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I have leveled my captain in TOS up to 5 and completed the tutorial. First thing I am confused about is ESD. Is this the ESD that all TOS captains will be going to? I have not been able to find exchange access or really anything but a tailor and ship merchant. i noticed sector space is set for the 23rd century, I understand that but there are alot of things missing it seems like. Obviously it would not make sense to warp to the current ESD because of the timeline, but where is our market place at?
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  • nateham101#2745 nateham101 Member Posts: 420 Arc User
    And another question...how are fleets going to work for TOS? It wouldnt make sense to be able to join current fleets, as they do not exist yet. Are we going to start over? Reputations will be different as well?
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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,968 Arc User
    Maybe they are blocking the exchange, bank, etc until we go to the future, to keep everything TOS
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  • nateham101#2745 nateham101 Member Posts: 420 Arc User
    Maybe they are blocking the exchange, bank, etc until we go to the future, to keep everything TOS

    I would hope that we are not going to the future. That would pretty much mean that all we did was start another federation character and would arrive in antiquated vessels. I have a few fed toons that have the original TOS uniforms, that is pretty much what this expansion would be. Leveling up in a few new story missions, then basically adding another regular fed character to our list. very confusing atm.
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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,968 Arc User
    They've already confirmed in multiple interviews that TOS characters will eventually join the regular feds in the future
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  • nateham101#2745 nateham101 Member Posts: 420 Arc User
    They've already confirmed in multiple interviews that TOS characters will eventually join the regular feds in the future

    Darn.. :-(
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  • nateham101#2745 nateham101 Member Posts: 420 Arc User
    Basically then, this TOS theme is only temporary until we end up in the current timeline that our characters are currently in. The expansion is just a temp theme that is cool and fun for a little while, with a few good stories and then its over. Would hope that they could have kept it all TOS. New fleet startups, completely new story arcs, ships and everything.
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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,968 Arc User
    I'm sure foundry authors will help keep it alive, hopefully they allow us to go back to TOS ESD and Sector Space
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  • captsolcaptsol Member Posts: 921 Arc User
    The TOS Universe only lasts until the Battle of Caleb IV then you're sent to 2410 where you pick up things at Lt. Commander like any other STO character complete with starting with saving the Azura.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    I'm sure foundry authors will help keep it alive, hopefully they allow us to go back to TOS ESD and Sector Space
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  • nateham101#2745 nateham101 Member Posts: 420 Arc User
    edited May 2016
    I see now. So there will be no T6 TOS era ships or anything. When we get past Caleb IV, we become just another fed captain. Are they adding anything new in the expansion for all of our other level 60 captains? i would imagine that there will be many players who have no interest in this TOS arc.
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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,968 Arc User
    There's going to be another story arc for everyone else
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  • phyloephyloe Member Posts: 35 Arc User
    I would liked to have remained in the TOS timeline a bit longer. I am not sure that a few missions that get us to the Klingon War arc really needed a new, limited Federation faction. I know there is more to come so I am cautiously optimistic that it won't be 50 levels of rehashing old content.
  • nateham101#2745 nateham101 Member Posts: 420 Arc User
    edited May 2016
    phyloe wrote: »
    I would liked to have remained in the TOS timeline a bit longer. I am not sure that a few missions that get us to the Klingon War arc really needed a new, limited Federation faction. I know there is more to come so I am cautiously optimistic that it won't be 50 levels of rehashing old content.

    Exactly. I have no interest in going through the leveling process on yet another character. Getting to 50 in TOS era would be something I would do, avoiding all the same old story arcs that we have had, but as it is now, I have 9 level 60's and no desire to do it again, not to mention the rep grinding and gear upgrades. I could have seen myself leveling up a new Cardassian though :pensive:
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  • kirimuffinkirimuffin Member Posts: 695 Arc User
    The expansion is just a temp theme that is cool and fun for a little while, with a few good stories and then its over.

    Not exactly. There are supposed to be some new missions still coming that are available for all factions (and Leeta's involved in them, somehow). I'm guessing that's where the bulk of the new content is going to be.
    I see now. So there will be no T6 TOS era ships or anything.

    There will, sort of, in that the T6 Fed temporal ships will be able to use TOS skins from the T2-T5 temporal ships (as seen in the Temporal Agent Special Pack).

    (That having been said, I do agree with the overall sentiment that there should be more to the TOS faction. As it is, it seems quite pointless, and is even more of a "fraction" than the Republic.)
  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited May 2016
    Call me disappointed...

    I was hoping for more.

    Four missions in TOS then dumped into 2409... Bummer.

    Guess when this goes live, I'll delay doing the final mission as long as I can, just to be able to use the TOS ships for as long as I can in the 2270 maps.

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  • superherofansuperherofan Member Posts: 342 Arc User
    Yeah, I am really, really disappointed as well. The Romulans had way more faction-specific content before folding back into the same ol' same ol'.

    We better be able to go back to that time period, and there better be a Hell of a lot more missions there as well.

