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So one thing about the Romulan Storyline that I don't get, Lore-wise.

jaymadiv#8056 jaymadiv Member Posts: 55 Arc User
why did Tovan decide to leave all the decision-making to me?

I know, Player Character plot armor mumbo-jumbo.

besides that, lore-wise, he's the combat trained and experienced one, and he's the one who knows how to operate the ship, I'm just a dude trying to escape before the Tal Shiar blows everything up. by the time I get there, it's basically his ship. why does he decide to just give the ship to me and let me call all the shots, instead of him being the Leader himself?

I don't think the Romulan PC was a Leader in any way, shape, or form on that Colony, unless I missed something. I don't recall seeing anything that suggested that the PC had any kind of leadership role.

then all of a sudden he's standing in front of the Romulan Republic, Commander Temer and Tovan's all like "he's the boss, not me. btw you seen my sister?".

what did I miss here?
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,690 Arc User
    Everyone in the colony seemed to depend on me to solve their problems, so apparently I was more than just "farmer A."

    I don't recall my character's background being covered in any detail -- as in, was I a militia leader? did I have any past experience before joining the colony? Did I have a lightning bolt scar to mark me as the Chosen One?
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    The Chosen One emits a unique particle that is easily detectable by 24th Century technology. That is how they choose which new graduates get to command a ship even though there are better qualified individuals. Your Romulan character emitted this unique particle while Tovan didn't so that is why Tovan left all the decision making to your character.
  • gbw2318gbw2318 Member Posts: 126 Arc User
    You can somewhat decide your character's background when talking with the colony's storyteller, D'Ral, in the main square. She asks about your background and you're given multiple choices. It can be possible that you have a lot more military experience than Tovan. Besides that, yeah, it does appear that the colony will break down uncontrollably without you. You start out waking up from a nap and the fields have nearly been destroyed.
  • emacsheadroomemacsheadroom Member Posts: 994 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    Here's your answer:

    https://youtu.be/fQiaSIisqMI
  • irm1963irm1963 Member Posts: 682 Arc User
    When you talk to the wifie in the marketplace, you can choose between being a native of Virinat, someone who joined later or a former Romulan Navy crewman IIRC. Gives you some space to work with.

    Besides, Tovan's simply a good soldier not a leader. That's our job :)
  • irm1963irm1963 Member Posts: 682 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    [someone make a delete function please :P]

  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,473 Arc User
    My Rom is Tovan Khev. You see, the spatiotemporal rift in the Azure Nebula has inadvertently scattered Tovan Khevs from a number of quantum universes throughout this one. My Tovan Khev believes he's the one who's native to this universe; he has taken it as a personal mission to gather as many Tovans (and Rinnas) aboard his ship as possible.

    Not all the Khevs are identical, of course - for instance, the Tovan we found on Gasko Station is a scientist, who was trying to rescue his "brother" (it's a long story) from the horrors of the station's medbay, and one of the Rinnas, who works as the chief engineer of RRW Tovan Khev XIV, is a Reman (she goes by Rinna NotKhev).​​
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  • kikskenkiksken Member Posts: 664 Arc User
    Actually, all the above is idiocy.
    See, it's the Q, that's just pulling a prank on you.
    And other poor 'hero's' like you.

    Another well accepted theory is, you're still in a holostory...
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    They just get less sober.
  • seriousdaveseriousdave Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    At Viriniat because he knows how to pilot that old ship (D'vex showed him) and "we" don't so while he sits at the helm someone has to play captain.
    And after that because he's smart. When we meet Temer he seeks a poster boy for his group that stands at the foremost front against the empire & tal'shiar and will most likely end up as numero uno on their hit list.
    So Thovan just points at us, says "that guy" and walks out.
  • commanderkassycommanderkassy Member Posts: 1,005 Arc User
    He's a beta.
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    It's pretty much this hard to keep just one timeline intact. ♪
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    I guess there is something in your background or your mannerism that makes you a leader personality.

