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Why I think the Gamma Quadrant is next

somtaawkharsomtaawkhar Member Posts: 10,222 Arc User
Since "Ragnarok" has effectively ended the Temporal Cold War storyline, I have been thinking on whats next for STO.

IMO, from all Cryptic has done, it seems like they are moving ever closer to a DS9/Gamma quadrant based expansion, and here's why.

1. With the release of Season 11 we saw the final of the big story mission revamps, the one for the Cardassian struggle arc. This revamp introduced us to Mirror Leeta(a character from DS9 OFC)

2. Season 11 also brought up the Badlands Battlezone, featuring Mirror Leeta, with her making quips about being the servant of the Pah-wraiths, a fairly important group from DS9.

3. Season 11 and AoY also brought with them a return of the Tholian and Breen enemies, who have basically been absent since before the Dyson Sphere stuff. However, we not only see these races as enemies, but as allies, either part of, or allied to, the Galactic Union in missions in which we go to the future. These races have some big ties to the Dominion, the Breen having outright allied with them during the Dominion War, with the Tholians signing a non aggression pact with them.

4. Along with the Tholians and Breen, we have also seen the Dominion, who has largely been absent since the 2800 arc, sans them sending a few ships to help the battle over earth during Midnight. Much like the Tholians and Breen, the normally hostile Dominion is shown as an ally, or part of, the Galactic Union.

5. All of these encounters with the races takes place on New Khitomer, a planet we visit a number of times in Future Proof/AoY. A planet located in the Gamma Quadrant, which we are told by Daniels, that sits just outside Dominion space. The name New Khitomer itself implies something big, as Khitomer itself is where the Feds and Klingons signed the Khitomer Accords, which ended hostilities between them.

6. While it never materialized in Season 11, we were told a revamp of the DS9 interior was supposed to happen, showing the devs do have interest in DS9 currently.

7. On top of the revamps we did get, we have been told by Cryptic several times that both the Breen and Fek'ihri arcs are going to get revamped. The Breen arc revamp is important due to the known connection the Breen have with The Dominion, while the Fek'ihri arc ended with the suggestion that the Hur'q were behind the Fek'ihri. For those of you who know your Trek lore, the Hur'q are a race from the Gamma quadrant. I suspect both of these, since they are much smaller revamps then the others, may drop at the same time as we get closer to expansion 4.

8. We have been seeing an increase in Hur'q references. First in Butterfly where Nog says that removing the Iconians were prevent the Hur'q from developing warp drive, and again in Vorgon conclusions were the Hur'q are suspect to be behind the Thought Maker device.

9. Both Season 8: The Sphere, and Season 10: The Iconian War, picked up immediately where their previous expansion packs left off, and if Aoy/Season 12 does the same, the Mirror Universe and Leeta will be the big figures of Season 12, since Leeta is currently the only one of the Temporal Threats left.

10. If Season 12 is Mirror Universe based, it will likely tied back into some of the stuff I mentioned above, as its been an unexplained thing for awhile now that Tholian ships sometimes create rifts which Mirror Universe ships come through, both in Tholian red alerts, and in the Crystalline entity queue. And since Mirror Leeta is a DS9 character, and her point of invasion is in the Ds9 region, it makes sense there would be more content around there.

11. The Temporal Defense Initiative reputation messages reference the Na'Khul's attempts to change Cardassian history via a marketplace bombing that would kill Dukat. Reputation messages have historically been tied to future content.

TL:DR, everything in the game thus far points to something DS9/Gamma Quad/Dominion focused being the next step for the storyline, which makes sense, given that they already covered Voyager with Delta Rising, and ToS/ENT/Kelvin with AoY.

I also suspect we might see some content based on Augments in the near future, based on the recent uptick of references to Khan and augments. May time in with the Leeta/time travel stuff of Season 12.

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  • flumfflumf Member Posts: 68 Arc User
    It's certainly possible that the next expansion could be in the Gamma quadrant, it is the only quadrant we haven't spent a significant amount of time in.
  • kurumimorishitakurumimorishita Member Posts: 1,410 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    Not to mention that there'll be the 25th anniversary of the DS9 series in jan 2018 which would be a perfect date to release the next expansion considering the usual development time.
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  • dlmc85dlmc85 Member Posts: 145 Arc User
    That reminds me also that 2017 will be TNG 30th anniversary. Maybe we'll get something for season 14 or expansion 4 (if they keep the 18 months pace it will be around end-2017)
  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,257 Arc User
    Actually that star base we go to frequently for the signing of the Temporal accords. Wasn't that in the Gamma Quadrant? Meaning we've seen it multiple times, now it's time to go actually find it.
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  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,257 Arc User
    talonxv wrote: »
    Actually that star base we go to frequently for the signing of the Temporal accords. Wasn't that in the Gamma Quadrant? Meaning we've seen it multiple times, now it's time to go actually find it.
    A. That wasn't a starbase, it was a massive ring built on the planet held up by equally massive supports.

