That's not exactly true...
Mr. Gecko did not say an emphatic "NO Connie" in his last two interviews.
He said he could neither confirm nor deny the question.
Dancing around the subject at hand, when up till this point it was always just plain NO.
To me this means that there has been some sort of fundamental change in CBS and Cryptic's thinking about this matter.
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Yeah, still my prediction that we'll have the Connie answer, once and for all, come September-ish...
Oh, and as for the I.S.S. prefix thing? That will almost certainly not happen, even if there is a T6 Connie of some sort. Those are really two separate things.
Yes. From the looks of things, we'll be getting a T6 JJ Connie with the new update. So, you know, not only do we get a Connie, we get a better updated model.
I think a T6 TOS connie is quite probable now compared to the past, and most likely it would be a TOS faction Exclusive.
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Chances are we will indirectly get the T6 TOS Connie. Get the Tier 6 JJprise from the JJ Universe Lockbox, Lobi Store, or Research Pack reward according to the rumors going around now a days and slap on the Tier 1 TOS Constitution costume on the JJprise. If they are letting us use 23rd Century ship costumes on 27th Century ships, then the whole point of no Tier 6 Connie loses all meaning.
I have some doubts that we'll get an AU Constitution but not a Prime Universe Constitution for endgame. I think if it happens, it will be both. Or... Threece? The Refit kinda needs to get in there, too.
But who knows. Maybe CBS/Paramount will have (or already has) an overtly specific agreement with Cryptic on what will be allowed and what not, and might exclude fan favorites. If so, it won't be for the lack of trying by Cryptic, because they know they can sell them all to us and make good money.
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What if the Enterprise-J or something akin to that is a free playable ship. And can skin swap with the T1 cruiser? And the lockbox rumors are just an added bonus twist to the whole enchilada?
What if the Enterprise-J or something akin to that is a free playable ship. And can skin swap with the T1 cruiser? And the lockbox rumors are just an added bonus twist to the whole enchilada?
The best of all worlds!
The J? Wouldn't that require a MASSIVE downsizing when you shift skins? Or do you mean the JJ-prise?
What if the Enterprise-J or something akin to that is a free playable ship. And can skin swap with the T1 cruiser? And the lockbox rumors are just an added bonus twist to the whole enchilada?
The best of all worlds!
The J? Wouldn't that require a MASSIVE downsizing when you shift skins? Or do you mean the JJ-prise?
I mean the Enterprise J. And really I'm only talking about a non-massively oversized version of it. Basically a cruiser reminiscent of it in terms of look, if not size. That way there's a T1 Cruiser and a T6 Cruiser that can share skins. AND toss in the rumors of a Cruiser from the current films and all three could share skins. And maybe even share skins with the other T1 cruiser variants. Making a lot of different people super duper happy. Whether it's an Exeter, a Constitution of many varieties, an Excalibur, whatever. They all come together visually in the core of one temporal cruiser ship that allows people to sport any of the looks they like.
I certainly hope the Kelvin Timeline Constitution class is not a lotterybox ship....if they have to then let it be through some other means.
I like the idea of putting a T1 connie skin on a T6 temporal whatever.
I'm betting that the JJ Connie will be C-Store and the Vengeance will be lock box.
Either one will probably set price records that make the Annorax look cheap.
really? I'm betting jj connie is lock box grand prize or lobi and the vengence being either lobi, promo, or that rarer then promo extra ship in the lockbox thing. more money grabbing that way.
agree on record setting prices thing.
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What if the Enterprise-J or something akin to that is a free playable ship. And can skin swap with the T1 cruiser? And the lockbox rumors are just an added bonus twist to the whole enchilada?
The best of all worlds!
The J? Wouldn't that require a MASSIVE downsizing when you shift skins? Or do you mean the JJ-prise?
I mean the Enterprise J. And really I'm only talking about a non-massively oversized version of it. Basically a cruiser reminiscent of it in terms of look, if not size. That way there's a T1 Cruiser and a T6 Cruiser that can share skins. AND toss in the rumors of a Cruiser from the current films and all three could share skins. And maybe even share skins with the other T1 cruiser variants. Making a lot of different people super duper happy. Whether it's an Exeter, a Constitution of many varieties, an Excalibur, whatever. They all come together visually in the core of one temporal cruiser ship that allows people to sport any of the looks they like.