    My characters have very different backgrounds. One is a Vorta clone - of an operative - that was activated accidentally and refused to kill herself and tries to kinda redeem herself for disobeying the Gods.
    Another is a Romulan that had served the Romulan Navy half a century ago, but had settled down with a family and all. When the Hobus event happened, she lost everyone she ever held dear - but she couldn't stand by idly, and eventually ended up on Virinat, helping the colonists.

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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    Because the player character is an invincible Time Lord-Superman hybrid and Tovan's just an ordinary joe shmoe.
  • commanderkassycommanderkassy Member Posts: 1,005 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    I guess there is something in your background or your mannerism that makes you a leader personality.

    My characters have very different backgrounds. One is a Vorta clone - of an operative - that was activated accidentally and refused to kill herself and tries to kinda redeem herself for disobeying the Gods.
    Another is a Romulan that had served the Romulan Navy half a century ago, but had settled down with a family and all. When the Hobus event happened, she lost everyone she ever held dear - but she couldn't stand by idly, and eventually ended up on Virinat, helping the colonists.

    Next, you need one that had his village burn down when he was a kid. He was saved by his kindly grandfather, who taught him the ways of the sword. As an adult, he seeks to fulfill his vow of revenge on those who destroyed everything he held dear! He's the chosen one though, so he totally wins.
    ♪ I'm going around not in circles but in spirographs.
    It's pretty much this hard to keep just one timeline intact. ♪
  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,473 Arc User
    I did have one for a while who'd served with the Imperial Fleet until she ran across Hakeev early in the latter's career. She reported something suspicious from his quarters - and everyone else aboard the ship started dying in "accidents". She fled at the first opportunity, and contacted her uncle, who was in the Senate. Then he died in a flyer "accident". She took off outside of Star Empire territory; it was only a few years before the beginning of the game that D'vex found her on Drozana, between mercenary jobs and trying to hide at the bottom of a mug of bloodwine. (Say what you will about Klingons, they know how to get drunk!) He got her to dry out, and took her back to Virinat, hoping that a sleepy backwater would be just the place for her to pull her life back together. And then the Elachi raided...

    Her primary motivation, all the way through until "Cutting the Cord", was to avenge her crewmates and her uncle against Hakeev. Putting that blaster bolt through his head was glorious. Then playing her became less compelling...​​
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  • telbasta7386telbasta7386 Member Posts: 761 Arc User
    Khev is just a follower and not a leader. Some people, even in real life, are entirely skilled and capable enough to be leaders, but choose not to. It's easier when you don't have to be responsible for everything
  • lucianazetalucianazeta Member Posts: 740 Arc User
    The specific background is left ambiguous, as to allow you to decide what exactly your character was before Virinat, or possibly even before the supernova.

    I portray my Romulan as having been a career officer in the Romulan Star Navy before eventually ending up on Virinat in the wake of the Hobus Supernova.
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  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    jonsills wrote: »
    My Rom is Tovan Khev. You see, the spatiotemporal rift in the Azure Nebula has inadvertently scattered Tovan Khevs from a number of quantum universes throughout this one. My Tovan Khev believes he's the one who's native to this universe; he has taken it as a personal mission to gather as many Tovans (and Rinnas) aboard his ship as possible.

    Not all the Khevs are identical, of course - for instance, the Tovan we found on Gasko Station is a scientist, who was trying to rescue his "brother" (it's a long story) from the horrors of the station's medbay, and one of the Rinnas, who works as the chief engineer of RRW Tovan Khev XIV, is a Reman (she goes by Rinna NotKhev).​​

    Both Eobard Thawne and Lady Quark approve of this explanation!

    To paraphrase Q himself, "May whatever Tovan you believe in have mercy on your warbird!"

