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High zen exchange rate vs dil sink and more power creep?

postinggumpostinggum Member Posts: 1,117 Arc User
Looks like the game has a hit a point of:
1 Power creep
2 High dil to zen exchange rates as a norm
3 A lack of willingness or ability on the part of cryptic to produce smarter elite level play

So if only the first two can be addressed, what do you want: cheap zen with more power creep or status quo? I say this taking the view that most players won't throw tons of dil at cosmetic unlocks.

They could do fixes like special reward stfs behind a dil to enter pay wall, or new fleet holding, buts it tough to see those eating a lot of dil for very long, especially with players having six figures plus of refined dil stashed.

High zen exchange rate vs dil sink and more power creep? 16 votes

Accept that dil to zen is high and constrain power creep
56%
ikonn#1068tigrovaya13akulakyle223catevilmark444fatherrocknixbooxleemwatsonironguardian24freightstopper 9 votes
More power and more zen, dps arms race gets racier - cube 1 shotting uber turret or whatever
43%
alexraptorrrepetitiveepickodachikunotc10bamaresh1starmanjtrekpuppy 7 votes

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    davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,538 Arc User
    Ah, so you're very fond of the No-Win Scenario :)
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    leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,366 Arc User
    Accept that dil to zen is high and constrain power creep
    This poll is slightly confusing, and come on, only 2 options OP!? I'm sorry but you are not very clear in what you are asking for at all.

    Anyway, we don't need more DPS at all for crying out loud!
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
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    thekodanarmada#7342 thekodanarmada Member Posts: 1,631 Arc User
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    davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,538 Arc User
    Godzilla gets my vote!

    https://youtu.be/pgwcti1gAkY
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    reiklingraiderreiklingraider Member Posts: 209 Arc User
    Confusing poll and I don't think you suggestions would go over very well with the player base. Zen market has been high enough for me not to waste my dil on it and just keep stock piling. In the future there will be some correction in the market. Best thing to do now is wait it out imho.
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    evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    Accept that dil to zen is high and constrain power creep
    Confusing poll, chose the option that sounds like it would give me the most dilithium for my zen.
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    postinggumpostinggum Member Posts: 1,117 Arc User
    The way I see it the exchange rate stays high unless:
    1 A dil sink is added or dil drops are greatly reduced. Simple making dil rare drops the exchange rate but not the effort required to earn zen, which is the real issue not the nominal price.
    2 The only effective dil sink grants players gear for more deeps

    1+2 imply a choice between the status quo, which has everyone bitching, or a new dil funded dps race. Just wondered which undesireable outcome people preferred.

    Outcomes in which cryptic develop a ton of new challenging material with smart AI, are about as likely as a fat star trek nerd getting an actual orion girlfriend.
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    r5e4w3q2r5e4w3q2 Member Posts: 341 Arc User
    The need to stop moving things form EC/Dil to Zen/Lobi. Mirror Universe costumes probably would have cost Dil rather then Lobi a couple years ago and it use to be you could by ships with Dil. No need for out of control power creep or destroying the market.​​
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    postinggumpostinggum Member Posts: 1,117 Arc User
    Good game design option - more likely to see Jeri Ryan riding a unicorn to receive the best TV show ever award for Voyager..
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    rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,119 Community Moderator
    Well... this poll is rather narrow and somewhat biased. Doesn't take into consideration that some people are trying to get a uniform, character slots, or even a new ship. Its either "Yes to Power Creep" or "No to Power Creep".

    New ship doesn't = I win. Can have a Scimitar doesn't equal instant OP.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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    nikeixnikeix Member Posts: 3,972 Arc User
    False dichotomy is false?
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    seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    This is the worst, most poorly written and biased poll I have seen in a long time.

    No vote, for obvious reasons.
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    thekodanarmada#7342 thekodanarmada Member Posts: 1,631 Arc User
    This is the worst, most poorly written and biased poll I have seen in a long time.

    No vote, for obvious reasons.

    It inspired me to write my first poll from its sheer badness.
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    orondisorondis Member Posts: 1,447 Arc User
    Hit a point of powercreep? It's been at that point for YEARS now!

    Outside of the UI, part of the lag issues are caused by all the fragging powers they keep adding. Buff bars now stretch to almost the width of a screen! Any more powers and I wouldn't need beam arrays, my toon could just get out of his ship, grab the buff bar and whack the Borg to death with it!
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    rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,119 Community Moderator
    orondis wrote: »
    Any more powers and I wouldn't need beam arrays, my toon could just get out of his ship, grab the buff bar and whack the Borg to death with it!

    THat made me lol.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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    alexraptorralexraptorr Member Posts: 1,192 Arc User
    More power and more zen, dps arms race gets racier - cube 1 shotting uber turret or whatever
    Fully Customizable player owned homes would make for a nice dilithium sink IMO. Their all the rage in other MMORPG's and would not contribute to power creep.
    "If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it's not for the timid." - Q
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    mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    Power creep reached such a level a new tier had to come out to placate the power creep, but it is only a band-aid as you can see, adding another tier will only do the same

    so does cryptic avoid the issue once more or do they actually do something that will no doubt anger some of the community for the sake of balance which game has not seen at all since i have been around.

    too many people are blinded by what they think is balance, i suspect even some devs as well, a fresh point of view would show that maybe there are things that could see a balance that otherwise would of remained out of sight of some people because of how blindsided they are with their own point of view.

    businesses have to adapt or they could stagnate and die. games like this also need to adapt or it could lead to it falling behind its direct competitors like SWTOR, EVE and Elite for example. but of course these type of comments are never paid attention to when calling for change, because cryptic does what cryptic wants.

    too bad though and something of a shame.

    as for the poll, i couldnt care to even notice it
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    scrooge69scrooge69 Member Posts: 1,108 Arc User
    pointless poll?
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    whamhammer1whamhammer1 Member Posts: 2,290 Arc User
    When less people offer to sell Zen than there are to buy it, the price increases, end of story.
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    rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,119 Community Moderator
    Nothing wrong with power creep it keeps the game interesting.

    The alternative is stagnation.

    We have both of these in game right now, and who say's it's unbalanced?

    PvPers. ;)
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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    captainoblivouscaptainoblivous Member Posts: 2,284 Arc User
    I vote for alcohol!!!
    I need a beer.

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