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Why is there only ONE Dyson mark queue?

itpalgitpalg Member Posts: 340 Arc User
in Star Trek Online General Discussion
I haven't felt like doing the actual Dyson zone missions for marks, as a queue is quick and simple sometimes.

Why does this content only have one pve queue (Storming the Spire) that no one seems to queue up enough for?
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    Because everybody does Borg Disconnected.​​
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,661 Arc User
    Because there IS a whole sphere full of stuff to do.
  • officerbatman81officerbatman81 Member Posts: 2,761 Arc User
    Ill be honest with you all, ive heard of the dinosaurs with lasers on their heads for years but never actually seen them with my own eyes. Dont care to particularly.
  • antonine3258antonine3258 Member Posts: 2,391 Arc User
    There was 'The Breach' but it was removed and showed up, revamped, as a limited time featured queue.
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  • hanover2hanover2 Member Posts: 1,053 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    That ground battlezone is a lot of schlepping around a huge map full of FAAAAAAAAR too many dead ends, only to discover that campers have already claimed the choice real estate. I've been there less than 10 times over the years, and have very little interest in going back.

    I agree with the OP. More (SPACE!) queues that reward Dyson marks are needed. Borg Disconnected is the go-to for FAR too many reputations.
  • baldrick8baldrick8 Member Posts: 100 Arc User
    The Dyson Daily in the Allied Zone gives some marks (about 60 with bonus) very quickly. 5 mins playtime perhaps. But it doesn't award the special item unfortunately.
  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    If you want just the daily I do one mission from the commander there at sphere allied space - less than 5 minutes.

    If I want many marks (300?) I do the ground battlezone - also gives 5 special marks. The ground battlezone continues to be my favorite content in the game for lo these many years.
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  • itpalgitpalg Member Posts: 340 Arc User
    The usual smart bass answers.

    Borg is old over and over and over. I have never experienced the actual Dyson queue content.

    Sphere is same as Defera, New Romulus, etc. You run around doing stuff solo while other people run around solo, and ignores chat and calls for LFG.

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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,661 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    itpalg wrote: »
    The usual smart bass answers.

    Borg is old over and over and over. I have never experienced the actual Dyson queue content.

    Sphere is same as Defera, New Romulus, etc. You run around doing stuff solo while other people run around solo, and ignores chat and calls for LFG.

    The sphere space missions don't need a group, only the space battlezones (sort of) do. Even there I've solo'd the control points with several different characters and (T6) ships. You need other people in the zone to take control and to take out the planet-killers but no actual grouping is needed.

    I do agree that it is annoying that only the lazer-dinos (with the leech camper players) get you the elite marks needed for projects.
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    itpalg wrote: »
    The usual smart bass answers.

    Borg is old over and over and over. I have never experienced the actual Dyson queue content.

    Sphere is same as Defera, New Romulus, etc. You run around doing stuff solo while other people run around solo, and ignores chat and calls for LFG.

    If you already know the answer, why even bother asking?​​
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    Because Dyson is an ancient reputation that most of the playerbase have long completed and moved onto other, possibly easier to do things. I'm still somewhat surprised people still do Voth BZ or see ships in Sphere Space.

    That's the fun thing with Themepark MMOs. If you're not a part of the initial onrush of new content, then you're part of the follow on group picking up what was left by the locust movement, devoid of life and activity.

    Dyson & Undine / Counter-Command Rep Content are in activity hell.
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  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    The Dyson queues were and are a waste of time compared to running the Dyson Ground Battlezone.
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  • fmgtorres1979fmgtorres1979 Member Posts: 1,327 Arc User
    I don't like ground, but the Battlezone is an exception. I like it very much.
  • itpalgitpalg Member Posts: 340 Arc User
    iconians wrote: »
    itpalg wrote: »
    The usual smart bass answers.

    Borg is old over and over and over. I have never experienced the actual Dyson queue content.

    Sphere is same as Defera, New Romulus, etc. You run around doing stuff solo while other people run around solo, and ignores chat and calls for LFG.

