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Really nead to address PvE Qs.

I recently rolled a new toon, having just one toon for a few years, and oh my what a grind it has become, but moreover the PvE Qs are vacant.
To a point really that I can't even get reputation marks to put into my dailys.
PvE's need to be addressed, as it's practically impossible to get marks to do dailys, and I can't even imagine how I will earn enough marks to get gear.
I spend more time just sitting, waiting, for 3 PvE qs I'm in to fire up and begin, and most of them have no ETA timer.
I give up after about 15 minutes of waiting.

Possible fixes is have Crystal Entity event always give you choice from any mark pool, and if advanced is done, give the appropriate module along with the reputation mark chosen, because CCE always seems to be going on regardless of time or event.

Another option is to have PvE's fill with AI ships, and for ground, my crew.
However, the CCE suggestion would fix the issue of not getting reputation marks, but would not address other PvEs, where having those fill with my crew or my other ships (AI controlled) would help.

I don't know how other players with so many alts do reputation, as I just have the one and can't get any to Q up.
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    kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    you do know you can get most marks w/o ever seeing a queue right?
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    risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    Most marks can be obtained in battlezones too.

    I know, that's not going to solve the problem with the queues, but it should at least help you to get your daily marks.
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    welcome2earfwelcome2earf Member Posts: 1,746 Arc User
    I'm sure the queues will be fixed - they will just remove the dead ones! Problem fixed!!!!
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    szimszim Member Posts: 2,503 Arc User
    Here are a few suggestions how you can grind for the respective marks without joining a PvE queue:
    - Omega Marks: you won't have any difficulties finding an active queue here. But Borg Red Alerts and Defera are two alternatives.
    - Undine Marks: Dyson Space Battlezone
    - Dyson Marks: Dyson Ground Battlezone
    - Tholian Marks: Tholian Red Alert, Nukara Ground, (Crystalline Catastrophy queue)
    - Romulan Marks: Tholian Red Alert, New Romulus Ground, Tau Dewa Patrols
    - Delta Marks: Kobali Ground
    - Iconian Marks: the two last missions on Kobali
    - Fleet Marks: (Crystalline Catastrophy queue), Red Alerts
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    anodynesanodynes Member Posts: 1,999 Arc User
    Good luck building up 3000 Iconian marks for the space set on Kobali Prime. You'll get 67 marks and 2 datacores for doing those missions once every 20 hours, including the daily marks box, and 6 marks per each time after that. Over 40 days on that one. The rest are all fine, but the non-queue method for Iconian is downright stingy.
    This is an MMO, not a Star Trek episode simulator. That would make for a terrible game.
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    peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,225 Arc User
    edited January 2016
    Sadly the queue situation is still desolate. The big majority of the player base seems to avoid the only halfway demanding contend we have like a plague.

    I helped a friend of mine on the same endeavor with a new toon recently. Here is how we got the marks by picking the “best” supported PvE maps.

    -> Omega: ISA/KASA/CSA
    -> Romulan: DRSE (DRSA rewards much more marks but never pops)
    -> Nukara: CCA & NTTE
    -> Dyson & Undine: BDN
    -> Delta: BHE
    -> Iconian: GGA & BOTSE
    -> Terran: CPA

    Live is of course different when you have a premade of friends and can do all. If not the mentioned PvE are your best options.
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    drkfrontiersdrkfrontiers Member Posts: 2,477 Arc User
    Well lets do a tally.

    PvP queues are dead.
    PvE queues are dead.

    I leave you to draw your own conclusions.
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    scrooge69scrooge69 Member Posts: 1,108 Arc User
    edited January 2016
    reward shoudl be appropriate to effort invested

    some ques take longer than others so the longer ones should reward more eh?

    4 example gateways to grethor where u HAVE to wait till timer is out
    its just not worth it for the few bonus marks u get to free any more ships
    every1 jsut sits where the dread will spawn nad have a chat
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    pulserazorpulserazor Member Posts: 590 Arc User
    There are way too many ques that you could sit in for a whole week and never get a match to launch. The list could be pruned by 2/3rds.

    The empty lists make this single server game look barren.


    also, inb4 PWE claims the ques arent reporting properly.
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    vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,886 Arc User
    you do know you can get most marks w/o ever seeing a queue right?

    you can get every mark without seeing a Queue. defera missions drop both omega and fleet marks
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    vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,886 Arc User
    scrooge69 wrote: »
    reward shoudl be appropriate to effort invested

    some ques take longer than others so the longer ones should reward more eh?