Ahhh, ok. Now it makes sense! Thanks for explaining.
listen people. i know some of you desperately want to believe the jjships are going to be in the cstore, because you dont wan to have to gamble for them. but thats not how its going to work. the people who found these ships in the game files found them in the files for lockbox 20. its already been decided by cryptic. like it or not they are going to milk these ships for every penny they can, and you are going to have to gamble if you want them
listen people. i know some of you desperately want to believe the jjships are going to be in the cstore, because you dont wan to have to gamble for them. but thats not how its going to work. the people who found these ships in the game files found them in the files for lockbox 20. its already been decided by cryptic. like it or not they are going to milk these ships for every penny they can, and you are going to have to gamble if you want them
I don't expect them to be in the store, which is fine. I wouldn't mind having the Vengence, but no way I'll open boxes to get it.
Would I like it to be in the C-Store? Yes.
Do I expect that I'll get what I want? No.
Which is why I'll just skip it and stick with the ships I already have.
Lockbox ships are a rip off. If it's not account wide, I'm not interested. It will surely be a nice cash infusion for Cryptic though.
The JJprise is going to be the Lobi Store ship for every faction while the Vengeance/Narada/D4 class (Klingon ship from Into Darkness) ship will be the Lockbox ship. It is either that or create new JJ Universe ships for the Klingons and Romulans. Of course, the Narada, Kelvin, and Jellyfish could be C-Store ships since they originated from the STO universe as far as we know. After all, the STO lore incorporates the Narada and Jellyfish and the Kelvin is supposedly from before the timeline split if you assume that Spock and Nero traveled back in time and not to another reality that looks like the 23rd Century. There is the possibility that Star Trek Beyond will introduce Romulan and Klingon ships and we will get a sneak preview provided that the JJ Universe Lockbox is released with AoY.
What if the Enterprise-J or something akin to that is a free playable ship. And can skin swap with the T1 cruiser? And the lockbox rumors are just an added bonus twist to the whole enchilada?
The best of all worlds!
The J? Wouldn't that require a MASSIVE downsizing when you shift skins? Or do you mean the JJ-prise?
All the 29th and 31st century ships are far bigger than their 23rd century counterparts. The Daedalus is about the size of the Defiant, the Nautilus looks to be larger than the Odyssey.
Also consider that there is no reason at all to make the Ent J 'two miles' in size because it was never seen onscreen.
Designers behind the screens can throw any sizes they wish around but if it doesn't make it onscreen it can be safely ignored.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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Why not? Look at the Jem'Hadar ships from the JH lockbox, you saw Feds and Klingons flying them. I don't care what has been said about them being found in the "files for lock box 20", until I see evidence on Cryptic's part for that statement, I'm firmly in the camp for them being a C-Store release.
Not only that, but more than enough people have been clamouring for an endgame Connie since Day 1 of this game - to release the most coveted/desired ship in the game through a lock box would be a humongous slap in the face, and the catalyst that will undoubtedly cause practically every player in the game to leave. If they do release it, it WILL be a C-Store release. There is still another unmentioned ship of supposedly-Ferengi design that was there - does that mean that that ship will be a lock box or C-store release? Not by a long shot.
> @starkaos said: The JJprise is going to be the Lobi Store ship for every faction...
either you wrote that wrong, or you are stoned. because there is no way in hell they are going to let klingons and romulans fly around in the jjprise
Just look at how many Romulan and Klingon ships that the new Star Trek movies have shown. There is the D4 Scout ship and the Narada. Although, the Narada could be classified as a Romulan C-Store ship since it came from the future or some other reality. Unless Cryptic creates 1 or 2 Romulan JJ Universe ships and 1 Klingon JJ Universe ship, then one of the Starfleet JJ Universe ships will have to be shared with the other factions. Also, it would be fun to have the JJprise as a cross-faction ship. The Klingons could consider it as a spoil of war.
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Mr. Gecko did not say an emphatic "NO Connie" in his last two interviews.
He said he could neither confirm nor deny the question.
Dancing around the subject at hand, when up till this point it was always just plain NO.