    Really regret picking up that Agents of Yesteryear Pack right now.
  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,968 Arc User
    They could've at least thrown in some Delta Rising style patrol missions for the TOS era, to stretch the story out some ...
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  • kirimuffinkirimuffin Member Posts: 695 Arc User
    They could've at least thrown in some Delta Rising style patrol missions for the TOS era, to stretch the story out some ...

    For what it's worth, there are some marked systems on that sector map that the existing missions never take us to, so it could be that we'll end up coming back in time later on to do something in those systems. We can hope, anyway.
  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    Yeah, I am really, really disappointed as well. The Romulans had way more faction-specific content before folding back into the same ol' same ol'.

    We better be able to go back to that time period, and there better be a Hell of a lot more missions there as well.

    Really regret picking up that Agents of Yesteryear Pack right now.

    I'm still going to get the big AoY pack, just cause I really want those ships and the Space-Barbie stuff.

    I've got $200 put away for a rainy-day, so some time in June, I plan on having a downpour.

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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    kirimuffin wrote: »
    They could've at least thrown in some Delta Rising style patrol missions for the TOS era, to stretch the story out some ...
    For what it's worth, there are some marked systems on that sector map that the existing missions never take us to, so it could be that we'll end up coming back in time later on to do something in those systems. We can hope, anyway.
    Yeah.... It has the VENDORIAN HW marked on the map and if you try flying to it you run into an inviswall (IN SECTOR SPACE!!!) and get a popup about having to stay out of Romulan space. Hmmm.....
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  • mike03ucmike03uc Member Posts: 227 Arc User
    kirimuffin wrote: »
    They could've at least thrown in some Delta Rising style patrol missions for the TOS era, to stretch the story out some ...

    For what it's worth, there are some marked systems on that sector map that the existing missions never take us to, so it could be that we'll end up coming back in time later on to do something in those systems. We can hope, anyway.

    I certainly hope so. I was just getting used to the TOS world. All kinds of wacky, retro fun. It was kinda cool that your character is remembered *spoiler for anyone who hasn't played "Battle of Caleb IV" yet* as having gone down in a blaze of glory in classic TOS fashion, but it would have been cool to spend more time exploring the 23rd century.

    It does bear noting, however, that STO is always growing and expanding. What they've done here, by making the TOS Federation a playable faction, is provide themselves with a vast, totally new horizon for potential expansion. I'm willing to bet there will be a lot more TOS action in the future. Until then, at least it's nice to no longer be running around in a yellow jersey and those cretin pants.
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  • shailatshailat Member Posts: 478 Arc User
    mike03uc wrote: »
    kirimuffin wrote: »
    They could've at least thrown in some Delta Rising style patrol missions for the TOS era, to stretch the story out some ...

    For what it's worth, there are some marked systems on that sector map that the existing missions never take us to, so it could be that we'll end up coming back in time later on to do something in those systems. We can hope, anyway.

    I certainly hope so. I was just getting used to the TOS world. All kinds of wacky, retro fun. It was kinda cool that your character is remembered *spoiler for anyone who hasn't played "Battle of Caleb IV" yet* as having gone down in a blaze of glory in classic TOS fashion, but it would have been cool to spend more time exploring the 23rd century.

    It does bear noting, however, that STO is always growing and expanding. What they've done here, by making the TOS Federation a playable faction, is provide themselves with a vast, totally new horizon for potential expansion. I'm willing to bet there will be a lot more TOS action in the future. Until then, at least it's nice to no longer be running around in a yellow jersey and those cretin pants.

    I was aceually kinda choked up at that part, i was like heal , heal where is my heal!!!!! then it went to a cut screen and i was like ohhh, its ment to be this way.......
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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    I was actually winning...
    But then They dumped FIVE more Battle Cruisers on me and I was like WTF???

    Heh...
    My character got TOSsed.
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  • shantavishantavi Member Posts: 129 Arc User
    edited May 2016
    daveyny wrote: »
    Call me disappointed...

    I was hoping for more.

    Four missions in TOS then dumped into 2409... Bummer.

    Guess when this goes live, I'll delay doing the final mission as long as I can, just to be able to use the TOS ships for as long as I can in the 2270 maps.

    <sadface>

    So, again.. everybody is just missing all the new TOS faction only missions they're releasing on Tribble..


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  • phyloephyloe Member Posts: 35 Arc User
    shantavi wrote: »
    daveyny wrote: »
    Call me disappointed...

    I was hoping for more.

    Four missions in TOS then dumped into 2409... Bummer.

    Guess when this goes live, I'll delay doing the final mission as long as I can, just to be able to use the TOS ships for as long as I can in the 2270 maps.

    <sadface>

    So, again.. everybody is just missing all the new TOS faction only missions they're releasing on Tribble..

