test content
What is the Arc Client?
Install Arc

Would you like the option to play the original Borg STF story missions?

o0kami87o0kami87 Member Posts: 590 Arc User
I have to push to have the original Borg stf missions restored back to STO from way back when the went from the space ground space story to the now two parters they are. As it stands now the Borg STF's have standard and advanced where other rep missions have an elite option as well. So I am curious, would anyone else like to see the original missions brought back (and difficulty changed to match an elite level) as an elite STF option?
First, Vice Admiral, U.S.S. Wolf Pack-F, NX-101687-FFirst., Vice Admiral, A.R.W. Moon WolfWolf, I.K.S. Frost Bite

Would you like the option to play the original Borg STF story missions? 49 votes

Yes
79%
f9thretxcscififan78garaks31alexraptorrmattjohnsonvaarliekkoskikskengradiigerwalk0769sunfrancksanazondamarkhawkmanconkav22salazarrazerelicthiefalcyonesereneo0kami87marokkrellkavaseasuran14 39 votes
No
20%
rangerryur5e4w3q2kodachikunoazrael605somtaawkharsnoggymack22spotter5xyquarzeakaar2centricity 10 votes
«1

Comments

  • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,943 Arc User
    if not as an normal/advanced/elite stf, as a playable episode arc
    sig.jpg
  • misterferengi#8959 misterferengi Member Posts: 486 Arc User
    Yes
    I never got the opportunity to play them back in the day as I could never find a team, and when I did, due to the time they took players would end up dropping out.
    It would make an interesting FE rather than PvE and I wouldn't mind sampling them in the old format.
  • alexraptorralexraptorr Member Posts: 1,192 Arc User
    Yes
    I want the Original ones back with Unique and Exclusive rewards as they originally had, a proper full length Raid/Instance
    "If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it's not for the timid." - Q
  • This content has been removed.
  • orondisorondis Member Posts: 1,447 Arc User
    Yes.

    The problem of course is that power creep will make it insanely easy.
    Previously Alendiak
    Daizen - Lvl 60 Tactical - Eclipse
    Selia - Lvl 60 Tactical - Eclipse
  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    Yes
    It would be nice to have the option of running the old style story with a team of friends.
    When you see "TRIBBLE" in my posts, it's because I manually typed "TRIBBLE" and censored myself.
  • asuran14asuran14 Member Posts: 2,335 Arc User
    Yes
    Hell I would not mind this as something of a rep-based mission you could pick up to play thru certain stfs, and then hand it in for mark/elite marks/dil/ec, and even get some other unique rewards based on the rep associated. I think this as well the player base is pretty well entrenched in the payout for time mindset over the experience of playing the content, and so I think yo would need to make sure that the payout is adjusted to make it worth the time to do, while also giving some unique rep-associated rewards that would entice the players to do such a thing. It would not be worth the dev's time to bring them back an do a that would need to be done, for only a small part of the playerbase to enjoy them, compared to spending that same time on doing something that more of the playerbase could enjoy instead.
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,693 Arc User
    No.

    The original Borg STFs represented everything one could do wrong with instances/dungeons/raids. Which is why almost no one ever completed them, and why Crytpic split them up in the first place.

    However, it could be cool to see shorted down versions of them made into playable missions as part of the Borg Advance story arc. It seems kinda silly that we get as far as destroying the small Borg unicomplex in fluidic space with Tuvok in story missions, but we never get an actual mission to stop the borg queen, and end the invasion, in an actual story mission.