    ;)
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  • myko9myko9 Member Posts: 42 Arc User
    It made more sense during the Delta recruit event, where future you shows up wearing a fleet admiral's uniform.
  • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    all good answers but all wrong, simple fact is that is the way the game designers programmed it to be, just the same as when the gods who programmed this matrix we call "life" programed doctors to be doctors, electricians to be electricians and game designers to be game designers.
    all very simple really, your character is the one programmed to lead and Tovan is the one who was programmed to follow.
    just in the same way life doesn't seem to make much sense to us, lore only comes into play when the programmers choose for it to do so.

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    maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,

     and if that journey takes a little longer,

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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    jmadfour wrote: »
    why did Tovan decide to leave all the decision-making to me?

    I know, Player Character plot armor mumbo-jumbo.

    besides that, lore-wise, he's the combat trained and experienced one, and he's the one who knows how to operate the ship, I'm just a dude trying to escape before the Tal Shiar blows everything up. by the time I get there, it's basically his ship. why does he decide to just give the ship to me and let me call all the shots, instead of him being the Leader himself?

    I don't think the Romulan PC was a Leader in any way, shape, or form on that Colony, unless I missed something. I don't recall seeing anything that suggested that the PC had any kind of leadership role.

    then all of a sudden he's standing in front of the Romulan Republic, Commander Temer and Tovan's all like "he's the boss, not me. btw you seen my sister?".

    what did I miss here?

    well, first off you CAN sort of set a basic in game background for your character by talking to the storyteller in the market area. Not all of the options there have you as some bumfuck yokel farmer.

    secondly, I don't know about your Romulan character but mine was a Commander in the RSE Navy and had her own warbird. She was just on planet for to secure some provisions when the fec es soundly struck the air oscillation unit.
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  • discojerdiscojer Member Posts: 533 Arc User
    Are you really a leader though? On most missions in this game it's the other people (usually your bridge officers or away team) telling you exactly what to do.

    "Sir, you must do this", "Sir, you must do that"

    So how about instead of telling me what to click on, click on it yourself.

    It reaches absurd levels in some cases. Like the logic puzzles. I've got a Vulcan science officer, for crying out loud. She should be champing at the bit to do them. Or that mission where you have to diagnose and treat injured aliens. You have the medical officer giving you hints as to what to do, but they should be doing it themselves.

  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    discojer wrote: »
    Are you really a leader though? On most missions in this game it's the other people (usually your bridge officers or away team) telling you exactly what to do.

    "Sir, you must do this", "Sir, you must do that"

    So how about instead of telling me what to click on, click on it yourself.

    It reaches absurd levels in some cases. Like the logic puzzles. I've got a Vulcan science officer, for crying out loud. She should be champing at the bit to do them. Or that mission where you have to diagnose and treat injured aliens. You have the medical officer giving you hints as to what to do, but they should be doing it themselves.

    Go back to mining your own dilithium crystals and be happy about it! Pay no attention to the 500+ crew you have available or the engineering staff.... or even the miners your fleet hired that are watching you and laughing.
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • dareaudareau Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    Everyone in the colony seemed to depend on me to solve their problems, so apparently I was more than just "farmer A."

    I don't recall my character's background being covered in any detail -- as in, was I a militia leader? did I have any past experience before joining the colony? Did I have a lightning bolt scar to mark me as the Chosen One?

    This is because the only "backstory" Cryptic wants as "canon" concerning the Romulan Admiral "Kills'em'all" is that s/he was a fairly important personage on Virinat.

    Much Like Federation Admiral "Kills'em'all" is "seen" as a command section cadet of promise who was "thrust" into fulfilling that promise post-haste.
    ("Seen" because the TOSling was presented more as a "standard ensign" who then got the "federation tutorial's history of stuffing Borg on Vega"...)

    Player origins are left "extremely vague" so that whatever the player wants to have as the "lead in" to scene 1 "works" with the campaign.

