wonder woman trailer looks fantastic!

sp00kymulder · July 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lGoQhFb4NM

comrademoco · July 2016

:squeeeeeeeeeee:

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angrytarg · July 2016

Okay, I do not have much knowledge about DC aside from basic Batman and Superman. Why does Wonder Woman fight Germans in WW1? I just assume from what I see the Amazons aren't like Asgardians in Marvel who are actually aliens from another world.

markhawkman · July 2016

Amazons were blessed by the gods to not age. The Amazon Hippolyta is supposed to be the same Hippolyta who fought Hercules. So yeah.... Actually there was a throwaway line in BvS that Batman used as part of figuring out WW. Bats apparently found a picture of her from back then.

sykes79 · August 2016

This trailer looks awesome, loved the music for Wonder Woman in BvS and when she fights against Doomsday with Batman and Superman it was one of the best parts of the film. After BvS I changed one of my tactical characters to Wonder Woman, made her specialize in melee weapons and renamed her ship the U.S.S. Themyscira.

http://imgur.com/U4nEpc1

lordgyor · August 2016

"She was the best part of BvS IMO." She felt completely tacked on. The best part that movie was the fight between superman and bat man, and Louis Lane.

They didn't do anything interesting with her and she feels more like Xena Warrior Princess if she stole Captain America's shield to replace her Chakra, then Wonder Women in the trailer.

And what Gal Godot has the looks, her accent just doesn't feel right for the Wonder Women.

Honestly I have a better feeling about the Mrs. Marvel movie.

I don't think I'll be watching another DC movie for awhile, every Marvel movie crushes every DC movie released (except the Toby McGuire Spiderman movies, although I did like Christina Dunst in them the hobgoblin guys).

evilmark444 · August 2016

This may be good, but then the bar for DC movies is pretty low anyway, the only good ones were the Dark Knight trilogy, which aren't part of the new film franchise.

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evilmark444 · August 2016

azrael605 wrote: »

The low point for DC films was Steel and Catwoman, nothing since has approached that level.

Maybe not that level of bad, but DC still has yet to put together a good movie outside of the Dark Knight trilogy. They've got the TV side down pretty good though.

nikeix · August 2016

Word is the Gotham team has hired Bruce Tim to write/consult on all the episodes that introduce new characters (villains) to the series.

I thought BvS was a whole lot of actors trying their damnedest to salvage possibly the worst script that's ever had 9 digits of money thrown at it. Lots of great performances all in a framework that made me want to claw my own eyes out in sheer boredom. Turn off the post-processing induced deep-mud color palette and carve off about 25% of the length and you'd have something reasonably watchable as long as when the Doomsday fight begins you start banging your head against a brick wall and don't stop until the credits roll. There's simply no salvaging that farce. Those explosions were the single LAZIEST way of giving one of DC's most powerful monsters a death-toll without the character actually doing a damn thing except growl. What could have (should have!) been a week long nation-wide rampage begins and ends in less than 45 minutes of in-setting time.

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markhawkman · August 2016

azrael605 wrote: »

@evilmark444

The low point for DC films was Steel and Catwoman, nothing since has approached that level.

I didn't think Steel was bad... as an origin story. It was rather bland though.

artan42 · August 2016

Steel was just kinda... there. That's really all there is to say about it. It wasn't Batman and Robin or Catwoman type bad, nor like Daredevil or Green Lantern, good enough films with missteps but still entertaining.

thekodanarmada · August 2016

azrael605 wrote: »

@evilmark444

The low point for DC films was Steel and Catwoman, nothing since has approached that level.

Sorry, but no. It was Women in Refridgerators.

stobg2015 · August 2016

I like that trailer. Unlike Superman in MoS and BvS, it seems to stay truer to the character. I'll agree with Valoreah that she (Gal Gadot) seemed to be an unlikely choice at first, but she could grow on me.

