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this is a rant, sorry Trendy =/

i just need to get this off my chest, i am soooo REDACTED mad that they added that Warbird as the lockbox prize, me and many other Rommies have been waiting for such a long time for a fullblooded Romulan carrier, and when the feds got the Jupiter (which i have had a lot of fun with) i honestly had hope for an RRF carrier, and when we finally get one, it is a REDACTED lockbox drop! sorry for the rant, but this just REDACTED me off sooo much! i have normally never had anything against lockbox ships. in fact, i own a lot of them, but that is because they were not faction specific, this just feels like an attempt to suck as much cash out of us RRF players as possible.
again, sorry for the rant.
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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
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  • imadude3imadude3 Member Posts: 825 Arc User
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    well congrats, you lightened my mood a little :)
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,661 Arc User
    Yes, it is frustrating. I'd much rather have our-timeline Romulan and KDF C-Store ships. But even Lobi ships would be better than lock box.
  • ccs46ccs46 Member Posts: 117 Arc User
    One Positive though is that all of the New 31st Century Ships are Usable by all factions! :smile:
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Arc User
    This is such a dishonest cash grab and just show how much this company sucksssss
  • thekodanarmada#7342 thekodanarmada Member Posts: 1,631 Arc User
    Work on your lede.

    Did not read.
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  • delerouxdeleroux Member Posts: 478 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    The fact that the only KDF/Rom-specific ships of this expansion were stuffed into a lockbox is really, really TRIBBLE, IMO. I mean, we couldn't even get 1 faction ship on the c-store for this "expansion"--which scarcely even acknowledges our existence anyway? A single ship per faction is too much to expect? Really?

    And as if that wasn't enough, for KDF and Rom's in particular, faction-specific ships are much, much more out of reach for most of us due to factional imbalances and the game's economy. They're both sitting in the 700 million credit range, and aren't likely to go below that any time soon, if ever. The only hope most of us will ever have for getting one of those ships is to see another infinity box flood with them included in the rewards, but even then they'll still likely hover around the 400-500m range, assuming they even drop much in price at all.
  • imadude3imadude3 Member Posts: 825 Arc User
    Work on your lede.

    Did not read.

    not related to topic.
    will ignore.
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    If it's any consolation, this is the Kelvin Timeline T'Laru Warbird. Just as there was a Kelvin Timeline Connie, there might also be a Prime Timeline T'Laru Warbird (and D4x Raider for that matter).

    Not saying Cryptic will or won't do that, but the opportunity is there.​​
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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    Trendy is off doing other things mostly now, so ya just wasted yer breath.
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  • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    azrael605 wrote: »
    Geez, these guys are a broken record, different day, same old whines.

    yeah and all these people crying about people whining think they'ld get tired after a while.


    if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    At least the OP refrained from making this a poll.
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  • magusofborgmagusofborg Member Posts: 186 Arc User
    bergins wrote: »
    At least the OP refrained from making this a poll.
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  • gradiigradii Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    bergins wrote: »
    At least the OP refrained from making this a poll.

    That would have been so -REDACTED-

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    Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
    he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
    In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
    He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
    He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
    He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
    He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
  • asuran14asuran14 Member Posts: 2,335 Arc User
    I agree that it is terrible that the only two faction-specific ships for the KDF/Rom factions are in a lockbox, and than what is also terrible is to have no consolation lobi-ship prize for them either. I mean I would have been fine with a updated/reskinned Dhelan or even a shrunken down Narada-designed cruiser-type ship for the romulan, and then either a battle-cruiser or science ship (maybe a Kelvin-universe Orion, gorn, or Nausicaan designed ship) as the lobi-ships. THough with the low-pops of the two secondary factions it is not a surprize to see, but I do hoppe with the addition of the console sto players we might see more developement
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  • trillbuffettrillbuffet Member Posts: 861 Arc User
    Yeah they just aren't that great of ships where I would put much time or resources into acquiring myself.