    4 example gateways to grethor where u HAVE to wait till timer is out
    its just not worth it for the few bonus marks u get to free any more ships
    every1 jsut sits where the dread will spawn nad have a chat

    that's like the mirror invasion event. how hard is it to lift the code from the dyson battlezone, when TRIBBLE has been done spawn YYY when threshholds or timers are reached move along to sit and wait is silly. or if you insist on the timer, assuming you don't get an afk timer then your wait time is reduced to 10 m
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    kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    edited January 2016
    you do know you can get most marks w/o ever seeing a queue right?

    you can get every mark without seeing a Queue. defera missions drop both omega and fleet marks

    I rather hate defera so I either didn't know about the fleet marks or had forgotten... thanks for the info either way :)
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    bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    gizmox64 wrote: »
    I recently rolled a new toon, having just one toon for a few years, and oh my what a grind it has become, but moreover the PvE Qs are vacant.
    To a point really that I can't even get reputation marks to put into my dailys.
    PvE's need to be addressed, as it's practically impossible to get marks to do dailys, and I can't even imagine how I will earn enough marks to get gear.
    I spend more time just sitting, waiting, for 3 PvE qs I'm in to fire up and begin, and most of them have no ETA timer.
    I give up after about 15 minutes of waiting.

    Possible fixes is have Crystal Entity event always give you choice from any mark pool, and if advanced is done, give the appropriate module along with the reputation mark chosen, because CCE always seems to be going on regardless of time or event.

    Another option is to have PvE's fill with AI ships, and for ground, my crew.
    However, the CCE suggestion would fix the issue of not getting reputation marks, but would not address other PvEs, where having those fill with my crew or my other ships (AI controlled) would help.

    I don't know how other players with so many alts do reputation, as I just have the one and can't get any to Q up.

    though its true that there is not a lot of activity on pve qs this is not completely due to the missions themselves.
    though the missions would be played more if the rewards were greater much of the lack of participation there is due to players doing other things in game that take their time especially if they have multiple characters in play, these are things like the latest mission, admiralty and so on, admiralty alone can take a player with 6 characters about 1hr to 1.5hrs to get through.

    there are alternatives for filling reputation for example I completed Terran rep on all of my 6 character just from taking part in the mirror event with them.
    there is also raising winter epohh, feathered monkeys and risian birds during the seasonal events that pays choice of marks.

    When I think about everything we've been through together,

    maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,

     and if that journey takes a little longer,

    so we can do something we all believe in,

     I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.

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    x10110100x10110100 Member Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited January 2016
    I really wish they would bring back the hourly bonus and rotate which que's get it. It's not even about giving more rewards it's just giving people direction. It's basically the server saying "ok everyone is going to que for this event now". People need direction and help organizing, that's all I'm saying, it's not a request for more rewards, just more leadership.
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    cidjackcidjack Member Posts: 2,017 Arc User
    With the introduction of the last rep system I up and stopped chasing after marks completely. In fact, even with all my toons I have not been in space or ground combat for 2 months now.

    I do not know what would get me back intp PVEs but I find more fun helping fleets in my armada.
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    squirrleytunicsquirrleytunic Member Posts: 89 Arc User
    I'm sure the queues will be fixed - they will just remove the dead ones! Problem fixed!!!!

    NWS has shown us it isn't just the dead ones that get removed. Popular queues that have became easy because of the amount of power creep we have been sold are also in their cross hairs. Hey at least we got the elite versions of popular queues we were prommised...oh wait.
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    squirrleytunicsquirrleytunic Member Posts: 89 Arc User
    scrooge69 wrote: »
    reward shoudl be appropriate to effort invested

    some ques take longer than others so the longer ones should reward more eh?

    4 example gateways to grethor where u HAVE to wait till timer is out
    its just not worth it for the few bonus marks u get to free any more ships
    every1 jsut sits where the dread will spawn nad have a chat

    that's like the mirror invasion event. how hard is it to lift the code from the dyson battlezone, when TRIBBLE has been done spawn YYY when threshholds or timers are reached move along to sit and wait is silly. or if you insist on the timer, assuming you don't get an afk timer then your wait time is reduced to 10 m

    That isn't what they want. As a way to limit the amount of resources you can get, forced wait timers have been added to most of the new content. Wouldn't want people earning things faster because they have spent money on new gear and time on learning to play the game.