    If you already know the answer, why even bother asking?​​

    You didn't even read what I responded to with comprehension.

    My post was for some reason not placed in the proper order of when I posted it.

    For someone reading with comprehension, they would see that I am talking about the PVE queue's lack of diversity in this area. Every other queue has at least two different things to do. This only has one.
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  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,225 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    itpalg wrote: »

    For someone reading with comprehension, they would see that I am talking about the PVE queue's lack of diversity in this area. Every other queue has at least two different things to do. This only has one.

    Those marks were introduced with season 8. We got 2 queues, 1 ground battle- and 1 space adventure zone with it supporting this reputation system. Unfortunately the queues are relatively unpopular due to some design flaws in correlation with in game progression demands (I tried to find a nice expression for “wast of time” here) so 1 of the two was removed. Also most of the gear from the reput is kind of obsolete so there seems to be a massive decline in interest in the whole thing. :)
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  • ssbn655ssbn655 Member Posts: 1,894 Arc User
    davefenestrator wrote: »
    itpalg wrote: »
    The usual smart bass answers.

    Borg is old over and over and over. I have never experienced the actual Dyson queue content.

    Sphere is same as Defera, New Romulus, etc. You run around doing stuff solo while other people run around solo, and ignores chat and calls for LFG.

    The sphere space missions don't need a group, only the space battlezones (sort of) do. Even there I've solo'd the control points with several different characters and (T6) ships. You need other people in the zone to take control and to take out the planet-killers but no actual grouping is needed.

    I do agree that it is annoying that only the lazer-dinos (with the leech camper players) get you the elite marks needed for projects.

    You do remember that you can trade regular marks in for the elite pwer cell or wahtever it is once a day right?
  • ssbn655ssbn655 Member Posts: 1,894 Arc User
    warmaker001b wrote: »
    Because Dyson is an ancient reputation that most of the playerbase have long completed and moved onto other, possibly easier to do things. I'm still somewhat surprised people still do Voth BZ or see ships in Sphere Space.

    That's the fun thing with Themepark MMOs. If you're not a part of the initial onrush of new content, then you're part of the follow on group picking up what was left by the locust movement, devoid of life and activity.

    Dyson & Undine / Counter-Command Rep Content are in activity hell.

    I do them for the marks to trade in for dilith and dilith itself quick and easy. I bet most of the folks doing them do it just for that.
  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    itpalg wrote: »
    Every other queue has at least two different things to do. This only has one.
    You mean every other reputation has at least 2 queues? Barely anybody plays the Dyson queues because playing in the ground battlezone was soooooo effective and frankly easy. Storming the Spire is pretty boring to be honest and "The Breach" was eliminated because it was virtually never played by anyone. Who would waste 30 minutes possibly failing a mission for a measly amount of marks when you could have 10x the marks and elite marks in the same amount of time in the Dyson Ground Battlezone?

    When you see "TRIBBLE" in my posts, it's because I manually typed "TRIBBLE" and censored myself.
  • sylveriareldensylveriarelden Member Posts: 531 Arc User
    You have to unlock the other one using the Secret Cow Level.
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    Yeah. Annoying. I still need 1 Voth Cybernetic Implant (have 2 slotted already in a project). And the one queue that gives out those is totally dead.

    I could of course totally trash the Voth Cybernetic Implant trade-in project (I have long since everything I need for that rep); but it's the principle of things.
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  • jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    I actually liked Storming the Spire, but the last time I played it was back in early 2015 because no one queues up for that mission anymore. For Dyson Marks I simply play Borg Disconnected, but when I want the elite marks, then I do the BZ.

    Once I get back to doing the story missions on my AoY Engineer, I will be heading over to the BZ on that captain and probably just stay there for a few days to grind out the elite marks and the Dil. I gotta take a look at the rep projects to see which gear I want to get.
  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    There are in fact two queues that give Dyson marks at the moment. Storming the Spire and Borg Disconnected.
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    Don't forget the Temporal Mauraders (Na'kuhl) Red Alert.
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  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    salazarraze wrote: »
    itpalg wrote: »
    Every other queue has at least two different things to do. This only has one.
    "The Breach" was eliminated because it was virtually never played by anyone.