    B. The planet that is on is New Khitomer, the planet I mentioned several times.

    point is, it's in the Gamma Quadrant, need to go find it right?
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  • captsolcaptsol Member Posts: 921 Arc User
    Temporal War isn't over. Daniels even said that the Vorgons, Sphere Builders and Na'kuhl are still out there. The only one we defeated was the person using them as a united front.
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  • ashrod63ashrod63 Member Posts: 384 Arc User
    Not to mention that there'll be the 25th anniversary of the DS9 series in jan 2018 which would be a perfect date to release the next expansion considering the usual development time.

    It's also the year the Dax symbiont was/will be born. This has to happen, surely?
  • kurumimorishitakurumimorishita Member Posts: 1,410 Arc User
    ashrod63 wrote: »
    Not to mention that there'll be the 25th anniversary of the DS9 series in jan 2018 which would be a perfect date to release the next expansion considering the usual development time.

    It's also the year the Dax symbiont was/will be born. This has to happen, surely?

    Yup.. I'm virtually certain this will happen and if they'll mix the quality of AoY with the quantity of LoR it really will become the best expansion ever!!! *^_^* Just can't wait for it to happen - considering that DS9 is my fav among the ST series.
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  • reafisreafis Member Posts: 147 Arc User
    It would be nice to bring back the cardassians as a race. Maybe a cool tie up with the battered cardassians teaming up with what's left of the mirror cardassian/Klingon alliance.

    That then gives the option of a series of missions set in the mirror universe as the resistance attacks the Terran empire ( imagine being able to legitimately attack earth)
  • sinn74sinn74 Member Posts: 1,149 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    Everyone thought exploration was next, since, you know. they asked. The poll winning answer was met with "The Iconian War."

    Just ask Geko what he thinks will make the best excuse to sell more stuff. That's next.
  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    The Gamma Quadrant would be good. Or the Prophet Gate that Sela told about. That is deep in the Beta Quadrant. Where no human has yet explored
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  • goodscotchgoodscotch Member Posts: 1,680 Arc User
    From a canon perspective, we don't really know that much about the Gamma Quadrant...which would give Cryptic an almost free reign in developing it. What's really solidly known about the Gamma Quadrant other than the Dominion hold sway there? It might be interesting.
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  • shrimphead2015shrimphead2015 Member Posts: 535 Arc User
    I do suspect though they are holding off a bit just in case the new star trek series deal with the Gamma Quadrant.
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  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    farmallm wrote: »
    The Gamma Quadrant would be good. Or the Prophet Gate that Sela told about. That is deep in the Beta Quadrant. Where no human has yet explored
    Uhh no, the Prophets Gate is the Bajoran wormhole in the Alpha quadrant(you know, the home of the Prophets), thats why Sela came in with DOMINION reinforcements during the battle over Earth.

    The Prophet's Gate is not in the Beta quadrant.

    I will look it up again. But I'm very sure she said "Deep in Beta Quadrant" and where no "Humans" has never been. IF that is correct, then its not the Wormhole at DS9. As Humans been there and its in the Alpha Quadrant.
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  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    goodscotch wrote: »
    From a canon perspective, we don't really know that much about the Gamma Quadrant...which would give Cryptic an almost free reign in developing it. What's really solidly known about the Gamma Quadrant other than the Dominion hold sway there? It might be interesting.
    We know the general layout of the Gamma Quadrant, as the Star Trek Star Charts have two maps for the Gamma Quad.

    http://i.imgur.com/wrWrjrh.png

    They could easily do a Delta Rising sized expansion, with the 8 sectors I put in the white box area.

    That would allow them to get most of the known Gamma Quad races into the expansion, and they can handwave the rest like the did with the Kazon being on the other side of the Nekrit Expanse in Delta Rising.

    That is a start, and they can have some new stuff as well. However they have to get around the War Treaty. Even during the 2800 they was like. "Your not supposed to be here!"
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  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    You are confusing what Sela did between the TV shows and STO, with what she did during the Icoinan War.

    Sela went off into the deep Beta Quad for years between Nemesis and STO, and there she found the Hirogen, and returned with them to take over the Romulan Star Empire.

    She mentioned doing that in her messages, but she wasn't going back there during the Iconian War.


    According to the path of 2409 we had been doing deep space expeditions into the Gamma quad since nearly after the war ended. In the 2800 we went into their part of the Gamma quad specifically to contact them, which we weren't supposed to do.

    The treaty does not prevent us from going into the Gamma quad at all however. Even when the 2800 begins Kurland makes the comment of "no one was scheduled to use the wormhole today!" because people do use it to go into the Gamma quad on official missions all the time.

    Ok, I will look at that part on Sela again. When next time I log on.

    Regardless how Kurland said it. The Dominion wasn't too happy about you being in their Space.
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  • captkelly31#5645 captkelly31 Member Posts: 392 Arc User
    I still think STO should have the Player entering that unexplored space along the wormhole's path. DS9's just waiting for a plot to show up from that apparent emptiness.
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