it really depletes the shields.
I was puzzled as well seeing the Iconian set is billed so high. I will experiment with it again as it might just be the new Intel Assault Cruiser's fault.
( I am working on all the new ship masteries. )