    Then again lockboxes on neverwinter are a lot better managed where as drop rates in STO are insanely low. If anything with the low populations of KDF and Romulan Republic there should be a better way to acquire these because most KDF are long time players that would do lockboxes to get quite a few of them but what it takes just to get 1 these days it'll be one of those great ideas on paper but will flop in their metrics especially with the insane pricing hitting head on with a record high dilithium exchange rate. The only other rant I would have is the ship masteries I'd love to use ships like the negh'tev and the kor on almost all my KDF but I just don't find the motivation to do it 20+ times for the same ship.
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    I have to ask a super duper serious question here:

    This has been established in other threads that AoY is NOT an expansion. It's a glorified tutorial.

    As such, how can anyone expect to get faction specific ships in a pack tied to a federation tutorial? Has that ever happened? What's the precedent for such an action? That this new tutorial supplied ANY ships, let alone a pack with three faction neutral ships, seems to be kind of an amazing thing right?

    When in the past has a revamped tutorial ever provided a ship pack? Let alone one so big and one that comes with 3 faction neutral ships?

    The lockbox is a lockbox and would have been released as a lockbox regardless of anything else. It's July. Star Trek Beyond comes out in July so the July Lockbox is tied in to that and that lockbox has some faction specific alternatives.

    But that lockbox isn't related to the AoY tutorial that was released.

    So please tell me how this Tutorial is anything to be upset about? As far as Tutorials go, it's one of the best Tutorials in the game. And blows away the standard Fed Tut and the KDF Tut and I think is at least on par with the Rom Tut.
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    edited July 2016
    EDIT: Double Post. Sorry
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  • imadude3imadude3 Member Posts: 825 Arc User
    I have to ask a super duper serious question here:

    This has been established in other threads that AoY is NOT an expansion. It's a glorified tutorial.

    As such, how can anyone expect to get faction specific ships in a pack tied to a federation tutorial? Has that ever happened? What's the precedent for such an action? That this new tutorial supplied ANY ships, let alone a pack with three faction neutral ships, seems to be kind of an amazing thing right?

    When in the past has a revamped tutorial ever provided a ship pack? Let alone one so big and one that comes with 3 faction neutral ships?

    The lockbox is a lockbox and would have been released as a lockbox regardless of anything else. It's July. Star Trek Beyond comes out in July so the July Lockbox is tied in to that and that lockbox has some faction specific alternatives.

    But that lockbox isn't related to the AoY tutorial that was released.

    So please tell me how this Tutorial is anything to be upset about? As far as Tutorials go, it's one of the best Tutorials in the game. And blows away the standard Fed Tut and the KDF Tut and I think is at least on par with the Rom Tut.

    im confused as to how this is related to my rant, seeing as it was about feeling cheated out of finally getting an RRF carrier, can you elaborate on how this is relevant please?
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  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    imadude3 wrote: »
    I have to ask a super duper serious question here:

    This has been established in other threads that AoY is NOT an expansion. It's a glorified tutorial.

    As such, how can anyone expect to get faction specific ships in a pack tied to a federation tutorial? Has that ever happened? What's the precedent for such an action? That this new tutorial supplied ANY ships, let alone a pack with three faction neutral ships, seems to be kind of an amazing thing right?

    When in the past has a revamped tutorial ever provided a ship pack? Let alone one so big and one that comes with 3 faction neutral ships?

    The lockbox is a lockbox and would have been released as a lockbox regardless of anything else. It's July. Star Trek Beyond comes out in July so the July Lockbox is tied in to that and that lockbox has some faction specific alternatives.

    But that lockbox isn't related to the AoY tutorial that was released.

    So please tell me how this Tutorial is anything to be upset about? As far as Tutorials go, it's one of the best Tutorials in the game. And blows away the standard Fed Tut and the KDF Tut and I think is at least on par with the Rom Tut.

    im confused as to how this is related to my rant, seeing as it was about feeling cheated out of finally getting an RRF carrier, can you elaborate on how this is relevant please?

    Well the base complaint is that AoY didn't supply any faction specific ships. But AoY is just a ship pack tied into a Federation Tutorial. How could it possibly contain any Klingon or Romulan ships in it due to what it is?

    It's not an expansion. It's a tutorial. And a tutorial for the federation. The ship pack contains only federation ships (and three faction neutral ships) because it's a federation tutorial.

    And then the lockbox, is completely separate. And does have faction specific ships in it, but it was, has been and always will be another lockbox in a long line of lockboxes.

