Paper hulls

breetime13 · January 2016

I've been wondering. All missions up until recently have been alright, but as soon as my Romulan made sub admiral, I can't complete a single one. I go from full shields and health, to dead almost instantly. That's with using engineering team, AND structural integrity. Most times I get blown up with full shields, and it only takes about 10 seconds to get totally destroyed. I've tried swapping ships, swapping engineering skills, yet nothing seems to work. Is this normal?

markhawkman · January 2016

Umm... who/what is blowing you up?

snowwolf · January 2016

It sounds like something is hitting you with a critical hit over and over again. But to be honest I also found it hard as f*** to play as a Romulan even at max level. Then again I don't know anything about Romulan stuff. But my Federation ship is a tank and can't be blown up.. Tried to recreate it on my Romulan.. 1 shot, shields vanish, second shot.. KABLAMO! DEFEATED! lol

markhawkman · January 2016

One thing to remember about flying warbirds is that your power levels are dependent on singularity charge. If you leave it fully charged all the time your power levels are higher.

snowwolf · January 2016

I guess maybe he needs some more bridge officer or stuff? I see people on Romulan ships that spew out a lot of BOFF powers then approach a Tactical Cube and blow it up themselves in a second xD

Romulan builds does not seem to have anything in between.

Either you are super powerful and you can one-shot Borg Cube's..
Or you are made of paper and instantly blow up. lol.

dracounguis · January 2016

markhawkman wrote: »

Umm... who/what is blowing you up?

I'd guess 'bad guys'

sennahcherib · January 2016

Either you are super powerful and you can one-shot Borg Cube's..
Or you are made of paper and instantly blow up. lol.

not true, if your goal is to be a dps monster. my main rom can do 30k dps, and she can tank everything even in a warbird like the faeht or the pilot sci ships.

yes, rom builds are a little bit different and need more work, but a rom ship can tank everything, if you use eng consoles (fleet neutronium), + the good traits.

breetime13 · January 2016

This is what's been blowing up my ship(s) repeatedly: The Mogai Heavy Warbird in the mission Patrol the Hfihar System, and the battle cruiser in the mission Frozen - The Chase. Ironic, I know...they are both Rom ships! Maybe they're the ones that kate370 is talking about?

Anyway, all of my traits are good in hull repair, my bridge officers have engineering team and aux power to structural integrity. I've used all the buffs at my ship's disposal. Nothing seems to even matter

twg042370 · January 2016

Not knowing who is killing you;

Borg Invisible Torpedoes(tm), maybe? They game *always* refuses to show me them when they get fired off so I'm never able to try and do anything about them and their obnoxious one-shot kill nature until I'm dead and wondering what the hell happened. I also find Vaadwar tend to get a shocking number of crits. Toggle the damage thing on when you die and see what took you out. You might be able slot a power that will help you against it.

Sub Admiral I or Sub Admiral II? MK XI/ XII Purple and blue gear and boffs are relatively cheap on the exchange if you've been saving your pennies up. Moar Gear! isn't the solution to all of the games woes (unless you go all Minmax P2W Console Gold God) but that half second higher level gear can give you might be the half second you need to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat... from one-shotting torpedoes you can't see.

twg042370 · January 2016

breetime13 wrote: »

This is what's been blowing up my ship(s) repeatedly: The Mogai Heavy Warbird in the mission Patrol the Hfihar System, and the battle cruiser in the mission Frozen - The Chase.

Oh! Those guys!

They're TRIBBLE. I think they're "special" mobs that are designed to suck up damage. Don't let them get you down.

twg042370 · January 2016

Now, the old D'deridex Defenders... Those were infuriating.

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heavensrun · January 2016

coldnapalm wrote: »

breetime13 wrote: »

This is what's been blowing up my ship(s) repeatedly: The Mogai Heavy Warbird in the mission Patrol the Hfihar System, and the battle cruiser in the mission Frozen - The Chase. Ironic, I know...they are both Rom ships! Maybe they're the ones that kate370 is talking about?

Anyway, all of my traits are good in hull repair, my bridge officers have engineering team and aux power to structural integrity. I've used all the buffs at my ship's disposal. Nothing seems to even matter

I know what your problem is...you are using a T3 ship. Upgrade your ship. If you like the mogai, I recommend getting the mirror one off the exchange...and grabbing the hanom for the admiralty system. Also the mirror mogai is pretty good admiralty card too.