    That's a good idea. The Borg are a looming threat to the quadrant ... then we stop caring about them forever.
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    No
    I vote no. The story's still there in pieces in its current state. And the content is six years old. Leave it be. The entire metaplot has moved so far past this stuff that to restore things to what they were would be more confusing than the exploration maps they got rid of (for confusing players).
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • This content has been removed.
  • o0kami87o0kami87 Member Posts: 590 Arc User
    Yes
    While I appreciate the idea of the original missions being shortened down and placed in the story arc it kinda defeats the purpose in my eyes. The Borg story line despite the advances is still more or less intact with the exception of the old stfs where key elements got lost in the split and yet while the Borg are supposed to be this incredible force in the story line by the time you get to it they are really laughable. Besides that the challenge in the game was lost, okay so the missions took a while, and it got frustrating when you had people that refused to play as a team. But, when I got that good team and pushed through it I really felt like I accomplished something. Some of my best sto friends I made in those missions and now it's gotten to where I will log on to play new content then get bored again and leave till more content comes out because PWE seems intent on this dumbing down and everyone gets a trophy idea. That's not fun to me, I want to struggle, I want to get frustrated, go back to the drawing board, find where me and my team can change our tactics to better suit the mission, accomplish something.
    First, Vice Admiral, U.S.S. Wolf Pack-F, NX-101687-FFirst., Vice Admiral, A.R.W. Moon WolfWolf, I.K.S. Frost Bite
  • casualstocasualsto Member Posts: 672 Arc User
    Yes
    Adding them too. But we're waiting eager for new Borg content. Since the revamping of the episodes just finished the revamp part of Dominion War, the Borg arc is next. So we might also expect some new Borg-related content. Which would be amazing, as far as most of the players just do ISA to get their DPS in check or to do daily mark-to-dil conversion.
  • This content has been removed.
  • asuran14asuran14 Member Posts: 2,335 Arc User
    Yes
    Honestly I think a revamp/update to the borg going into the arc abit more could work now most of all. You have all of these derelict, and still yet powerful vessels from the Vaadwaur to the iconians that made the borg look weak floating around. I could see a expanded story arc that would tie in with the omega rep detailing how they found the borg have been scavenging these hulks assimilating their technology, and the group are asking us to come in andeal with this issue as it is ooutstripping thier own capbabilities now.
      Borg update concept
    • I could see a story arc that centered on the omega rep-faction, and their dealings with the borg as they discover their now assimilating the much more advanced wreckage of enemies we had been fighting like the Vaadwaur and Iconians. I mean honestly are we thinking the Borg the scavengers of the universe would not see these advanced vessels, and even races (think of a assimilated Vaadwaur or Herald.), and not seek them out to adapt an rebuild themselves thru attaining greater technology.
    • I could also see the borg with their new assimilated systems going back to how they were in the show, and how they work on ground, as they would have most likely now adapted technology that is vastly more advanced than the current factions have. So i could see them using a sort of buff based system, in which when they are attacked with energy weapons they gain a stacking resistance buff to the energy type damaging them. While I could see also a stacking buff that improves their bleed-thru on the type of shield they are hitting the most (like coverient or regenerative.). Just would need to tie in some abilities that could be used to negate, reduce, or remove these buffs an debuff to make the borg more interesting to fight.
    • I could see a update to the older borg stfs that is about these upgraded borg now seeking to reclaim what they lost with their new technology, while also giving us access to new omega rep projects as well that need a new form of elite mark. It woud also make for a nice filler till brand new content hits without them having to rush out that new content.
  • This content has been removed.
  • thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot Member Posts: 4,545 Arc User
    I would like to see if my ship and crew as they are right now would be good enough to stand against the old space-ground-space Borg STFs. The biggest problem would be the length of them, I think. It would definitely be something to look forward to all week.
    A six year old boy and his starship. Living the dream.
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    No
    o0kami87 wrote: »
    while the Borg are supposed to be this incredible force in the story line by the time you get to it they are really laughable.

    That's just it, though, they're not supposed to be some incredible force in the STO story. They never really were. When the game launched, they were in the TUTORIAL.

    One of the themes about the Vega colony and the borg that show up is that they're different. The Federation has advanced quite a bit and these borg just aren't what they used to be.

    The players keep trying to treat them like they are the apex alpha villain of Star Trek. But the STO storyline moved on to the Undine, who beat the snot out of the borg time and time again. Then the Voth came, and took it right to the Undine (and the Borg). Then the Iconians got involved. And now the Sphere Builders. The Borg are very far down the pecking order in this game's plot and we've all moved past them.

    Borg Disconnected is probably the best map example of why the Borg don't need any more revamps or power ups or buffing or tweaks ever again.

    Like my Voth homies say when their bulwark arrives, "You will be eliminated!" ... or my Undine peeps, "The weak shall perish!" ...

    The borg on the other hand, all the queen has to say for herself is, "The collective will not fall here."

    That's right. That's your incredible force in the storyline ... tucking and tail and running from some extradimensional psionic fish species and some dinosaurs.