To me this means that there has been some sort of fundamental change in CBS and Cryptic's thinking about this matter.
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Yeah, still my prediction that we'll have the Connie answer, once and for all, come September-ish...
Oh, and as for the I.S.S. prefix thing? That will almost certainly not happen, even if there is a T6 Connie of some sort. Those are really two separate things.
But who knows. Maybe CBS/Paramount will have (or already has) an overtly specific agreement with Cryptic on what will be allowed and what not, and might exclude fan favorites. If so, it won't be for the lack of trying by Cryptic, because they know they can sell them all to us and make good money.
The best of all worlds!
I like the idea of putting a T1 connie skin on a T6 temporal whatever.
The J? Wouldn't that require a MASSIVE downsizing when you shift skins? Or do you mean the JJ-prise?
I mean the Enterprise J. And really I'm only talking about a non-massively oversized version of it. Basically a cruiser reminiscent of it in terms of look, if not size. That way there's a T1 Cruiser and a T6 Cruiser that can share skins. AND toss in the rumors of a Cruiser from the current films and all three could share skins. And maybe even share skins with the other T1 cruiser variants. Making a lot of different people super duper happy. Whether it's an Exeter, a Constitution of many varieties, an Excalibur, whatever. They all come together visually in the core of one temporal cruiser ship that allows people to sport any of the looks they like.
I'm betting that the JJ Connie will be C-Store and the Vengeance will be lock box.
Either one will probably set price records that make the Annorax look cheap.
really? I'm betting jj connie is lock box grand prize or lobi and the vengence being either lobi, promo, or that rarer then promo extra ship in the lockbox thing. more money grabbing that way.
agree on record setting prices thing.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
Ahhh, ok. Now it makes sense! Thanks for explaining.
I don't expect them to be in the store, which is fine. I wouldn't mind having the Vengence, but no way I'll open boxes to get it.
Would I like it to be in the C-Store? Yes.
Do I expect that I'll get what I want? No.
Which is why I'll just skip it and stick with the ships I already have.
Lockbox ships are a rip off. If it's not account wide, I'm not interested. It will surely be a nice cash infusion for Cryptic though.
All the 29th and 31st century ships are far bigger than their 23rd century counterparts. The Daedalus is about the size of the Defiant, the Nautilus looks to be larger than the Odyssey.
Also consider that there is no reason at all to make the Ent J 'two miles' in size because it was never seen onscreen.
Designers behind the screens can throw any sizes they wish around but if it doesn't make it onscreen it can be safely ignored.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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either you wrote that wrong, or you are stoned. because there is no way in hell they are going to let klingons and romulans fly around in the jjprise
Not only that, but more than enough people have been clamouring for an endgame Connie since Day 1 of this game - to release the most coveted/desired ship in the game through a lock box would be a humongous slap in the face, and the catalyst that will undoubtedly cause practically every player in the game to leave. If they do release it, it WILL be a C-Store release. There is still another unmentioned ship of supposedly-Ferengi design that was there - does that mean that that ship will be a lock box or C-store release? Not by a long shot.
keep hopin that cryptic will "do the right thing".
keep hopin that they will choose 'what do the players want' over 'the most money they can make'
but after you get that 'slap in the face', dont say i didnt warn you.
and one more thing. last week mr salami inferno did an interview.
he said that lockboxes allowed them to introduce unusual ships in a limited way that doesnt break immersion.
plenty of people hate the jjtrek. plenty of people dont want to see jjprises everywhere they go in game.
having the ship in a lockbox will limit the amount of them, like he said. yep.
That's always been the point of lockboxes, yeah. To allow ships that CBS doesn't want everyone flying around in.
Just look at how many Romulan and Klingon ships that the new Star Trek movies have shown. There is the D4 Scout ship and the Narada. Although, the Narada could be classified as a Romulan C-Store ship since it came from the future or some other reality. Unless Cryptic creates 1 or 2 Romulan JJ Universe ships and 1 Klingon JJ Universe ship, then one of the Starfleet JJ Universe ships will have to be shared with the other factions. Also, it would be fun to have the JJprise as a cross-faction ship. The Klingons could consider it as a spoil of war.