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chitowngrizz420
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I want to start by saying I am a loyal STO player even when the game is great or something changes I don't agree with. That being said those of us that have played for several years have been around for many unique giveaways and rewards.
Some of those giveaways,events and purchase rewards are account unlocks such as some of the ships,outfits,packs,tribbles,BOFFs,DOFFs,Admiraly cards,Hortas,etc. However with the creation of newer characters made by players there are so many things those toons can never have since they didnt exist yet. Such as the TNG ANIVERSERY WORF GOATEE,HAIR,SASH along with lots of past event rewards like the Crystalline torpedo,first contact pets,event pets,DOFFs,Admiralty cards,Zefram Cochrane shotgun,Agony rifle,etc.
Why are players that have been dedicated supporters of STO that have been around long enough to have claimed/earned those things in the past penalized from having them on future characters they created? I don't know if there are any licensing restrictions from any of them but I highly doubt it since they are not giveaways from a third party site.
I understand if for some event rewards you dont account unlock a past reward until the next time the same event comes up again.
Its time to do what many other MMOs do and thats give us account unlocks of things we have were around for or earned in the past!
Some of those giveaways,events and purchase rewards are account unlocks such as some of the ships,outfits,packs,tribbles,BOFFs,DOFFs,Admiraly cards,Hortas,etc. However with the creation of newer characters made by players there are so many things those toons can never have since they didnt exist yet. Such as the TNG ANIVERSERY WORF GOATEE,HAIR,SASH along with lots of past event rewards like the Crystalline torpedo,first contact pets,event pets,DOFFs,Admiralty cards,Zefram Cochrane shotgun,Agony rifle,etc.
Why are players that have been dedicated supporters of STO that have been around long enough to have claimed/earned those things in the past penalized from having them on future characters they created? I don't know if there are any licensing restrictions from any of them but I highly doubt it since they are not giveaways from a third party site.
I understand if for some event rewards you dont account unlock a past reward until the next time the same event comes up again.
Its time to do what many other MMOs do and thats give us account unlocks of things we have were around for or earned in the past!
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Why are you against your newer toons having things you already earned in the past on previous characters?
Fleet Admiral GRIZZ
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Because he gets a stiffy from grinding for stuff on a per character basis.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
How would it damage Cryptic's metrics? If all Event rewards were made available, then the players would need some way to obtain them. Either through grinding each of them which requires time or purchasing them from the Lobi Store which means more $ for Cryptic. There are currently 4 Winter ships, 4 Summer ships, 4 Mirror Invasion rewards, and 6 Crystalline Cataclysm rewards. Most of the rewards are not that interesting for the Mirror Invasion and Crystalline Cataclysm so it would be ignored by a lot of people or done for one or two alts for the novelty of the item. Having every Event project available would mean more people running each Event more often since they missed the previous ones or have to spend more Lobi on getting the ship or item that they missed. If I started this year, then I would need to have 5 alts in December to get every Breen ship for the consoles.
that might be your opinion but its obviously not cryptic's opinion or they would have done this at some point over the last 6 years that this has been begged for by players.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
I never suggested to make them nonexclusive. I said that those us us that have earned things or claimed things like the TNG anniversery giveaway in the past should have the right to get them on all our new toons. STO keeps making things they want us to make new characters for like Romulans,Delta recruits,Agents of yesterday yet don't allow those of us that participated in something from the past to have the right to use something we earned long ago. Yet they allow this for event ships but things like the TNG Worf stuff or the Crystalline torpedo are not which makes no sense.
Fleet Admiral GRIZZ
U.S.S. Chicago NCC 1833-C
Sector 31 ANTKB
ANTKB Gaming Community
This.
It isn't about getting rid of exclusivity, but allowing those that have already done the grind to get the items on new characters.