    Let the Borg go. STO did years ago.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • This content has been removed.
  • scififan78scififan78 Member Posts: 1,383 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    Yes
    As much as I agree that the Borg "threat" is no longer there, I do miss the old story driven STF missions. I would love to see them come back, even if it were just as an addition to the regular Borg story arc. Especially loved the Invinciborg.
    Post edited by scififan78 on
  • mas134gluck123mas134gluck123 Member Posts: 302 Arc User
    maybe, tho not sure
  • asuran14asuran14 Member Posts: 2,335 Arc User
    Yes
    I can agree with the fact that as a villain, or rather the main big villain, that star trek has moved on from the Borg. Yet I don't think that is a good reason to say that they could not come back into prominence as many things do, and with how the Borg work they are pretty much a definition of a recurring nightmare/villain. We see this fact in many things where a villain or group that the hero's/characters had defeated in the past reappear later on after the character's had focused other places, and time had passed allowing them to change an improve. Actually the idea of villains are something that you move on from an never see again after their defeat is quite weird, and makes all villains than feel disposable road bumps over adversaries.

    I actually feel that re-using these older villains that have come an gone in the story arc, or in mini-arcs during the midway part of the expansion could be a nice idea. As to me the story arc of the expansions, but also the villains that are associated with those story arcs, are getting churned out so fast that they feel rushed an much less developed. Which is part of the fact of content locus that eat thru content, and proceed to demand/seek out more content to process thru. Now using the older/prior villains that might make appearances in something like a mid expansion release could allow the devs the time to further develop the content an story by giving us content/updates focused on these older/prior villains.
  • jorantomalakjorantomalak Member Posts: 7,133 Arc User
    id rather see the borg get revamped back into the big bads they should be, not the whipping posts they have become
  • This content has been removed.
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    No
    id rather see the borg get revamped back into the big bads they should be, not the whipping posts they have become

    After the Undine, Voth, Kobali, Vaaduwar, and Iconians have shown that they can be a much bigger threat than the Borg, I'd rather we find some new stuff to focus on as big bads, so the story and all the factions can find new life and new civilizations and we can boldly go into new adventures against new foes, which no one has seen before.

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • pappy02upappy02u Member Posts: 141 Arc User
    Yes
    I say yes. Then if they make them "Elite" maybe that will fix the broken accolades and I can get those outfits for my Deltas and AoYs. Plus I always thought they were fun.
  • This content has been removed.
  • gerwalk0769gerwalk0769 Member Posts: 1,095 Arc User
    Yes
    o0kami87 wrote: »
    I have to push to have the original Borg stf missions restored back to STO from way back when the went from the space ground space story to the now two parters they are. As it stands now the Borg STF's have standard and advanced where other rep missions have an elite option as well. So I am curious, would anyone else like to see the original missions brought back (and difficulty changed to match an elite level) as an elite STF option?

    I'd actually like a weekend to play pulled missions like Starbase 24 Rescue, Foxes and Hounds, and DS9 Under Siege!

    Joined STO in September 2010.
  • This content has been removed.
  • akaar2akaar2 Member Posts: 67 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    No
    This just brings up bad memories from the past.
    In addition to what those against it have said, there were also forum flame posts about 'hardcore players' vs 'casual players' and those post got ugly imho.
    Many 'casual players' back then felt they were being treated badly by the 'hardcore players' during the stf's. A small few of the the 'Hardcore players' thought that the 'casual players' shouldn't even play the stf's. Some of the 'casual players' felt that because they couldn't commit the time to the longer stf's the were missing out on story content as well as rewards.
    And so, now the stf's are what they are.
    If I may borrow a line from Planet of the Apes..."we are here and it is now"



    Post edited by akaar2 on
  • gerwalk0769gerwalk0769 Member Posts: 1,095 Arc User
    Yes
    That's a good idea. The Borg are a looming threat to the quadrant ... then we stop caring about them forever.
    A sad artifact from the early days of STO unfortunately.

    When the borg content was the end game content, and after doing the story missions you were supposed to do infected -> Cure -> Khitomer, to round out the Borg story, and then do "Into the Hive" to finish it out.

    Into the Hive was introduced in Season 7. Before that the in game content was just the Cure, Infected and Khitomer.
    Joined STO in September 2010.
Sign In or Register to comment.