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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    I'm feelin' particularly melodic this evening.

    So here's a bit of Thread-Themed-Music for your listening pleasure...

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  • crm14916crm14916 Member Posts: 1,536 Arc User
    edited April 2016
    [Rant]
    They give away federation T1 and T2 ships and everyone complains... They give away cross-faction skill points and everyone complains... They decide to give TWO DAYS to collect each free item and everyone complains...

    I know I'm not the only one who is sick of the complaining, but holy shift! People, just shut up! No one but you cares that you missed the first few give aways... If you don't stay close enough to the game to get the annual giveaway, then you're not close enough to the game enough to use it...

    Please understand that you will never be happy, and that Cryptic cannot and will not please everyone! Get over yourselves!
    [/Rant]

    Sorry for that...
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  • rllaillieurllaillieu Member Posts: 351 Arc User
    crm14916 wrote: »
    [Rant]
    They give away federation T1 and T2 ships and everyone complains... They give away cross-faction skill points and everyone complains... They decide to give TWO DAYS to collect each free item and everyone complains...

    I know I'm not the only one who is sick of the complaining, but holy shift! People, just shut up! No one but you cares that you missed the first few give aways... If you don't stay close enough to the game to get the annual giveaway, then you're not addressing the game enough to use it...
    [/Rant]

    Sorry for that...
    CM

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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    I think the OP may be referring to it not being added to this news section until late in the giveaway: http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/index
    Currently it's showing only the third day giveaway and none of the previous items. But, as others pointed out, they just updated and reposted the same blog.

    It had been announced from day 1 on the forums in the news section here though.

    What they could have done was keep the previous items listed in the blog but have red text that says [Ended]. This way people could see what they missed without having to ask around, or look through comments in the official forum thread for the giveaway.

    The Arc news section is a bit neglected. http://www.arcgames.com/en/arc-news/tag/arc-patch-notes They hardly ever post any patch notes for the Arc client. Latest notes at this time was posted Nov. 23, 2015, but there have been several updates to the client since then.

    The Arc STO news page had giveaway 1 posted there on Thursday morning. Then they replaced it with giveaway 2 on Saturday morning. Then they replaced it with giveaway 3 today.

    Basically, OP had to ignore the Arc main site and forums and facebook and twitter (and ArsTechnica STO thread and probably reddit and some other MMO news sites) for the last 4 days to only hear about it today.

    I suppose it's a sort of semi-legitimate complaint that there is no "mystery giveaways coming soon!" pre-announcement weeks in advance for those that only show up once every few weeks.

    OK. I don't know what the OP is talking about then as to which news site didn't have the info on day 1. I admit I almost never go to the Arc news site for STO and get all my news on the official forums here because Trendy is pretty good at keeping us informed about stuff.

    Maybe it would help if the OP could be more specific as to which news site it was and post a link. All sources seem to point out that it had been posted since day 1 on the proper news sections. Perhaps the OP means he didn't get the email notification on day 1? I think I got it on day 1 but deleted it since I don't bother reading emails on STO and, as I said, get my news on the forums (checking here on a daily basis).

    Edit: I bet that's what it was. Getting emails notifying us of special events and sales sometimes don't get to me until after it had already started. I can't remember exactly, but I think I got an email saying the anniversary event was here about a day or 2 after the event was already going.

    This has been an issue for a really long time. I wish they would improve things for people who prefer the emails to get their STO news.
    What emails? I only get news from the message board and launcher. :p
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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    Perhaps this bit of fun is more apropos...

    https://youtu.be/TRTkCHE1sS4

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  • primar13primar13 Member Posts: 1,896 Bug Hunter
    I think the OP may be referring to it not being added to this news section until late in the giveaway: http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/index
    Currently it's showing only the third day giveaway and none of the previous items. But, as others pointed out, they just updated and reposted the same blog.

    It had been announced from day 1 on the forums in the news section here though.

    What they could have done was keep the previous items listed in the blog but have red text that says [Ended]. This way people could see what they missed without having to ask around, or look through comments in the official forum thread for the giveaway.

    The Arc news section is a bit neglected. http://www.arcgames.com/en/arc-news/tag/arc-patch-notes They hardly ever post any patch notes for the Arc client. Latest notes at this time was posted Nov. 23, 2015, but there have been several updates to the client since then.

    The Arc STO news page had giveaway 1 posted there on Thursday morning. Then they replaced it with giveaway 2 on Saturday morning. Then they replaced it with giveaway 3 today.

    Basically, OP had to ignore the Arc main site and forums and facebook and twitter (and ArsTechnica STO thread and probably reddit and some other MMO news sites) for the last 4 days to only hear about it today.