    Nobody is missing anything. After the missions (TOS), which are excellent by the way, you end up on ESD of 2409. This is not to say that there is not significantly more content on the way, or even more in the TOS era. It just would have been nice to spend more time in the TOS era before coming to the present.
  • shantavishantavi Member Posts: 129 Arc User
    edited May 2016
    phyloe wrote: »
    shantavi wrote: »
    daveyny wrote: »
    Call me disappointed...

    I was hoping for more.

    Four missions in TOS then dumped into 2409... Bummer.

    Guess when this goes live, I'll delay doing the final mission as long as I can, just to be able to use the TOS ships for as long as I can in the 2270 maps.

    <sadface>

    So, again.. everybody is just missing all the new TOS faction only missions they're releasing on Tribble..

    Nobody is missing anything. After the missions (TOS), which are excellent by the way, you end up on ESD of 2409. This is not to say that there is not significantly more content on the way, or even more in the TOS era. It just would have been nice to spend more time in the TOS era before coming to the present.

    "“Tangled Webs” takes 23rd century Starfleet officers to the unexplored Tholian Sector to discover these answers. This is the fourth episode available to temporal agents after the tutorial’s conclusion."

    This, right there, pretty much states there are at least 4 missions after the tutorial. Once more, they're putting things on the test sever in a fashion that's *not* representative of the finished product at the current time. If the patch were a week or three away, then this would most likely represent what's coming to Holodeck. But it's not. Things are so unfinished and rough right now, I find it nearly unfathomable that people expect this to be dropped onto Holodeck as is.. The Tribble test of LoR started in an extremely similar fashion before ending up the way it was.

    How about we, you know, give the devs a bit of time before jumping to conclusions that what we're seeing is in the finished, polished, ready to go form?


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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,968 Arc User
    shantavi wrote: »
    phyloe wrote: »
    shantavi wrote: »
    daveyny wrote: »
    Call me disappointed...

    I was hoping for more.

    Four missions in TOS then dumped into 2409... Bummer.

    Guess when this goes live, I'll delay doing the final mission as long as I can, just to be able to use the TOS ships for as long as I can in the 2270 maps.

    <sadface>

    So, again.. everybody is just missing all the new TOS faction only missions they're releasing on Tribble..

    Nobody is missing anything. After the missions (TOS), which are excellent by the way, you end up on ESD of 2409. This is not to say that there is not significantly more content on the way, or even more in the TOS era. It just would have been nice to spend more time in the TOS era before coming to the present.

    "“Tangled Webs” takes 23rd century Starfleet officers to the unexplored Tholian Sector to discover these answers. This is the fourth episode available to temporal agents after the tutorial’s conclusion."

    This, right there, pretty much states there are at least 4 missions after the tutorial. Once more, they're putting things on the test sever in a fashion that's *not* representative of the finished product at the current time. If the patch were a week or three away, then this would most likely represent what's coming to Holodeck. But it's not. Things are so unfinished and rough right now, I find it nearly unfathomable that people expect this to be dropped onto Holodeck as is.. The Tribble test of LoR started in an extremely similar fashion before ending up the way it was.

    How about we, you know, give the devs a bit of time before jumping to conclusions that what we're seeing is in the finished, polished, ready to go form?

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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    You'd show up just in time to have Kirk tell ya... "You missed it".
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  • phyloephyloe Member Posts: 35 Arc User
    edited May 2016
    shantavi wrote: »
    phyloe wrote: »
    shantavi wrote: »
    daveyny wrote: »
    Call me disappointed...

    I was hoping for more.

    Four missions in TOS then dumped into 2409... Bummer.

    Guess when this goes live, I'll delay doing the final mission as long as I can, just to be able to use the TOS ships for as long as I can in the 2270 maps.

    <sadface>

    So, again.. everybody is just missing all the new TOS faction only missions they're releasing on Tribble..

    Nobody is missing anything. After the missions (TOS), which are excellent by the way, you end up on ESD of 2409. This is not to say that there is not significantly more content on the way, or even more in the TOS era. It just would have been nice to spend more time in the TOS era before coming to the present.

    "“Tangled Webs” takes 23rd century Starfleet officers to the unexplored Tholian Sector to discover these answers. This is the fourth episode available to temporal agents after the tutorial’s conclusion."

    This, right there, pretty much states there are at least 4 missions after the tutorial. Once more, they're putting things on the test sever in a fashion that's *not* representative of the finished product at the current time. If the patch were a week or three away, then this would most likely represent what's coming to Holodeck. But it's not. Things are so unfinished and rough right now, I find it nearly unfathomable that people expect this to be dropped onto Holodeck as is.. The Tribble test of LoR started in an extremely similar fashion before ending up the way it was.

    How about we, you know, give the devs a bit of time before jumping to conclusions that what we're seeing is in the finished, polished, ready to go form?

    Either you are trolling to elicit a response or you have not played through the missions currently on Tribble. Nobody expects the missions to be dropped onto Holodeck as is. However, it is unlikely that the story structure is going to change significantly between now and release. So, the concerns here are valid. Again, nobody is stating that this is the release build. I am willing to bet that most that have tested have been involved in a Beta or two.

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