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dawnspooner
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been playing Agents of Yesterday on Tribble and the Caitian race is missing, I know for a fact that Caitians officers where in starfleet at this time, I can understand if the devs just haven't added them yet as its a race you buy on the Zen Store and the fact this has just become playable on tribble, but there being no sigh of them at all worries me, Not Adding the Caitians will be a very major issue for me, all my characters are Caitian or Ferasan, and I doute I will enjoy agents of yesterday without them
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Lieutenant M'ress, give caitians a mane and/or digitigrade legs, TOS Caitian.
While debatable if it's considered canon, a TOS Caitian can probably be extrapolated from episodes of The Animated Series. There are also Caitians in the background of some of the movies (one is commanding the station that loses power in The Voyage Home, another is in the gallery during the court martial)
then the Devs are brakeing there own word, IF they are copying the TOS show, then there should be NO Female captains, as they where never seen on screen, they where in the Animated show, but not the original, so you shouldent be able to make a female character in agnets of yestorday,
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You could argue that the precedent was set with "The Cage". While none were seen to be in command of starships, the fact that you had a female executive officer meant that there were women with command functions in TOS. It would be a wasted effort on the part of Starfleet to have someone in the XO position and not use that practical experience for starship command.
Besides, you'll need to give some leeway for things that were written out due to backward thinking TV executives from the 1960s.
For all intents and purposes, due to the debatable nature of TAS being considered canon, the Caitians were not seen as a species in the TOS universe until the 2280s (Maybe Star Trek III, definitely Start Trek IV)
It's not debatable at all. TAS is canon, 'reconciled' if you will by the person in charge of CBS licensing in 2007. The only reason people somehow still think it's debatable is that Roddenberry didn't like it, but no Roddenberry is calling the shots for a long time now. TAS is essentially season 4 of TOS.
The excuse to find a fitting look is stupid for a number of reasons. Caitians in the game are already very close, just give them hairstyles to choose from and you're done (digitigrade legs are out of question as they would require a completely new model and animation rigging). But it seems they want to imitate the cheap costume look of the 60s rather than emulate the time period, so you play a TV show (even with film grain) and not the "real" 23rd century Star Trek. A questionable decision, but it's Cryptic's.
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I disagree vehemently, but whatcha gonna do...
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pls remember that most decsions to do with the game it needs to be run by CBS before cryptic can put it into the game
I don't think this has anything to do with it in this case. Zero and Geko already stated that it was discussed among the devs and the majority just voted to not include TAS content in the expansion, CBS had nothing to do with it.
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Obviously there's a demand for this, since so many people have asked for it. I mean, what is this, the 5th or 6th thread on the matter. I don't think anyone is expecting the true TAS Caitians.
But I get the reasons, disappointing as they are.
Cathar, and they looked even less cat-like in KotOR (I had no idea Juhani was supposed to be a cat until I started following the development of SWTOR, lol)
As @thebanjo said, why do they have to make them look like the cartoon? Are we supposed to play in the fictional Star Trek universe or are we supposed to play a TV show? The current caitians are fine, just unlock them. Maybe add hairstyles but even if not, they are already there. Why do they think they have to add technicolor 2D cats to make it "authentic"? That reasoning is just bananas.
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The answer is simple: because people would complain that they don't look like the TAS caitians. As with all things, it's better to not do something and have people who wanted it wish it was there than to do something wrong, and have everyone who wanted it AND everyone who didn't know about it complain. Don't do something, and people will just keep thinking that it might happen later, do something wrong and you get bad rep for it forever.
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Cathar. Although playable in SWTOR were added after STO's Caitans.
That was my suggestion but devs have pretty much nixed Caitians in any shape, form, or fashion.
If they don't do it right, then they shouldn't do it at all to avoid bad word of mouth.
But they are already there. People noticed the lack of hair and wrong kind of legs already, but we have them to the degree Cryptic is able and willing to implement them. It's the same species. This reasoning still makes no sense.
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Didn't know that, still like people keep saying they could still have them in. The problem is that they hardly ever mentioned other species as fed members in TOS, but you have to imagine after about a century between the founding of the Federation and TOS there would be a few more species as members. Plus the fact they kept banging on about Rigel IV and Saurian Brandy, ofc they might not have been members then.
Great, but Andorians, Humans, and Vulcans have barely changed since the TOS era.
So whats the problem with Caitians?
The current Caitian model look almost exactly like the TWOK/TOS movies era actors, and even the animated series Caitians (minus the legs and diffrent hair style).
Also those two admiral caitians seen would have been captains or something the TOS series era.
Caitians are canon, and storywise they were served Starfleet in the TOS era. This game is based on the expanded universe, not just the shows alone.
We can also turn this around and look at how many Andorians or Tellerites did we see in Starfleet uniform in the TOS series? How many Vulcans beside Spock? (Not asking if they were part of the federation, we know they are, asking if they wore a starfleet uniform)
Cause right now, I don't remember any, they always wore thier own uniforms.
So again, why aren't Caitians available? (and other TOS era federation members for that matter)
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