    So I guess I simply don't understand your complaint. At all. You are upset that a Fed Tutorial didn't provide any Romulan ships? Why would it have?
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  • imadude3imadude3 Member Posts: 825 Arc User
    imadude3 wrote: »
    I have to ask a super duper serious question here:

    This has been established in other threads that AoY is NOT an expansion. It's a glorified tutorial.

    As such, how can anyone expect to get faction specific ships in a pack tied to a federation tutorial? Has that ever happened? What's the precedent for such an action? That this new tutorial supplied ANY ships, let alone a pack with three faction neutral ships, seems to be kind of an amazing thing right?

    When in the past has a revamped tutorial ever provided a ship pack? Let alone one so big and one that comes with 3 faction neutral ships?

    The lockbox is a lockbox and would have been released as a lockbox regardless of anything else. It's July. Star Trek Beyond comes out in July so the July Lockbox is tied in to that and that lockbox has some faction specific alternatives.

    But that lockbox isn't related to the AoY tutorial that was released.

    So please tell me how this Tutorial is anything to be upset about? As far as Tutorials go, it's one of the best Tutorials in the game. And blows away the standard Fed Tut and the KDF Tut and I think is at least on par with the Rom Tut.

    im confused as to how this is related to my rant, seeing as it was about feeling cheated out of finally getting an RRF carrier, can you elaborate on how this is relevant please?

    Well the base complaint is that AoY didn't supply any faction specific ships. But AoY is just a ship pack tied into a Federation Tutorial. How could it possibly contain any Klingon or Romulan ships in it due to what it is?

    It's not an expansion. It's a tutorial. And a tutorial for the federation. The ship pack contains only federation ships (and three faction neutral ships) because it's a federation tutorial.

    And then the lockbox, is completely separate. And does have faction specific ships in it, but it was, has been and always will be another lockbox in a long line of lockboxes.

    So I guess I simply don't understand your complaint. At all. You are upset that a Fed Tutorial didn't provide any Romulan ships? Why would it have?

    i think you might have missunderstood me then, i was not complaining about "a fed tutorial not providing any romulan ships" im complaining about the Lockbox prize specifically being a Romulan carrier, something us RRF players have asked for since the Jupiter and a long time before that too.
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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    I guess the answer is that by putting it in a Lockbox, They expect to make more money than just outright selling it in the C-Store.
    And that would probably be based on the number of folks that actually play as a Romulan.

    i.e. "Metrics" ...
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  • alcyoneserenealcyoneserene Member Posts: 2,414 Arc User
    OP, we've seen this before too, with the Annorax limited time R&D Promo as the first xfaction science ship (and first science dreadnought) that the 'other' factions finally had access too, followed by the KSV which was one time exclusive around the time the 900 lobi Paradox appeared (a Terran sci dread clearly inspired by Mobius, in turn inspired by Wells, meaning Fed ship design with alternate red lighting interior), followed by xfaction c-store sci Eternal that's really yet another futuristic Fed design in the direct lines of the Wells.

    So our KDF and Roms might finally have one (or two if including KSV) T6 Sci ships not lobi/lockbox/promo, they aren't even KDF or Romulan in design or in stats (battle cloak, singularity core and abilities)!

    The significant difference between the release of the (still missing) Rom & KDF T6 sci and carrier is the kelvin box already contains a specialty ship Romulan carrier, meaning if they ever design a c-store ship, it'll be a very long ways away, and unlikely to be specialty, at least not full intel ship. It's also missing subsystem targeting unless they neglected to list it in the stats, and to me fails on design skin.

    TL:DR it does not bode well still for KDF & Roms in the era of Feds.
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  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    The lockbox thing is a bummer. :(

    Reality: I need to pay the plumber this month...not a game. LOL!
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  • p3nnyw1se#1639 p3nnyw1se Member Posts: 37 Arc User
    what does this mean?
  • imadude3imadude3 Member Posts: 825 Arc User
    what does this mean?

    TL;DR: Romulan players have been waiting a long time for a proper carrier (2 hanger bays) that is not of alien design, and they add it through a lockbox instead of the store like they did with the Jupiter, and im REDACTED about it.
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