They did it with ships, so it isn't unreasonable to ask for the same with other event items..
as has been stated in other threads of this nature, making items from the mini events like Crystalline, mirror and such an account unlock would deter some players from playing the event with multiple characters, sure there are some that would do it for the dilithium and marks but many would not bother if all they want is the shiny from the event and where they might play two, four, six or more characters to get the shiny for those characters they would only be bothered to play it with one character once they know the item is an account unlock.
this would be bad for cryptics metrics as there would be a drastic reduction in the amount of times the mission was run.
that might be unfortunate for players when they create new characters but that just the way it has to be to maintain the level of play cryptic expects from these events.
I am sure cryptic lost out big time on their metrics when they made the event ships account unlocks but I don't expect them to make that mistake again anytime soon.
nobody is forced into making new character they make them by choice, they make that choice with the full knowledge that there are some items they will not be able to get for those characters, if you cannot except this don't make new characters.
cryptic might encourage you to make new characters but nobody is forcing you to do so, the choice to do so is entirely yours and you are well aware of the rules regarding event items when you choose to take this action.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
And people keep deliberately misinterpreting what was requested. This was not for Accounts that never participated in said Event but for alts on accounts that had already done so.
Easy to knock down strawmen, I guess.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
maybe if you had been playing for as long as I have you would remember the rickety road that cryptic went down that eventually led to seasonal ships being account unlocks, I am not going to dredge through that history here but suffice to say that is one road I am pretty sure cryptic wish they never went down and if they could go back to the beginning and not go down that road in the first place so the seasonal ships would be handled the same as the other event rewards they would.
I very much doubt that cryptic is ever likely to make that blunder again.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
Cryptic has moved to summer 'new characters events', and those are great. However their glow is heavily reduced by the fact that these new characters can never have the items earned by older characters.
The effect is negative for both the player and Cryptic. How is it negative for Cryptic?
Simple, I'd love to make my AoY character my main. But I'd lose too much stuff if I did (as it's stuck on my old main). So I won't be playing him extensively as a result. That's play time Cryptic has lost, as well as goods and services I may have bought for that character.
Item transfers don't even have to be free. I'd accept a 'transfer re-box' for a Zen fee. I'm willing to pay for this so that Cryptic only gains from the option.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Nope if you go take a look at the Agony Phaser ground weapons
(Terran weapons) in the lobi store they are account bind on equip for some reason, weapons that came after them went back to being character bind on pickup.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Event rewards debate aside what about giveaways like the TNG anniversary? That should be account unlocked like all the other giveaways.
Fleet Admiral GRIZZ
U.S.S. Chicago NCC 1833-C
Sector 31 ANTKB
ANTKB Gaming Community
I disagree, for a start a new character wont "lose" anything as they cannot "lose" anything they never had in the first place, they may not have the availability of certain items but that is a lot different.
also most players will play for a certain amount of time, say 2 hours for example, they may split this time between multiple characters or they may spend it playing only one character regardless of the number of characters they have or they may only ever create one character and spend all of their time playing that character.
which ever way they do it cryptic loses very little, cryptic wont lose time players play because the same amount of time will be spent playing for the available time the player has regardless of the number of characters, also any available money the player has to spend on the game is just as likely to be spent on a single character as it is a multitude of characters.
sure cryptic hopes that the more characters you have the more time you will spend playing and the more money you will spend but in reality most will spend the same amount of time and money regardless of how many characters they have.
a re-box fee has been mentioned many times in the past and obviously cryptic thinks its a bad idea.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
That's not how I and many others work. Games for my style of play are not assemble line show up at 9, get off at five. The amount I play is directly related to how interested I am in playing.
Replacing my main with a new AoY makes me very interested. The type I'd spend playing would skyrocket.
With that option off the table (as I can't transfer items from my main- nor earn them in the game), I'm going to play at a maintenance level with my current main and one or two other characters. No where near the time, and no where near the purchases from the Store.
I have a feeling I'm not alone in this approach. Cryptic is leaving money on the table by refusing a 're-box/transfer' option (with a price).