    I suppose it's a sort of semi-legitimate complaint that there is no "mystery giveaways coming soon!" pre-announcement weeks in advance for those that only show up once every few weeks.

    OK. I don't know what the OP is talking about then as to which news site didn't have the info on day 1. I admit I almost never go to the Arc news site for STO and get all my news on the official forums here because Trendy is pretty good at keeping us informed about stuff.

    Maybe it would help if the OP could be more specific as to which news site it was and post a link. All sources seem to point out that it had been posted since day 1 on the proper news sections. Perhaps the OP means he didn't get the email notification on day 1? I think I got it on day 1 but deleted it since I don't bother reading emails on STO and, as I said, get my news on the forums (checking here on a daily basis).

    Edit: I bet that's what it was. Getting emails notifying us of special events and sales sometimes don't get to me until after it had already started. I can't remember exactly, but I think I got an email saying the anniversary event was here about a day or 2 after the event was already going.

    This has been an issue for a really long time. I wish they would improve things for people who prefer the emails to get their STO news.
    What emails? I only get news from the message board and launcher. :p

    I don't even get those. lol

    I think I somehow unsubscribed back in the day... I want back on the lists. lol

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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    I got all three so no issue there. I get the reminders from their Twitter feed, but I will tell you that the different tweets each day stated that the new award was available but it ALWAYS linked back to the original Neil Falconer giveaway.

    While not in this case per se, there have been inaccuracies and ambiguities in a number of News Blogs posted on the Arc website over the last year.

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  • reiklingraiderreiklingraider Member Posts: 209 Arc User
    How hard is it to check the Galactic News Network section of the forums once a week say like on Thursdays after server maintenance?
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    The link in the GNN News Announcement Thread does point you to the correct giveaway News Blog as it changed, unlike the link in the Twitter tweet. A couple of times there was a disconnect between the Arc Website Announcement News Blog and the GNN Announcements. Some things in Arc didn't have a corresponding GNN thread.
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    Judge Dan Haywood
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    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
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  • chiyoumikuchiyoumiku Member Posts: 1,028 Arc User
    crm14916 wrote: »
    [Rant]
    They give away federation T1 and T2 ships and everyone complains... They give away cross-faction skill points and everyone complains... They decide to give TWO DAYS to collect each free item and everyone complains...

    I know I'm not the only one who is sick of the complaining, but holy shift! People, just shut up! No one but you cares that you missed the first few give aways... If you don't stay close enough to the game to get the annual giveaway, then you're not close enough to the game enough to use it...

    Please understand that you will never be happy, and that Cryptic cannot and will not please everyone! Get over yourselves!
    [/Rant]

    Sorry for that...
    CM

    Beat me to it, so here let me send you a fruit basket and a tin of mini muffins. Because I 100 Percent agree. And anyone that tries to come up with an excuse to what he just said in the quoted post clearly is trying to come up with a reason for why their complaining is justified when in reality it is not.

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  • comrademococomrademoco Member Posts: 1,694 Bug Hunter
    Same here @azrael605
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  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,225 Arc User
    crm14916 wrote: »
    [Rant]
    They give away federation T1 and T2 ships and everyone complains... They give away cross-faction skill points and everyone complains... They decide to give TWO DAYS to collect each free item and everyone complains...

    I know I'm not the only one who is sick of the complaining, but holy shift! People, just shut up! No one but you cares that you missed the first few give aways... If you don't stay close enough to the game to get the annual giveaway, then you're not close enough to the game enough to use it...

    Please understand that you will never be happy, and that Cryptic cannot and will not please everyone! Get over yourselves!
    [/Rant]

    Sorry for that...
    CM

    Agreed.
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  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    Perhaps rather than editing the first blog in an event like this one, they need to post a new blog for each level.

    First, this will avoid misconceptions like those that spawned this thread. Rather than look at the news page and seeing nothing but the latest day's offerings, they'd see the past posts as well.

    Secondly, it would be a good reference to those who knew there was a giveaway, but missed a day and wanted to look at what they missed. I know we can look in the GNN section at the official thread, but like the blog, they recycle it and you have to wade through pages and pages of whining, thank yous and speculation about the next day's giveaway.
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  • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    edited April 2016
    bergins wrote: »
    Perhaps rather than editing the first blog in an event like this one, they need to post a new blog for each level.

    First, this will avoid misconceptions like those that spawned this thread. Rather than look at the news page and seeing nothing but the latest day's offerings, they'd see the past posts as well.