    So many of my Romulans can be a "retired veteran of the Campaign's in Kirk's time" and therefore also somewhat familiar with the T'Liss (even though they're horrendously out of shape) while others can still be a farmer or time-displaced alien...
    Detecting big-time "anti-old-school" bias here. NX? Lobi. TOS/TMP Connie? Super-promotion-box. (aka the two hardest ways to get ships) Excelsior & all 3 TNG "big hero" ships? C-Store. Please Equalize...

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  • eldarion79eldarion79 Member Posts: 1,679 Arc User
    jmadfour wrote: »
    why did Tovan decide to leave all the decision-making to me?

    I know, Player Character plot armor mumbo-jumbo.

    besides that, lore-wise, he's the combat trained and experienced one, and he's the one who knows how to operate the ship, I'm just a dude trying to escape before the Tal Shiar blows everything up. by the time I get there, it's basically his ship. why does he decide to just give the ship to me and let me call all the shots, instead of him being the Leader himself?

    I don't think the Romulan PC was a Leader in any way, shape, or form on that Colony, unless I missed something. I don't recall seeing anything that suggested that the PC had any kind of leadership role.

    then all of a sudden he's standing in front of the Romulan Republic, Commander Temer and Tovan's all like "he's the boss, not me. btw you seen my sister?".

    what did I miss here?

    well, first off you CAN sort of set a basic in game background for your character by talking to the storyteller in the market area. Not all of the options there have you as some bumfuck yokel farmer.

    secondly, I don't know about your Romulan character but mine was a Commander in the RSE Navy and had her own warbird. She was just on planet for to secure some provisions when the fec es soundly struck the air oscillation unit.

    Bumf*ck Yokel Farmer needs to be a new title
  • arionisaarionisa Member Posts: 1,421 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    Tovan suffers from severe anxiety attacks. Despite the medical technology available, nothing has helped and every attempt at commanding he has ever tried was a complete and utter failure as he would freeze up and be unable to speak. At times it gets so bad he actually cowers behind a door or in a corner until the panic attack stops. Due to this condition he refuses to actually take command, preferring instead to act as a helper/advisor.

    It is the hypothesis by some that his condition is not psychological but instead could be some kind of unknown virus or disease, possibly contagious. Others who spent a lot of time in his presence started exhibiting the same symptoms. During times of crisis, especially when exploring unknown and possibly dangerous areas such as enemy ship/facilities/buildings they would sometimes be found hiding behind a door in a previously visited area instead of following the rest of the team. Direct orders will sometimes snap them out of it, other times nothing works.

    Whatever is causing it needs to be isolated and eradicated as the same symptoms are now being reported as occurring in almost all areas of the galaxy, even areas where Tovan has never visited, and it seems to affect all races..

    Latest news, it is even affecting non-biologic life forms such as androids and photonics.
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    arionisa wrote: »
    Tovan suffers from severe anxiety attacks. Despite the medical technology available, nothing has helped and every attempt at commanding he has ever tried was a complete and utter failure as he would freeze up and be unable to speak. At times it gets so bad he actually cowers behind a door or in a corner until the panic attack stops. Due to this condition he refuses to actually take command, preferring instead to act as a helper/advisor.

    It is the hypothesis by some that his condition is not psychological but instead could be some kind of unknown virus or disease, possibly contagious. Others who spent a lot of time in his presence started exhibiting the same symptoms. During times of crisis, especially when exploring unknown and possibly dangerous areas such as enemy ship/facilities/buildings they would sometimes be found hiding behind a door in a previously visited area instead of following the rest of the team. Direct orders will sometimes snap them out of it, other times nothing works.

    Whatever is causing it needs to be isolated and eradicated as the same symptoms are now being reported as occurring in almost all areas of the galaxy, even areas where Tovan has never visited, and it seems to affect all races..

    Latest news, it is even affecting non-biologic life forms such as androids and photonics.

    But at least none of them ever become as clingy as Tovan, so they can be sent back to basic training if their condition becomes too severe.
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