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A Heg'ta Heavy bird of prey
Tier six
Warriors 100- I know they disabled crew for good reasons, but its still goes to the heart of a ship.
Base turn rate 21
Impulse Modifier 0.2
Hull Strength 37k
Consoles- 4 tac 4 eng 4 science
Fore weapon slots- 6
Aft weapon slots-1
Regular Battle cloak
Starship traits should be a buff on kinetic damage resists, and shield regen
Art- I would have done my own art, but I have no idea what program would have been good for that. So Just use the old Hegh'ta model
Bridge officer slots universal Lt commander, Lt Commander, Commander, and LT
Scatter volley, torpedo spread, science aoe dps abilities, and beam aoe abilities will not be allowed to work on this Bird of prey.
No special console for this variant.
So what do you guys think? It would make this ship a warriors ship. You would have insane point to point damage in the fore section, but no cheap shots of mass aoes. You would have enough kinetic resist and hull strength to take a pounding but not so much that your overpowering. The four eng and science consoles should help with survival
Tier six
Warriors 100- I know they disabled crew for good reasons, but its still goes to the heart of a ship.
Base turn rate 21
Impulse Modifier 0.2
Hull Strength 37k
Consoles- 4 tac 4 eng 4 science
Fore weapon slots- 6
Aft weapon slots-1
Regular Battle cloak
Starship traits should be a buff on kinetic damage resists, and shield regen
Art- I would have done my own art, but I have no idea what program would have been good for that. So Just use the old Hegh'ta model
Bridge officer slots universal Lt commander, Lt Commander, Commander, and LT
Scatter volley, torpedo spread, science aoe dps abilities, and beam aoe abilities will not be allowed to work on this Bird of prey.
No special console for this variant.
So what do you guys think? It would make this ship a warriors ship. You would have insane point to point damage in the fore section, but no cheap shots of mass aoes. You would have enough kinetic resist and hull strength to take a pounding but not so much that your overpowering. The four eng and science consoles should help with survival
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... I like the cut of your jib!
Not sure I would go with a clearly sub-standard Boff layout. Go for 2Cmdr/1Ltcm/1Lt. Also, all Raiders must have Tactical Maneuvers from now on, or they are a failure.
It's a bad design because it's pure Mary Sue, worse than the Scimitar; that at least "played by the rules" for the most part, just picking the absolute optimum possible mix for damage. By contrast, this "proposal" breaks two current maximum limite; 6 forward weapons and 12 consoles. That, in context, is a bigger jump than going from T5 to T6. Moving to in-universe considerations, there's no reason a raider would occupy that position in the Klingon fleet. While there is a very sound case that a 6-forward gun ship is exactly what the Klingons would build, the candidate with precedent would be a heavy battlecruiser of some sort (like the Negh'Var in series). Conceptually, the original Bortasqu' tactical cruiser was this - a 5-tac-console, DHC gunboat with a massively powerful forward gun. Heck, that could actually work if you built it as a "siege gun" ship that traded eye-watering firepower for borked mobility.
*Any* ship design which works on the principle of "make everything else obsolete" is pure rubbish; not even the T6 23C ships do that (and yes, that is how a lot of people view the Scimitars; two wrongs do not make a right). I submit that you're just trolling, in which case I'm happy to oblige in this instance.
Just to clear something up. I know my words can be harsh on the forums, but that is because of who I am. I despise and hate people who play politics, kiss TRIBBLE, never speak plainly, and twist someones words to there own agenda. This is why when I post I try to be as forthcoming and blunt as possible. I think sometimes people assume I am trolling, but that is not the case.
Glad to see we are back on track with overpowered ship designs! Cryptic will have to invent some Strategist BoFF powers though.
The idea of surgical precision appeals to me. Not sure why you are against 5/1 layouts. If the idea is to throw everything at the target in front of you, why not be efficient about it? Put all the pointy bits on the front. Stop mucking around with turrets or omni beams.
Anyway; to drop back, I don't think that deliberately pushing an OP design has any value beyond annoying people. There have been many interesting threads about what a T6 "heavy raider" would look like - both command and intel seating would offer interesting options.
I understand we all have bad days. I hear you it was a brain storm of sorts, of what would be a good design for a ship, that was described as bringing ever lasting death to the enemies of the Empire. Your point on the threads is well taken. Ill keep my eye out next time.
You again how many troll posts did you post tonight?
The Ouroboros is 4/2, and has the Temporal powers, but's still outclassed by the D4x. The D4x has a 5/1 weapons layout and Tactical Maneuvers. The D7 is a battlecruiser, so you should be comparing it to the Kurak/Fleet Kurak, not to a Raider.
The Klingons currently have the BEST Raider in the game. I mean, it's cool to just brainstorm and have fun, but I'm having a difficult time taking you seriously.
Well it was a simple brain storm. As for temporal, I am referring to the temporal raider tier six one. Well as for the weapons one could say the same thing about the scimitar. Before its release no cruiser had that many forward weapons. At any rate it was a simple brain storm. Not much I can say beyond this point. If you look above other people have agreed with your point of view, and I noted that they made good solid points.
Its a decent start. You'd just need to break it down in to different setups, i.e. Tac, Engi and Sci. But lets see what we can do with it.
Crew, not that important any more. But one can keep that just for nostalgia.
So lets starts at with the first thing people will look at. Boff Seating.
Com Uni/Pilot, Lt Comm Uni, Lt Com Uni, Lt Uni/Intel or Com
For the 5 seater
Com Uni/Pilot, Lt Com Uni, Lt Uni/Intel or Com, Lt Uni, En Uni
Hull: 35, 200
Shield Mod - .85
Weapons - 5/1 or 4/2. Can use Dual Cannons.
Consoles:
Tac: 5 - 5
Eng: 3 - 4
Sci: 3 - 2
Turn rater; 21
Inertia: .8
Impulse Mod: .2
Device Slots 2
Bonus Power: +10 Weapons, +10 Engine, could go with +15 Weapons, +5 Engines.
Abilities: Battle Cloak. Though an Enhanced Battle Cloak is possible.
[Console - Universal - Subtle Shadow] +500 Starship Stealth. Immunity to Sensor Scan and stealth debuffs for 10 seconds.
Immunity to [Console - Universal - Ionized Gas Sensor]
2min CD
Mastery
I - Precise Weapons System
II - Tactical maneuvering
III - Enhanced Weapons Systems
IV - Enhanced Weapons Bank
V- Continuous Fire - Extends Cannon - Rapid Fire by 4 seconds.
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> I'm amazed that this game has not accounted for the K'vort class Bird of Prey battlecruiser. If it has, I haven't seen it.
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> Get yourself a B'Rel, and pretend that it's bigger
BWAAAA HAA HAA HAAA HAAA HAAAA! :D
A Bird of Prey that is also a Battlecruiser? Seems legit for this thread!
A 5/3 ship with Universal BoFF seating, Battlecloak, and Tactical Manuvers!
4/2 weapon loadout
Commander, 2 LTC, 1 Ensign, all Universal
3/2/4 Console layout
Regular Battle Cloak
A newer Ning'tao rolling out would be nice as well.