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Best Ideas I've heard for a new T6 Cross-Faction bundle.
drakomagi
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This is the best idea I've heard for a new T6 cross-faction bundle that a bunch of players would enjoy.
First off, 9 ships, three per faction. (Yeah, I know it means digging deep guys.)
All ships would have Intel or a new specialization (in season 11.5, perhaps?) cross-seating.
Federation Starfleet: 3 Vesta-class variants or 3 Luna-class variants (gotta show some love for Riker's ship, the USS Titan,
.)
Klingon Defense Forces: 3 Gorn or Ferasan science vessels
Romulan Republic Militia: 3 science vessels based off the Ha'Nom or an entirely new warbird design.
Main reasons for backing this:
Federation players have been clamoring for a T6 Vesta. The T5's were very popular when they came out. And given what I've seen with the T6 flagships, it would be a good idea to advance them.
Klingon and Romulan players have NO T6 Support Vessels/Science Warbirds. The closest thing they have would be the Breen carrier or the two Krenim Science Vessels (anniversary ship and the dreadnought).
Cryptic's main reason for reading and doing this: $$$.
Your thoughts?
First off, 9 ships, three per faction. (Yeah, I know it means digging deep guys.)
All ships would have Intel or a new specialization (in season 11.5, perhaps?) cross-seating.
Federation Starfleet: 3 Vesta-class variants or 3 Luna-class variants (gotta show some love for Riker's ship, the USS Titan,
.)Klingon Defense Forces: 3 Gorn or Ferasan science vessels
Romulan Republic Militia: 3 science vessels based off the Ha'Nom or an entirely new warbird design.
Main reasons for backing this:
Federation players have been clamoring for a T6 Vesta. The T5's were very popular when they came out. And given what I've seen with the T6 flagships, it would be a good idea to advance them.
Klingon and Romulan players have NO T6 Support Vessels/Science Warbirds. The closest thing they have would be the Breen carrier or the two Krenim Science Vessels (anniversary ship and the dreadnought).
Cryptic's main reason for reading and doing this: $$$.
Your thoughts?
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That being said, in addition to Klingons science ships, Gorn and Ferasan scis somewhere down the line would not themselves be objectionable.
A warbird with a new design would certainly be considered. A T6 Ha'nom would not.
Klingon Science vessel that looks nothing like a Klingon Ship? No thanks.
Fed? Who cares. They already own Science now a days.
how about a middle gound with a klingon ship with gorn and ferasan variates. like the vo'quv.
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This is the problem, according to Cryptic, Science Vessels don't sell.
I'm not saying there is no demand for it, because there is, it's just not a demand that Cryptic has deemed large enough to consider putting resources toward developing. They're only going to make what they think they can generate revenue, it's just how it works.
Now, that might change in the future because they have finally put some effort into the Science Class and we're seeing more and more Science Builds out there now. Personally, I like the idea, with the exception of the KDF section (they should be Klingon Ships IMO) and I'm all for it, I just don't think they will do it unless they see a real profit potential that doesn't currently exist.
And Gorns kicking it up a notch to deliver a T6 science vessel so their Klingon masters don't have to sully their warrior spirits with mere thinking and experimenting and observing makes perfect sense.
Roms need a true SciShip too. I have no trouble thinking the Roms would make one. I always thought of them as a Sci heavy faction. They did make the cloak afterall. And Sci is our CC/sneaky power set.
There have been a few new traits introduced lately that particularly target science ability use, which should make Science Vessels more intersting to people. Maybe this could suffice to raise interest in Science Vessels.
But there have been a few Science Vessels lately via the Annorax Promo, the Paradox Lobi ship and the Anniversary Event. It could be that serves to generate interest in Science Vessels, but it could also just have saturated the market again.