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nrobbiec · August 2016

I'm really enjoying this new wave of DC offerings. Man of Steel is decent if a little forgettable by itself however works for setup now, BvS Ultimate Edition is very enjoyable though long (makes the theatrical cut look like a right mess though), Suicide Squad was wonderful and I'm very excited for Wonder Woman. I do hope her theme makes it into the solo film too and wasnt just tacked onto the trailer because that's a nice tune.

iconians · August 2016

I think it's hilarious that DC still thinks they're competitive with Marvel, this isn't the 90's anymore and Marvel has pretty much taken the crown for both the small screen and the silver screen.

DC is still trying to find their bearings and Marvel is already cranking out sequels to spin-offs which were sequels to other spin-offs, and their Netflix line-up is only getting bigger.

Not to mention, their storytelling ability is both entertaining and coherent, something that DC is completely oblivious to that isn't handled by Christopher Nolan.

nrobbiec · August 2016

With regards to the whole DC vs Marvel thing, a little anecdote of my own experiences. I really enjoy the DCEU but can't stand the MCU, however I'd seen the Marvel films first. I watched Avengers and Guardians and hated them (for context I also hated the Dark Knight too) I had the X-Men films and Arrow/Flash/Legends those were my comicbook corners. Then to see what all the fuss was about I watch BvS and enjoyed it, enough so to watch Man of Steel and then watch BvS ultimate edition and really enjoyed that. So much so I watched the entire Justice League (Unlimited) animated series and a lot of the DC animated films. So yeah with the exception of X-Men (maybe it's the lack of Disney I don't know) you could say I'm one of "them DC fanboys" but I am so from the merits of the material. Suicide Squad was thoroughly entertaining and I'm very excited for Wonder Woman. So I think the argument of competition and quality is a subjective matter. Critics' opinions, financial success and whether or not something is good or not are rarely hand in hand, we love what we love. This became a ramble, I apologise. Peace and love.

sykes79 · August 2016

I agree a lot with nrobbiec. Although I've enjoyed a lot of Marvel films BVS and Deadpool are both my favorites so far. I can't wait for Wonder Woman, especially Hans Zimmers and Junkie XL's score. Comparing DC to Marvel is like comparing Star Wars to Star Trek, I enjoy both and I like the fact that they both have their distinct tone. All of my experience of comic book characters have been through films and TV but for Wonder Woman I'm actually considering either reading the comics or watching the 2009 animated film. With Suicide Squad it seems that the more familiar people were with the characters beforehand the more they enjoyed it.

nrobbiec · August 2016

sykes79 wrote: »

With Suicide Squad it seems that the more familiar people were with the characters beforehand the more they enjoyed it.

That does seem to be a factor, people I know who were unfamiliar with Suicide Squad said the film wasn't quite what they were expecting from the trailers.

And as you say with Star Wars too. I am obviously a firmly entrenched Trekkie but there's a lot of rich worldbuilding in Star Wars and the politics of the universe are ironically more interesting than the actual wars to me.

I think even if someone only leans heavily towards one side of the great rivalries there's unfortunately a stigma towards liking anything, but then that's more just the internet being the internet.

evilmark444 · August 2016

iconians wrote: »

I think it's hilarious that DC still thinks they're competitive with Marvel, this isn't the 90's anymore and Marvel has pretty much taken the crown for both the small screen and the silver screen.

DC is still trying to find their bearings and Marvel is already cranking out sequels to spin-offs which were sequels to other spin-offs, and their Netflix line-up is only getting bigger.

Not to mention, their storytelling ability is both entertaining and coherent, something that DC is completely oblivious to that isn't handled by Christopher Nolan.

I agree wholeheartedly regarding the silver screen, but on the small screen I gotta say DC gave Marvel a major TRIBBLE-kicking. I watched the first half of Agents of Shield's first season and completely lost interest, whereas Arrow, The Flash, and Supergirl all have me counting down the days each week waiting for the next episode. I've heard Daredevil is good but haven't watched it yet, mostly because of the bad taste AoS gave me for Marvel TV shows.

I think the true secret to Marvel's movie success is that the characters are very true to their comic book versions, both in appearance and personality, and the movies match the overall tone of the comics. The Dark Knight trilogy got all those things right as well, but then DC thought it would be a great idea to apply that same dark tone to Superman, instead of recognizing that that is not how Superman is meant to be portrayed. The people behind the Marvel movies understand the characters and what makes them entertaining, the people behind the DC movies just ... don't, though the people behind the Arrow-verse do.

markhawkman · August 2016

iconians wrote: »

I think it's hilarious that DC still thinks they're competitive with Marvel, this isn't the 90's anymore and Marvel has pretty much taken the crown for both the small screen and the silver screen.