He didn't say he's -in- the Mogai, he said that a Mogai is what's been killing him.

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captainchaos66 · February 2016

I have the same issue on my Romulan toons. I run the Delta Patrols in a Fed of Klingon ship and I do pretty good... have to keep an eye on shields a bit, but that's usually it.. my Romulans on the other hand.. even with lvl 12-13 gear I usually die at LEAST once. I find its mainly due to lack of shields. Even with Shield boosting consoles, and shield and Hull traits,, I STILL cant last in a fight with the Vaadwaur mainly. I've even tried using virtually IDENTICAL Fed setups on my Romulans,, and shields don't last NEARLY as long.
As far as the Instadeath with shields still up... yeah I get that too. Just today,,, while patrolling.. had all 4 shield facings about 80%.. hull about 75% and suddenly I was dead... before I even had a chance to hit engineering team or sci team or Miracle Worker I was dead... I used to get frustrated at this.. now I just hit respawn and start the battle again.. all part of playing Romulan I guess...

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galactickiri · February 2016

Some of the regular line ships you fight in the early faction missions are special somehow, and can pack a wallop with their attacks. When faced with foes like this, I tend to switch fast between two seprate power settings. I have one with high power to weapons, with remaining power on shields and engines to hit hard. I strike and then fade with power prioritized to engines.

I find with some of the particularly nasty 'boss' ships, using a Hit & Fade style and staying at longer range is very useful.
Yes, it can take longer to score a kill, but you minimize yourself as a target to the enemy, and it gives you time to use and cooldown your buffs and repairs.

fovrel · February 2016

Right now the Mogais can hit you pretty hard. I have experienced it in the Carraya patrol. They can strip a shield facing and take 50% to 70% out of your hull. That is on level 60, normal and with a tier VI ship. I can see a level 50 with a not so tanky ship get blown up easily. What it is? I tried to find out with the combatlog, but it did not gave a clue.

I suspect a shield stripping science abillty with an Alpha hy plasma torpedo, although their is no graphical efidence. Do know that to make the game less laggy, some graphical things have been removed.

What helps is to stay out of their front arc and, or stay at a 5 km distance.

theraven2378 · February 2016

The Elachi were also very rough before they got nerfed, seriously the first battle of new romulus was really rough playing as a romulan at lvl 30 upwards

twg042370 · February 2016

theraven2378 wrote: »

The Elachi were also very rough before they got nerfed, seriously the first battle of new romulus was really rough playing as a romulan at lvl 30 upwards

Are those two "Defend the space base/ colony" Elachi missions worth playing now then? I automatically skip them for being both tedious and dropping a damage sponge on me during them.

Getting blown up by a damage sponge is one thing, but the game's addiction to endless waves of enemies is unenjoyable.

markhawkman · February 2016

fovrel wrote: »

Right now the Mogais can hit you pretty hard. I have experienced it in the Carraya patrol. They can strip a shield facing and take 50% to 70% out of your hull. That is on level 60, normal and with a tier VI ship. I can see a level 50 with a not so tanky ship get blown up easily. What it is? I tried to find out with the combatlog, but it did not gave a clue.

I suspect a shield stripping science abillty with an Alpha hy plasma torpedo, although their is no graphical efidence. Do know that to make the game less laggy, some graphical things have been removed.

What helps is to stay out of their front arc and, or stay at a 5 km distance.

Mogai AIs use CSV.... and if they line up an attack run right can do considerable damage with it.

theraven2378 · February 2016

twg042370 wrote: »

theraven2378 wrote: »

The Elachi were also very rough before they got nerfed, seriously the first battle of new romulus was really rough playing as a romulan at lvl 30 upwards

Are those two "Defend the space base/ colony" Elachi missions worth playing now then? I automatically skip them for being both tedious and dropping a damage sponge on me during them.

Getting blown up by a damage sponge is one thing, but the game's addiction to endless waves of enemies is unenjoyable.

I was around at the time of legacy of romulus, the Elachi pre nerf, those 2 missions were down right evil at best, i've not made a another rom since.

Not tried them post nerf elachi

mustrumridcully0 · February 2016

breetime13 wrote: »

I've been wondering. All missions up until recently have been alright, but as soon as my Romulan made sub admiral, I can't complete a single one. I go from full shields and health, to dead almost instantly. That's with using engineering team, AND structural integrity. Most times I get blown up with full shields, and it only takes about 10 seconds to get totally destroyed. I've tried swapping ships, swapping engineering skills, yet nothing seems to work. Is this normal?