    I guess it doesn't matter to them too much if their time gated content is almost always dead after people fill out their reputation projects.
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    unotetsuunotetsu Member Posts: 660 Arc User
    gizmox64 wrote: »
    I recently rolled a new toon, having just one toon for a few years, and oh my what a grind it has become, but moreover the PvE Qs are vacant.
    To a point really that I can't even get reputation marks to put into my dailys.

    I don't know how other players with so many alts do reputation, as I just have the one and can't get any to Q up.

    I wouldn't mind a mark exchange, even with a penalty, so you spend for instance 50 omega marks to get 35 any other mark etc.... Make it a part of the rep store would be nice for when you have a glut on one mark but want something from a another rep, maybe make it only activate once you get tier 2 or 3 of that rep of the mark you want to "buy"...
    I must warn you, I am quite Isane! I am Grand Duchess of the Abh Empire: Beneej Letopanyu Spoor!
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    leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,376 Arc User
    Make all marks available for CC?? Seriously!? I'd never ever support this....ever! The marks rewarded are related to the enemy/ally in that STF, and to be frankly honest, that's the way it should be.

    Players want rewards related to effort required to complete the STF. CC gives an larger amount of Marks in relation to any other STF mainly due to the fact it can be done in 2 minutes. Should that be reduced now, maybe. Or maybe all the other STF's that are time-controlled should have theirs increased, definately!

    I have mentioned this numerous times before, reintroduce the hourly events and move some there with extra marks as reward for playing them.
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
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    fraghul2000fraghul2000 Member Posts: 1,590 Arc User
    The daily mark box is a big problem as well, as far as the queues are concerned.

    It just doesn't afford to run more than one queued event for each theme. Before the daily reward box, I ran back-to-back STFs, if I needed Omega marks, tech and EDC, sometimes doing a dozen of them each day, covering every Borg Ground and Space STF, in some cases both Elite and Normal. Nowadays, even if I need Omega marks, I run a maximum of 1 "Cure Space Advanced" and that's it.

    Secondly, it puts queues into competition with patrols and battlezones. Why run a long time-gated queue, when you can get your mark box running a 5-minute adventure zone "quest" or a short and interesting patrol mission. Especially the latter are way more fun, rewarding (in case of XP and EC) and they actually reward performance.

    From the Voth-Patch onwards, they could have just left out all the queued events. As far as my personal assessment goes, they wouldn't have been missed.
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    unotetsuunotetsu Member Posts: 660 Arc User
    edited January 2016
    Easy to get Marks by STF / mission List:

    Omega: The Cure found or Infected the conduit or Borg Sector Alert
    Nukura: Tholian sector alert or Crystal Catastrophe
    Romulan: Tholian Sector Alert or Daily ground New Romulus mission (staging area or hour alert)
    Dyson: The Dyson Sphere Space mission(s) In the solanae sphere (non-battlezone ones) or Borg Disconnected Easy
    Delta: Delta Quadrant Sector patrol mission or Borg Disconnected Easy
    Undine: Undine Infiltration ground or Borg Disconnected Easy
    Iconian: Brotherhood of the sword ground
    Terran: Mirror Incursion
    Fleet Marks: Doff reports (fleet starbase console) once you hit over 100K exp in doff category


    I wait in solane sphere zone or new rommie ground area and run those dailies while waiting for the qued STFs to pop so I can get more done at once when I am leveling up a toon in reputation,.

    I must warn you, I am quite Isane! I am Grand Duchess of the Abh Empire: Beneej Letopanyu Spoor!
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    jagdtier44jagdtier44 Member Posts: 376 Arc User
    edited January 2016
    anodynes wrote: »
    Good luck building up 3000 Iconian marks for the space set on Kobali Prime. You'll get 67 marks and 2 datacores for doing those missions once every 20 hours, including the daily marks box, and 6 marks per each time after that. Over 40 days on that one. The rest are all fine, but the non-queue method for Iconian is downright stingy.

