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~What is Incoming Hull Healing?

officerbatman81officerbatman81 Member Posts: 2,761 Arc User
in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Is it healing you give to yourself or healing you receive from other ships?

Because i believe I read somewhere that outgoing hull healing is where you heal other ships, so I thought incoming would be from other ships as well.

Can you provide a link, screenshots, or something to support your answer please.

Thank you.

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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,582 Community Moderator
    As far as I know... it is any heal you recieve. Outgoing is healing others, but as far as I know there is nothing saying that healing yourself isn't considered incoming.
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  • lordsteve1lordsteve1 Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    I think CLR records self healing as "heals in" doesn't it? So that would mean the only thing that is not an incoming heal would be the obvious ones where you target it at something else.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    As far as I know... it is any heal you recieve. Outgoing is healing others, but as far as I know there is nothing saying that healing yourself isn't considered incoming.
    Actually, as far as I know... outgoing is healing you do, it might or might not be other players. Incoming is any heal that is applied to you, might be done by you or an ally.
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    markhawkman wrote: »
    rattler2 wrote: »
    As far as I know... it is any heal you recieve. Outgoing is healing others, but as far as I know there is nothing saying that healing yourself isn't considered incoming.
    Actually, as far as I know... outgoing is healing you do, it might or might not be other players. Incoming is any heal that is applied to you, might be done by you or an ally.

    That's the way I've understood it, too. Basically, healing yourself counts as both.
  • officerbatman81officerbatman81 Member Posts: 2,761 Arc User
    The reason i asked is because of the Temporal ships have the molecular abilities and one of which is "defensive configuration" which includes +20% incoming hull healing. Was wondering if this is only a +20% boost from when others heal you, which is fairly rare thus fairly useless, or when i hit one of my tray or boff abilities or a trait procs.

    Thanks for the replies.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,582 Community Moderator
    officerbatman81 wrote: »
    The reason i asked is because of the Temporal ships have the molecular abilities and one of which is "defensive configuration" which includes +20% incoming hull healing. Was wondering if this is only a +20% boost from when others heal you, which is fairly rare thus fairly useless, or when i hit one of my tray or boff abilities or a trait procs.

    Thanks for the replies.

    This is one of the reasons why I'm not sure on the meaning of incoming. Because people rarely heal others, so why have something that buffs incoming when most of the time you're gonna solo or everyone's looking out for themselves? It it was meant to encourage it... I don't see it happening. Especially when the mentality around here is mostly "don't need a heal if the enemy is already dead".
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    Yang Xiao Long wrote:
    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
  • jonathanlonehawkjonathanlonehawk Member Posts: 674 Arc User
    Easy way to find out: Turn on the ability, heal yourself with ET see how much it is. Turn off the ability, heal yourself with ET and see the difference.
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  • borticuscrypticborticuscryptic Member Posts: 2,478 Cryptic Developer
    Outgoing Healing: Heals that you activate (including those that target self)
    Incoming Healing: Heals that you receive (including from yourself)

    Yes, you read that right - you can double-dip if all that you're doing is healing yourself.
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  • entnx01entnx01 Member Posts: 549 Arc User
    borticuscryptic wrote: »
    Outgoing Healing: Heals that you activate (including those that target self)
    Incoming Healing: Heals that you receive (including from yourself)

    Yes, you read that right - you can double-dip if all that you're doing is healing yourself.

    To make sure I understand...would Hazard Emitters on one's self be both Outgoing (you activate) and Incoming (you receive) at the same time?
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    borticuscryptic wrote: »
    Outgoing Healing: Heals that you activate (including those that target self)
    Incoming Healing: Heals that you receive (including from yourself)

    Yes, you read that right - you can double-dip if all that you're doing is healing yourself.

    oh nice! :D thanks for the info!
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  • lordsteve1lordsteve1 Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    entnx01 wrote: »
    borticuscryptic wrote: »
    Outgoing Healing: Heals that you activate (including those that target self)
    Incoming Healing: Heals that you receive (including from yourself)

    Yes, you read that right - you can double-dip if all that you're doing is healing yourself.

    To make sure I understand...would Hazard Emitters on one's self be both Outgoing (you activate) and Incoming (you receive) at the same time?

    Yes.

    It's outgoing because you are sending it somewhere. But it's also incoming because it just so happens to be sent to your hull. Crazy really but i'm not complaining!
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,582 Community Moderator
    Thanks for the clarification Bort!
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    Yang Xiao Long wrote:
    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
  • crypticspartan#0627 crypticspartan
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    entnx01 wrote: »
    borticuscryptic wrote: »
    Outgoing Healing: Heals that you activate (including those that target self)
    Incoming Healing: Heals that you receive (including from yourself)

    Yes, you read that right - you can double-dip if all that you're doing is healing yourself.

    To make sure I understand...would Hazard Emitters on one's self be both Outgoing (you activate) and Incoming (you receive) at the same time?

    If you cast a heal on yourself it will benefit from both outgoing healing boosts and incoming healing boosts.
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    wow two devs, 1 thread and within an hour an change of each other....


    STO miracles do occur o.o
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,661 Arc User
    Thanks for the clarifications -- I had no idea about the double-dipping.
  • officerbatman81officerbatman81 Member Posts: 2,761 Arc User
    @borticuscryptic
    Thank you, i appreciate you!
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