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The Deferi

fluffymooffluffymoof Member Posts: 430 Arc User
in Star Trek Online General Discussion
"Hi, it's us, the Deferi again! We absolutely love balance. With that in mind, would you please do us a favor and kill every Breen until they are extinct? IT'S FOR BALANCE, YOU KNOW! STOP ASKING SO MANY QUESTIONS AND MURDER THE BREEN!!!!"
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    echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,914 Arc User
    The Deferi have contradicted their 'Balance' so many times it isn't funny.
    Now a LTS and loving it.
    Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
    I have come to the conclusion that I have a memory like Etch-A-Sketch. I shake my head and forget everything. :D
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    risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    It IS for restoring the balance. You're attacking them because they have abducted Deferi citizens.
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    anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    Guys guys guys...

    You misunderstand the Deferi...

    "Balance" means getting everyone else to do your dirty work, while staying a pacifist... Basically, they are in PERFECT balance.
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    echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,914 Arc User
    I just find it hilarious that they tell you "If keeping the Balance means being assimilated, so be it." And then the next time you see them they're whining about the Breen enslaving them.
    Now a LTS and loving it.
    Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
    I have come to the conclusion that I have a memory like Etch-A-Sketch. I shake my head and forget everything. :D
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    risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    I was playing one of the Iconian Foundry missions, The Betrayed. I think there's a Deferi in there whose attitude might be considered... refreshing for you then ;)

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    iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Arc User
    For a people that talk about Balance all the time they sure have a lot of garbage floating around their planet. Looks like a space dump in orbit around them.
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    jade1280jade1280 Member Posts: 868 Arc User
    Deferi and the Bajorans

    If i had to destroy one of them i know which ones i would send back to the void.
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    fruitvendor12fruitvendor12 Member Posts: 615 Arc User
    Deferi are like most of NATO. "Someone do the heavy lifting for us."
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    echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,914 Arc User
    Tell me about it. I thought this myself.

    Why is there so much garbage around this planet? Don't they ever sweep up here?
    Now a LTS and loving it.
    Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
    I have come to the conclusion that I have a memory like Etch-A-Sketch. I shake my head and forget everything. :D
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    ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,571 Arc User
    Perhaps that 'garbage' is what is left of ships, moons, etc. after the Borg blew up that stuff. You do remember that there is a fairly large contingent of Borg down there.
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    theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 5,986 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    I'm through helping a species that refuses to even defend itself but instead expects everyone else to do the fighting and dying on their behalf
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      khayuungkhayuung Member Posts: 1,876 Arc User
      Well the preserver archive is now fried. So balance is restored for the Deferi gaining the archive on the first place.

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      sarreoussarreous Member Posts: 336 Arc User
      I almost want to compare this with a species from the X series of games, the Boron. The backstory goes that these guys are so peaceful to a fault, that when an alien force attacked them they didn't know what to do. As in the very idea of fighting back was incomprehensible. It took a friendly neighboring power to intervene and teach them the ways of war to keep them from being conquered. They still aim for peace and balance but will defend themselves if they must (funny in that sometimes they're apologetic for shooting back at you).

      The Deferi need to either a.) get over themselves and at least build defensive weaponry or b.) apply for Federation membership so that they are under Starfleet's protection. I'm sure there's some way they can consider themselves still in balance while being under the umbrella of a larger power. Such as, "They defend us, and in return we teach them the ways of The Force Balance."
      They want you to end the threat, not end the Breen.

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      angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,001 Arc User
      The Deferi are a very interesting original alien culture and I would have loved to see Cryptic expanding on then instead of abandoning it all. They are however also badly written.

      Living "balance" like it's suggested is like playing a absolutely neutral RPG character. If you think it means to be passive and not doing anything you're doing it wrong, preserving "balance" is actually a lot of work and requires some things like openly turning against your allies for the sole reason of considering the alliance's current course of action tipping that balance. The notion that the Deferi would be absolutely helpless while being attacked makes no sense whatsoever. I absolutely buy the unpreparedness for war, as they were so uninteresting no power was interested in them before. But with the help of the alliance they'd up their game and needed to field defensive forces. Their philosophy would forbid them from ever entering an opposing force's territory to vanquish them, but they would certainly fight to defend their own and save their people.

      What's even more interesting is if the Deferi would have become for STO what the Romulans ultimatly became. A subfaction joining both sides and even joining both parties to fight each other in a war. The Deferi would enter what's essentially civil war simply because they'd need to keep the balance. There would be no ill will between Deferi, but their ships facing each other in battle would simply exchange formal greeting and regret that in order to keep the balance they now have to fight each other. It would have been a interesting plot in my opinion.

      Having the galactic union of STO however makes things a lot easier of course. In my headcanon the Deferi with help of the alliance, started to built their own defensive service to relieve allies from their patrol duties and join efforts to preserve the balance by preventing invasions, assimilation and the like. I even started to write together some fluff but due to other things going on I put it on ice for the time being http://imgur.com/a/XoHPN​​
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      mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
      The Deferi have a defense force, I think - when you do the Deferi Patrols, you occassionally see their ships. It's just competely inadequate to deal with the Breen, and hence they ask for support.

      Their concept of balance... Meh. I don't expect it to stand up under scrutiny.
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      risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
      angrytarg wrote: »
      Living "balance" like it's suggested is like playing a absolutely neutral RPG character. If you think it means to be passive and not doing anything you're doing it wrong, preserving "balance" is actually a lot of work ​​

      Indeed. I've found that the amount of self-control - on both the personal and the civilisation level - and the amount of self-reflection and self restraint rivals that of some of the cultures that are best known for these things, possibly even up to the level of the Vulcans.

      They could easily be considered one of the most responsible cultures we know of.
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