    Secondly, it would be a good reference to those who knew there was a giveaway, but missed a day and wanted to look at what they missed. I know we can look in the GNN section at the official thread, but like the blog, they recycle it and you have to wade through pages and pages of whining, thank yous and speculation about the next day's giveaway.

    what is the point of seeing what was offered that you have missed, this would be quite cruel in actual fact like rubbing salt in a wound.
    if players have missed a giveaway then I see nothing to be gained from saying this is what you could have got if you had been paying attention, its enough to know that they have missed items and this is plainly evident by the title of the latest post I.E. "First Contact Giveaway Day 3".

    I really cant see how anyone can have misconceptions over this in the first place, I think its pretty self explanatory to anyone who actually reads what they are looking at instead of just giving the post a cursory look and filling in the blanks with their own imaginings.

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  • edrogenedrogen Member Posts: 202 Arc User
    Thank you everyone for one of the most entertaining threads I've read in a while.
    Still can't tell if the OP is trolling or not and that adds to the entertainment value, well done.

    This can't be a serious thread.
  • rllaillieurllaillieu Member Posts: 351 Arc User
    Some part of me feels as if we're only a few snarky posts away from a lock, but another part of me wants to get out the popcorn, kick back, and watch the show. Actually, those parts are the same.

    Who wants popcorn?
  • dalolorndalolorn Member Posts: 3,655 Arc User
    rllaillieu wrote: »
    Some part of me feels as if we're only a few snarky posts away from a lock, but another part of me wants to get out the popcorn, kick back, and watch the show. Actually, those parts are the same.

    Who wants popcorn?

    Doooo you have salt?

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  • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    its easy to miss an event if you don't check the news page daily, I nearly missed the last mirror event for that very reason due to my own complacency, luckily I only missed the first 2 days but it could have been a lot worse so I sure learned my lesson that day and make a point of checking the news every day now.

    you cant blame cryptic for that though, its up to you to keep up with events by checking to see if anything is going on, if you miss out you only have yourself to blame.

    When I think about everything we've been through together,

    maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,

     and if that journey takes a little longer,

    so we can do something we all believe in,

     I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.

  • thibashthibash Member Posts: 506 Arc User
    The news is summarized in the STO launcher. The giveaway was listed there after 2 days. I'd say that's a legitimate complaint.
  • dalolorndalolorn Member Posts: 3,655 Arc User
    It's been up in the launcher since they gave away Falconer, they've just recycled it (as noted by previous posters).

    Besides, even if it weren't, how hard can it be to check the GNN subforum at least once a day to keep up with current events?

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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited April 2016
    I'll just leave this here...

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  • rllaillieurllaillieu Member Posts: 351 Arc User
    @dalolorn Of course I have salt. I've also got the requisite butter, cheese for the brave, and yeah. Popcorn for everyone!
  • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    dalolorn wrote: »
    It's been up in the launcher since they gave away Falconer, they've just recycled it (as noted by previous posters).

    Besides, even if it weren't, how hard can it be to check the GNN subforum at least once a day to keep up with current events?


    quite true, I see it there myself.
    I don't rely on the chance of seeing whats on the launcher though its so easy to miss if you are not paying attention.
    your better off having a quick peek at the news page before you launch sto, you are less likely to miss an important announcement if you check there first.

    When I think about everything we've been through together,

    maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,

     and if that journey takes a little longer,

    so we can do something we all believe in,

     I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.

  • jaturnleyjaturnley Member Posts: 1,218 Arc User
    edited April 2016
    FYI, the main news feed still works in RSS - you can use that to get notified right away of any updates if coming to the website daily is too much for you to remember or you are too busy.

    http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/rss

    If you have a smartphone, just grab whatever you want to read RSS, and add it in - bingo.
  • cyheuraethcyheuraeth Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    And just because I can, here is the webarchive copy of the newspage showing the first post of the event being on Mar 31st.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20160331233309/http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news
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  • equinox976equinox976 Member Posts: 2,305 Arc User
    edited April 2016
    deokkent wrote: »
    cyheuraeth wrote: »
    And just because I can, here is the webarchive copy of the newspage showing the first post of the event being on Mar 31st.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20160331233309/http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news

    That's not right. OP requested someone specifically and personally reach out to him/her in order to advise him/her of the changes in STO.

    Well that's not an unreasonable request. Most of the devs probably have time on the weekend to send them a bespoke update of game events :)

    (Yes this is a 'pile on', but it's funny :D)

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  • bloodyrizbloodyriz Member Posts: 1,756 Arc User
    deokkent wrote: »
    cyheuraeth wrote: »
    And just because I can, here is the webarchive copy of the newspage showing the first post of the event being on Mar 31st.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20160331233309/http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news

    That's not right. OP requested someone specifically and personally reach out to him/her in order to advise him/her of the changes in STO.

    Actually, they did not request this is any of their posts. They did say some things which would be better not to have said, but they never asked for someone to personally inform them.​​
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