DC is still trying to find their bearings and Marvel is already cranking out sequels to spin-offs which were sequels to other spin-offs, and their Netflix line-up is only getting bigger.

Not to mention, their storytelling ability is both entertaining and coherent, something that DC is completely oblivious to that isn't handled by Christopher Nolan.

Yeah, Nolan could have done a remake of the bright and campy Batman and it'd have still been awesome. why? good story. The story ideas in BvS were good, just awkwardly executed.

mustrumridcully0 · August 2016

iconians wrote: »

I think it's hilarious that DC still thinks they're competitive with Marvel, this isn't the 90's anymore and Marvel has pretty much taken the crown for both the small screen and the silver screen.

I think the real mistake DC is making is doing too much at once. The B v S movie is trying to lay the groundwork for the Justice League stuff, but it has cramped way too much into a single movie and it ended up being incoherent and unsatisfying.

Marvel started its MCU with what - Iron Man? They didn't really have a firm idea of doing the MCU there, it was the success of the first movies that allowed them to continue.

DC needs to first establish a few characters and the setting, and then can start spinning the big story. They should have it in mind, if they can, but they first need to focus on making especially the initial movies stand on their own.

Maybe they believed the Superman movie managed that, but it wasn't all that great. I still don't have a feel for Superman as character or person.

artan42 · August 2016

evilmark444 wrote: »

I agree wholeheartedly regarding the silver screen, but on the small screen I gotta say DC gave Marvel a major ****-kicking. I watched the first half of Agents of Shield's first season and completely lost interest, whereas Arrow, The Flash, and Supergirl all have me counting down the days each week waiting for the next episode. I've heard Daredevil is good but haven't watched it yet, mostly because of the bad taste AoS gave me for Marvel TV shows.

Not anymore. AoS really picks up past series 1 and comes into its own, Agent Carter had an okay first series (we'll pretend the second didn't happen) and the Netflix stuff is fantastic (or at least Daredevil is, Jessica Jones is more divisive)

As for DC, Arrow stopped being any good halfway through series 3 after that it's just painful to watch, Supergirl was okay but may pick up after the chanel move and Flash and Legends of Tomorrow were good but both find themselves a bit over filled with filler, especially LoT where the main bad guy could have been killed for good two episodes in and again halfway through and it's final arc drags out for far too long.

Edit: I saw a funny comparison of Arrow on Reddit;

Series 1 is Batman Begins, it's the introduction to this dark new reboot of the character very much set in the real world that really set a new standard for its genera.
Series 2 is the Dark Knight, the groundwork has been laid and it reaches new heights helped along by a fantastic main villain. It is regarded as the clear best by fans and critics.
Series 3 is The Dark Knight Rises, it's overstuffed with decent underlying themes but its third act is a mess.
Series 4 is Batman and Robin, it's a pathetic, childish throwback to a bygone era, with a incompetent and laughable big bad, an aura of high camp that permeates every fiber of the production. The only thing it's missing is the introduction of a minor character who completely takes over the plot and destroying any semblance of the show's former glory. Oh, and who can overcome spinal paralysis by willpower alone.

nrobbiec · August 2016

evilmark444 wrote: »

I think the true secret to Marvel's movie success is that the characters are very true to their comic book versions, both in appearance and personality, and the movies match the overall tone of the comics.

See I'm not so sure, a lot of criticisms I've seen of the DCEU has been that it's too comicbook-y. If anything maybe the reverse is true, Marvel tends to go for as broad an appeal as possible. Not a good thing or a bad thing inherently.

But yeah I mean, I adore the Arrowverse so I don't know what defence I could bring to the table that wouldn't be fan ravings. If anything isn't Marvel's had a cancellation and a failed pilot so it's hardly got the monopoly.

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ikonn · August 2016

She has wonderful muscles...

wonder woman trailer looks fantastic!

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