    I doubt that was the sole reason for it's removal. There are plenty of queue STFs that are rarely touched anymore.
    Well sure, it was also a good candidate for an event. Due to it being longer and more difficult than your run of the mill ISA.
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  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,225 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    - Players return to the predictable ISA/Borg STFs which usually last no more than two minutes and offer high-reward-no-effort gameplay.

    It's never going to change.

    I disagree. Sure it’s true that new queues have higher participation at the start because they are new.

    Later on only the fun factor decides if they are kept on being run. Some are while others are not. Of course this includes but is not limited to ISA, a map that has an outcome which reflects the player’s global progression curve best.

    For my AoY toon I did not encounter any problems to get most mark types out of queues. Rhi Station, Brotherhood, Bug Hunt, Nukara. All popped rather quickly despite their age.

    Hard times for terran or voth marks though. But is understandable considering how those maps are designed. Glad the recruit has some decent multiple choice rewards therefor. :)
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    peterconnorfirst wrote: »
    reyan01 wrote: »
    - Players return to the predictable ISA/Borg STFs which usually last no more than two minutes and offer high-reward-no-effort gameplay.

    It's never going to change.

    I disagree. Sure it’s true that new queues have higher participation at the start because they are new.

    Later on only the fun factor decides if they are kept on being run. Some are while others are not. Of course this includes but is not limited to ISA, a map that has an outcome which reflects the player’s global progression curve best.

    Bull. People don't grind ISA and CCA all day because it's "fun." They do it because it's the same reward at a fraction of the time and effort.

    And it's only ever going to change if the reward structure is changed.
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    warpangel wrote: »

    Bull. People don't grind ISA and CCA all day because it's "fun." They do it because it's the same reward at a fraction of the time and effort.

    And it's only ever going to change if the reward structure is changed.

    Some people like doing ISA and CCA.

    I enjoy it, part of it is the fact that they reward well, but the main appeal to me is I can just que up and do a quick run on these queues. They're not overly complicated, they're simple and straight forward so I don't have to worry about 'pugging' them. I like the Temporal Raiders queue for the same reason, straight forward and I get my choice of marks. Even if I get a team of under geared or minimally skilled players, I can carry the team if I need to. If I get a good team, then I just cruise right through but I never really know what I'm going to get.

    You may not enjoy them, but many people do. I find them both to be fun. To be fair though, I don't do them more then once or twice in a day, there isn't any content in this game that I want to do a dozen times in a day.
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  • salazarrazesalazarraze Member Posts: 3,794 Arc User
    warpangel wrote: »
    peterconnorfirst wrote: »
    reyan01 wrote: »
    - Players return to the predictable ISA/Borg STFs which usually last no more than two minutes and offer high-reward-no-effort gameplay.

    It's never going to change.

    I disagree. Sure it’s true that new queues have higher participation at the start because they are new.

    Later on only the fun factor decides if they are kept on being run. Some are while others are not. Of course this includes but is not limited to ISA, a map that has an outcome which reflects the player’s global progression curve best.

    Bull. People don't grind ISA and CCA all day because it's "fun." They do it because it's the same reward at a fraction of the time and effort.

    And it's only ever going to change if the reward structure is changed.
    For lots of people Easy = Fun.
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  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,225 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    warpangel wrote: »

    Bull. People don't grind ISA and CCA all day because it's "fun." .

    I have 2-3 mil unrefined Dil on each of my 9 toons (As my AoY No.10 has to catch on). Should be enough to last months without actively playing anything.

    The "need" to tend to teamed PvE besides temporary mark type demands has been patched out with the introduction of the Admiralty system a year ago.

    I don’t know about you but believe me, when I play ISA I play it for fun. :)
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  • fiberteksyfirfiberteksyfir Member Posts: 1,207 Arc User
    Erm... na'kul red alert. Other than that yea laser dinos is the best way probably.
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