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kosh70
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Playing a Romulan is interesting in that they must choose a side. To that end I think its perfectly reasonable that these characters who are making such an alignment would at some point be able to command a ship of the faction they chose to defend. In the spirit of that reality, I think its time that Rom characters should be able to also play the ships of the side they decided to align with.
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Support 90 degree arc limitation on BFaW! Save our ships from looking like flying disco balls of dumb!
That would also mean that KDF and Fed would have to have access to Romulan ships.
Seeing how there are so many Feddies out there, how would you feel if they had access to Battle Cloaks, or Enhanced Battle Cloaks built into the ship, rather than sacrificing console slots for it?
If it's power management on the Rommie side you're talking about (warp core vs its redheaded stepchild singularity core), then just use an anniversary ship or possibly invest in a lockbox ship. If it isn't about power management, then I really don't understand why a Rommie would be in a nonRommie ship.
Maybe elaborate why you want this?
If you wanted to play KDF ships, play KDF.
If you wanted Warbirds, play Rom Republic.
Problem solved.
Yep, having each faction have unique ships helps to add variety to the game and encourage players to create new characters in the other factions. If Feds and KDF could fly warbirds we'd have even fewer Romulan alts and even less support for the sub-faction from Cryptic.
That's EXACTLY what I'd be worried about.
I completely understand where you're coming from story-wise. It makes sense. However, the business revolves around the player base. As was stated before, if Rommies had access to Fed/KDF ships, then Fed/KDF would also need access to Rommie ships. It would shift the factions even more than they are now, from a gaming standpoint.
I understand what/why you want it, but it simply wouldn't work, due to this being a business. The shift would actually make players leave, which doesn't help anybody. I would LOVE to have access to Fed/KDF at level 60, but it wouldn't be fair to Fed/KDF if they don't have access to Rommie ships, which brings the argument back to square one.
no... hell no.... massive TRIBBLE no... you get t1-4 already. Want something beyond that Roll a KDF/Fed. We dont need something that FURTHER reduces what little uniqueness the Rom fraction has.
Sure, and you raise a good point. It might make sense from a story perspective, though in story terms I can see reasons why both the Feds and KDF would only be willing to sell, lend or give their older ships to the Romulans not their most advanced.
Naysayers like me are just pointing out the real-world negative consequences outside of the story
Because all of us Romulans are cookie-cutter tacbabies that live and die by our DPS meters. My Romulan is a Science Officer, and I roleplay a ton, so she sticks to her T4 Ambassador as a matter of story and character. I'd love to get the fleet version for her, so she can be of use in STF's, but nope.
-Dedication plaque of the Federation Starship U.S.S. Merkava
And I doubt Starfleet would be willing to give their best/advanced starship to the "enemy" they'd been fighting for the last 300 years either.
Nah, let each faction keep their unique ships with their unique styles. If you want to try different ships, as others have said there are anniversay ships, giveaway ships, lockbox ships, Lobi ships.
You should be ashamed you're using an Ambassador not a Warbird :P
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It actually makes sense in the storylines my fleet runs. Kept short, the Republic didn't (still doesn't) have much of a Navy. So when they stumble across a derelict Ambassador class drifting in the Azure nebula, why not as the Feds for salvage rights? It's not like a century-old design will have anything in the way of technological secrets, and the Republic needs hulls. Since its in no way a ship of the line anymore, it can be commanded by one of the more eccrentirc and less combative officers in the fleet and used in rear-echelon support to free up a more advanced vessel.
One round of refurbishing and basic upgrades later, it's being handed over to a Science Officer that's barely military at all outside of learning how to use a pistol, crewed by well-meaning misfits, and used for a mobile hospital/repair vessel/fleet transport in a support role. The feddies agree, so long as it kept the name it was christened with (it being bad luck to rename a ship after it's maiden voyage.) So the Romulan Republic Navy is now the proud owner and operator of the R.R.W. Mary Seacole with the ship captained by a young woman that has more in common with Belldandy than anyone even remotely military. Up to and including greeting people with hot tea and hugs.
-Dedication plaque of the Federation Starship U.S.S. Merkava
From a RP perspective like that, my Romulans would still sooner fly a Dhelan or T'liss. Sure salvage the Ambassador hull and use it to build a nice warbird. Let us not forget, the IN GAME plot has the True Way producing ships with a few mines, industrial replicators, and no actual fleet facilities. If the friggin spoonhead equivalent of the Taliban can do that, I am pretty sure the Republic can as well. :P
That said its good RP but I can't see many Romulans in universe accepting a Federation derelict over even an antique romulan design. Their pride is all many have left, and IMO, they would fly Romulan designs. Sure your character could be the 'odd one' that's what being the PC is all about, but I refer to the people salvaging that hull and deciding what to do with it.
The romulns have that ship for 50 years already. It's as much part of their arsenal as any warbird.
The root of the problem is that instead of making Romulans available as a playable race under the Fed/KDF factions, they instead branched out into a separate faction which opened a new can of worms- if they had made the aligned faction ships playable then Fed/KDF would be whining about not being able to pilot Romulan Warbirds as well.
So now, we have a fractured faction system and the only two options for PWE/Cryptic at this point are to either tuck the Romulans under the two primary factions (Fed/KDF) or to continue to expand the "secondary" faction system (which seems more likely at this point) and possibly rethink the whole ship allowance angle.
Not too sure how they would accomplish this, as the current system is a big mess and sooner or later they're going to have to address it, but for now (in PWE/Cryptic's opinion) all you need to do is pull out your wallet and spend, spend, spend. "It doesn't have to make sense, just buy our damn ships!"
Being critical doesn't take skill. Being constructively critical- which is providing alternative solutions or suggestions to a demonstrated problem, however, does.
cold hard truth right there
I'll dare say it is also a cheap shot at 'give it to me free' type entitlement claim without any regard to the consequences or to those who have already built up many alts and mains across the three factions - myself included.
There's a reason why people play different factions - for a different experience, not more of the same, and certainly not to water down what little is left of existing diversity.
You mean the fact that Cryptic's running a business not a charity?
Also remember this, back when Romulans were first announced the restriction of other factions T5 ships didn't exist, Cryptic originally planned to let Romulans use any ship from their chosen ally. The T5 restriction was added due to player backlash about how no one would make a Fed or KDF character if making a Romulan effectively doubled your ship options at max level.