I am not sure that new Gorn Science vessels is a good idea. I always hear people saying that this wouldn't suffice for them, the want "actual" Klingon ships. If Cryptic wants to go "cheap", they could take the 3existing Gorn Science Vessels, make a new Gorn Tier 6 material, and sell them as part of a science vessel 9-pack. The only customziation option then would be materials, patterns, and the choice of the specific Gorn. (No interchangable components.)
None of this is a guarantee of anything, to be sure. It just seems to me that too many stars are aligning for this not to happen by year's end. Even if it's not a Vesta pack proper, it'll almost certainly be styled after the Vesta in the same way the Pilot escorts are pretty clearly Defiant-flavored.
If I were a recklessly bold betting man, I'd go as far as to say we'll see a new Luna for the Feds also packing that new spec sometime after the pack's release, though possibly not this year depending on when the pack drops.
I sincerely doubt we'll ever see new KDF-allied alien ships. Which is a depressing thing for me to say, since it's basically admitting that until it's rendered wholly obsolete or the game shuts down, my Orion main will be commanding her Corsair. She'll never know the joy a new ship, only the occasional thrill of grinding a trait...
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If it needs to be explained, then create an un-named adversary that blew the KDF out of the stars: until the KDF adapted and used their brains as well as their hearts in battle. "Let me tell you of a glorious victory remembered throughout history, or rather, your future..."
Don't know how many times I've opened the store during the last sales and looked at the bundles only to close the window again.
I didn't like the vesta much.....
I think it's high time we saw some alternatives in the c-store to open people's minds to different builds and styles.
As for science not selling, well that Annorax and Paradox fairly fly off the shelves. And the anni ship (which makes them zero money) was science too, so they out resources into that for zero return. Money isn't an issue I feel, they could release anything if they wished. They would rather currently go with safe bets though.
Klingon designed science ships would be more preferred.
The Romulans need a science ship of their own that can actually turn worth a flip. My Romulan science toon is still using the Dyson science ship. It is not bad but, I want better.
Of course, some also don't like how it looks, but that's very subjective anyway, and a new skin could introduce options that work better for people. (That said,the Ha'nom is a bit complicated, since it also has to be compatible with the Ha'apax / Ha'feh parts. Though... The Pathfinder actually is not all that compatible with other Intrepid parts, using the Saucer or the Hull without the other parts looks odd, so there is precedent for making parts less compatible than might be desired.)
pffftt.. i'll develop them for free. tell me what format you want the model files in. I'm sure the community would chip in with specs for them as well (for free). Everything else is pure profit.
Here's what I'd pay $120 for, in a far more alt-friendly and valuable form:
Common theme across all ships in the bundle
Bonus points if each ship in the faction can share some parts with the other ones. Don't tell me they can't, because they already proved they can with the Intel ships. Large size differences should be the only limiting factor here.
Fed Light Cruiser or Battlecruiser
Fed Escort
Fed Science vessel
KDF Light Cruiser or Battlecruiser
KDF Escort or Raider
KDF Science vessel
Rom Engineering Warbird
Rom Tactical Warbird
Rom Science Warbird
The cruiser types get one common Mastery Trait and one common console (or other) across factions.
The tactical types get one common Mastery Trait and one common console (or other) across factions.
The science types get one common Mastery Trait and one common console (or other) across factions.
The special equipment can be slotted on any of the other ships, allowing you to build a cross-class set.
Admiralty cards would yield a far better value than the eng/tac/sci variants do, since each ship class would be represented. We have enough of the "+something when alone" cards that are hardly usable as it is... Any assignment worth doing usually has an event that blows the stats out of the water for a solo vessel.
It just requires more thinking outside the box, which the player base would love to help out with by offering suggestions. There would be extra work for the ship artists, but they're already touching 9 ships trying to make them distinct and planning for the reuse of parts could rein that in. There would certainly be more work for the design team since they can't copy-paste-tweak as much, but frankly we deserve more effort in that area for what we're expected to pay and they tend to stick to a general template for each class anyway.
I'm on board with that, too.
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