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TOS uniform clarification.
kylethetrue
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So for TOS uniforms they default with Tactical Officers wearing Gold, Engineering wearing Red and Science wearing blue.
But if I remember TOS right, the Commander of a ship is pretty much the only one wearing gold? Enlisted mostly wears Red whether they are security or engineering?
So to be accurate my character as the captain should be wearing gold regardless of His/Her class and everyone else should be wearing red or blue?
Also the badge is unique to individual ships right? So I picking the Enterprise one with the chevron or whatever symbol isn't necessarily accurate either?
But if I remember TOS right, the Commander of a ship is pretty much the only one wearing gold? Enlisted mostly wears Red whether they are security or engineering?
So to be accurate my character as the captain should be wearing gold regardless of His/Her class and everyone else should be wearing red or blue?
Also the badge is unique to individual ships right? So I picking the Enterprise one with the chevron or whatever symbol isn't necessarily accurate either?
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Red was classified as Operations, which included Engineering, Security, and Services (Communications - Lt Uhura, Historians - Marla McGivers from Space Seed, and sometimes the odd science - Astrobiologist Ann Mulhall from Return to Tomorrow).
What I did was had my Tactical Officers that primarily function as Bridge Crew, I put them in the Command Gold. And my Tactical Officers that function only as Ground Crew, I put in Operations Red.
The badge/emblem was different for each ship. You could fudge it a little bit and use the one that is tied to the ship class if you like or just use whichever you like best.
Here is a source, namely the man who was the costume designer for the show:
http://startrekmyths.tumblr.com/post/27767952703/kirks-uniform-is-not-gold-its-green
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that would explain the green command wrap tunic
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That applies only to the Captain, the rest of the Command division was Gold. They had attempted to differentiate the Captain from the rest of the crew. Even as the link stated, it looked Gold under lighting and filming. As time went on, the Captain became stated as wearing Gold as well, as that is what people saw, even though it was incorrect.
The same thing happened during TNG with Medical and Science. They both wore the same color, but at some point during production, the material used for Medical got switched and looked Teal under lighting and during filming. As such, the Medical colors became Teal.
Yeah, but it doesn't really matter... We saw gold, and Trek then went with gold. The only time green was there was when Kirk wore a different shirt and that was a distinct minority of the time.
As far as the OP goes, as stated, multiple officers wore gold. We saw not only the three classic bridge characters (Kirk, Sulu, and Chekhov), but also Riley and others, some of whom we never saw on the bridge.
Let's face it, the concept wasn't really thought through that well.
Uhura (communications) is wearing the same color as Scotty (engineering), Rand (yeoman), and the disposable security guys (security). What's the connection?
Blue for science and medical (except when it isn't because someone felt that a red or gold dress or shirt might look better).
Gold for "command" (whatever that means, because Scotty was third in line but Sulu would take the chair at times. The aforementioned Riley worked as a navigator, in communications, and in engineering, all while wearing that same gold shirt).
And just what does the Federation have against purple and orange, anyway? And since the gold was supposed to be green, why wasn't there any actual yellow/gold out there and why didn't they add green back to the mix?
I think the show problem was they had only a set number of costumes and never really guidelines on who wore what other than the mains wore the same color each time. Hence Spock blue, Bones medical blue (Had short sleeves), Scotty red, etc. Everyone else was put into a uniform that more or less fit. (Some female uniforms were tight and others almost baggy. Note the woman getting married in Balance of Terror.)
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Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
Well if its any consolation for TWoK Uniforms they got mad specific
Lol, I'd really like to see them make that Armored security outfit, enlisted uniforms and excursion jacket ingame.
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Kinda glad when they did that.
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The question was if it would be accurate for the Captain to be wearing Gold. I gave an answer based upon accuracy.
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except they didn't. Chekhov had a green gray collar like Uhura and Sulu had a brown collar like Scotty.
Yes you did, and I elaborated on it as to how it changed to the Captain wearing the Gold instead of the Green; which was included in my full response. So yes, it would be accurate for the Captain to wear Gold, just as it would be accurate for Medical from TNG and on to wear Teal.