If all your shields are still up when you die, you might be dying from bleedthrough and/or plasma fires. If only 3 shield facings are still up, you need to distribute your shields better (Tactical Team can automate it for its duration, too - very highly recommended power, and you never need more than an ensign tac slot for it.)

If all your shields are still up when you die, then the bleedthrough and plasma fires are what is killing you, which suggests that you might have particular low hull.

What difficulty level are you playing at? Make sure you haven't accidentally increased it.
What ship do you fly, what tier is it? Are you flying something appropriate for your level? Romulan ships tend to have lower hull, and if you are flying a lower tier ship, it might be felt extra strong.
Hazard Emitters is better than Engineering Team or Auxilliary to Structural Integrity for dealing with damage over time effects (especially plasma fires, since it dispels them) and bleedthrough.
Other gear might help you, like armour consoles and Resilient Shields (Reislient shields sacrifice a bit of capacity and regeneration rate, but absorb half the bleedthrough damage, meaning you take less hull damage through shields.)
How long does it take you to destroy your enemy? Naturally, the longer the fight goes on, the more damage you take. The first problem can be that you might not run max weapon power. (Did you recently switch ships? A new ship starts with default settings, everything at 50). Of course, then it also depends if you use level appropriate weapons, if they are effectively picked (one damage type, the right firing arcs suited for your ship's maneuverability, the right buffs).
NPC Mogai specifically are "mean" because they also use tactical Team (how unfair of them to use the same tricks as players do!). Don't waste your damage buffs on them while it's Tactical team is running. Wait until it's over and then launch a full alpha strike.

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markhawkman · February 2016

theraven2378 wrote: »

twg042370 wrote: »

theraven2378 wrote: »

The Elachi were also very rough before they got nerfed, seriously the first battle of new romulus was really rough playing as a romulan at lvl 30 upwards

Are those two "Defend the space base/ colony" Elachi missions worth playing now then? I automatically skip them for being both tedious and dropping a damage sponge on me during them.

Getting blown up by a damage sponge is one thing, but the game's addiction to endless waves of enemies is unenjoyable.

I was around at the time of legacy of romulus, the Elachi pre nerf, those 2 missions were down right evil at best, i've not made a another rom since.

Not tried them post nerf elachi

*laughs maniacally* Unless you tried them in the LoR beta, you never faced the HARD version.

noroblad · February 2016

The game spikes in difficulty in a few places. 50 can be rough if all you have are basic items, basic building skills, and a level 45 free ship. 50-60 is very tough if you trucked on thru without stopping to gear up at 50 and are facing delta quad enemy. Rom ships are fine ... with the valdore console you can keep sheilds healed near 100% when it procs once you do high damage. And thats a crutch, I havent used it in a while ... with good gear, you dont need it anymore. My faeht is nearly unkillable against anything soloable, and durable enough for group stuff.

glenn · February 2016

breetime13 wrote: »

I've been wondering. All missions up until recently have been alright, but as soon as my Romulan made sub admiral, I can't complete a single one. I go from full shields and health, to dead almost instantly. That's with using engineering team, AND structural integrity. Most times I get blown up with full shields, and it only takes about 10 seconds to get totally destroyed. I've tried swapping ships, swapping engineering skills, yet nothing seems to work. Is this normal?

I think the important thing here is your promotion. As I understand it, as you level up, so do your NPC opponents. I noticed this when I reached level 60. Even with my bright and shiny new Galaxy X I suddenly found myself being beaten in the Traellus Satellite mission. My solution was to start upgrading hard. As you increase in rank, the standard Mk XII kit won't cut it any more.

breetime13 · February 2016

Thanks for all the comments! I was running those missions on normal, with a T5 ship (not upgraded) as a sub admiral II. I bought as much purple gear for the ship as I could. I tried different ships, different tactics (like trying to stay 5k away/using battle cloak, etc., yet nothing worked.

As a side note, and possibly interesting, is that I ran this mission tonight with my Klingon captain (34), in a standard, free ship from one's promotion, without purple stuff. I didn't expect to survive, but to my complete surprise I did. Not only did I survive, but the mission wasn't even difficult at all. I'm sure someone out there has the answer to this very disproportionate outcome!

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