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Kemocite Stealth Nerf or Simply Bugged?
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Same character, same build, same instance, discuss.
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Also, instances differ so one parse doesn't say much.
And while fluctuations clearly can happen it wont happen to this degree, even less so considering both runs were made in controlled DPS Channel Runs.
If i remember correctly then the Kemocite Fix was about the Unintentional Multi-Proc Behaviour with multiple Copys of KLW.
However i dont remember a fix where KLW does not Crit, Proc less (with 1 copy) and does not benefit from Flanking.
It is strange.
Would never buy them for more then that, then again even if so i wouldnt laugh about anybody even if they did.
Thats besides the point tho, my intention was to inform people and see if we could get some clarification.
Not to start a flame thread.
Or god forbid, offend people cause of an ingame item.
Torp boats have seen this since the changes to TS, Neutronic, and Quantum Phase on the last major patch before/at the Winter Event. Been reported to Bug Bashers, but you know... torps.
FYI, Weapon Systems Synergy still doesn't work for heavy torps.
Fleet Defiant Kinetic Heavy Fire Support | Fleet Manticore Kinetic Strike Ship | Tactical Command Kinetic Siege Refit | Fleet Defiant Quantum Phase Escort | Fleet Valiant Kinetic Heavy Fire Support
Turning the Galaxy-X into a Torpedo Dreadnought & torpedo tutorial, with written torpedo guide.
"A good weapon and a great strategy will win you many battles." - Marshall
I knew using Kinetics would be playing the game on hard mode, but what I didn't realize was how bad the deck is stacked against Kinetics.
The Cycle is indeed pretty much the same, however when i take a look at the Proc-Rate Post Patch i cant say i see the mentioned 10% proc rate at all there.
I might be wrong, afterall im not the total genius in terms of STO maths and gameplay systems, but if my Embassy Console with 2,5% chance procs 40-50 times (pretty consistent number over different runs too) over one run, while KLW barely scratches 90 Hits per run now with a chance of 10%, it doesn´t seem quite correct to me.
(Then again, Embassy is always on, while KLW has a downtime, albeit short, so as i said i might be wrong)
I could complain about torps...but they sorta gave me something what I wanted torp wise recently, really wanted to see a special Chroniton torp, since we're dealing a lot with time and stuff, and the Krenim...and we got one.
The reason why I asked about the timing of your klw and faw cycles being matched up is to get a rough idea of how many attacks are outgoing while klw is active. I just looked at how many attacks you had under faw and the number of procs from klw. This number is very close to 10%. This part is very easy to check, people were getting around 20% proc rate prior to the patch. The hard part is figuring out what is going on with the critical hits as it will take much more testing due to the very low probability. The current thought is the same as feedback pulse, where it doesn't determine whether you have a critical hit after the proc, but before it is even determined if you proc klw. This should lead to a higher variance in klw damage, ie. you will see lesser damage more often, but high spikes on rare occasion.
I actually should have showed the whole screenshot of the damage readout instead of just the bottom table, that was my bad.
Anyways i have now done quite a few runs and parsed them and always get an overall number of attacks that come from KLW that are more close to 4 - 5% instead of 10% proc rate.
Like this for example:
So i might be wrong anyways, like i said before, no genius here, but isnt 141 KLW attacks of 3186 Attacks overall about 4,42%?
Obviously this is just an example parse, any parse i did so far comes out at about 5% though.
https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/9681823-star-trek-online:-release-notes:-december-3rd,-2015
With other words, the changes are intentional.
But we all knew this was coming, KLW has been doing ridiculous things to the DPS possible in the game for some time now. Hopefully this will reign in at least some of the rampant powercreep taking over the game.
That sadly doesnt cover what i said earlier.
Point is:
KLW does not crit anymore.
It also is not affected by flanking anymore.
And the proc chance seems lower then what the tooltip says it should be.
The only thing those patch notes mention is a fix to proc chance.
I agree the proc chance part is up for debate, doesnt rule out the other 2 points tho.
And aslong as there isnt a official post or note that says its intentional, its bugged.
But do all 3186 attacks coincide with a period of kemo or have a chance to apply it? Adding up the number of faw and non-faw beam hits as well as kcb yields more like 6.6%, which is lower than 10 but more likely to be within the variation of rng.
It doesn't mean every 1 in 10 shot will be a guaranteed proc, it's just a chance.
You'd have to do 100's of runs and measure the proc rate in each one with the same conditions before you could be certain there's any sort of bug or change to the mechanics.