    Brotherhood of the sword, took me all of.. 3 days to get the Iconia space set on my alt? 130 first of day, 65 a run. free 500 marks for hitting tier 5 (required for the shield anyway) takes like 10 minutes to complete and rewards 2 probes on elite. it was SO HARD (oh and want to point out I hit 80,000 rep on this alt before my main capped out and handed down a rep token)

    Seriously the real issue is the dead meat queues.. que for the right stuff and theres no issue all 3 of my alts are tier 5 with everything (except Terran at lvl 3 atm, but with 1200 marks a character..)
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    evs2011evs2011 Member Posts: 56 Arc User
    The number of public queues certainly need a significant prune in my opinion. Not all queues need a normal, advanced and elite version either - makes it appear worse than it is. I quite liked what they did with korfez in that its an elite queue only, other queues could possibly have a single level of difficulty.

    Personally, one new queue for each reputation is sufficent (preferably one that has both space and ground elements) so long as there is an alternate way to earn marks (episode replays, battlezones, patrols etc).

    All removed public queues could remain as private ones so very little is actually lost.
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    unotetsuunotetsu Member Posts: 660 Arc User
    evs2011 wrote: »
    The number of public queues certainly need a significant prune in my opinion. Not all queues need a normal, advanced and elite version either - makes it appear worse than it is. I quite liked what they did with korfez in that its an elite queue only, other queues could possibly have a single level of difficulty.

    Personally, one new queue for each reputation is sufficent (preferably one that has both space and ground elements) so long as there is an alternate way to earn marks (episode replays, battlezones, patrols etc).

    All removed public queues could remain as private ones so very little is actually lost.

    I would love the idea of doing a queue but with myself one one other person as usually there is one other fleet member on to run things. I wish we could set the number of people per mission on private queues, but I don't think they coded them with a "scale factor" so you could run an STF with anywhere from 2 people to 20 people...

    I must warn you, I am quite Isane! I am Grand Duchess of the Abh Empire: Beneej Letopanyu Spoor!
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    evs2011evs2011 Member Posts: 56 Arc User
    edited January 2016
    unotetsu wrote: »

    I would love the idea of doing a queue but with myself one one other person as usually there is one other fleet member on to run things. I wish we could set the number of people per mission on private queues, but I don't think they coded them with a "scale factor" so you could run an STF with anywhere from 2 people to 20 people...

    You can run some older queues like 'the big dig' and 'breaking planet' privately with any number of players upto the 20 max, so it shouldn't be too tricky to do it with most other queues.

    The only problem is that with some scripted missions you need a certain number of players to do x or y at the same time (like lowering the forcefield in infected ground or clicking a console in brotherhood of the sword). So its probably not realistic in these instances.

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    gizmox64gizmox64 Member Posts: 322 Arc User
    My biggest issue is that I want to play the content I want. I need Romulan marks, and I want to play the PvE Q Defend Something Station from the Elachi for example. But it seams once people are done with rep, those Qs get abandoned. Also there is an issue of time zone. I can give STO 1 hour in the morning, and 1 hour in the evening during the weekdays, so that is detrimental to my game time. But just today I was Qd and the one I wanted to do, activated 2 times in 26 mins, but the last person never accepted it, so essential it never launched. I'm quite sick of it honestly, and have come to the decision to delete this alt, and only keep my main. ( as my main is full rep, mostly cause it was done with it came out, so more lure for other players to Q it). It's just not worth the time or aggravation it's bringing me.
    This is the main reason I never kept my Romulan or Klingon toons as well.
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    anodynesanodynes Member Posts: 1,999 Arc User
    jagdtier44 wrote: »
    anodynes wrote: »
    Good luck building up 3000 Iconian marks for the space set on Kobali Prime. You'll get 67 marks and 2 datacores for doing those missions once every 20 hours, including the daily marks box, and 6 marks per each time after that. Over 40 days on that one. The rest are all fine, but the non-queue method for Iconian is downright stingy.

    Brotherhood of the sword, took me all of.. 3 days to get the Iconia space set on my alt? 130 first of day, 65 a run. free 500 marks for hitting tier 5 (required for the shield anyway) takes like 10 minutes to complete and rewards 2 probes on elite. it was SO HARD (oh and want to point out I hit 80,000 rep on this alt before my main capped out and handed down a rep token)

    Seriously the real issue is the dead meat queues.. que for the right stuff and theres no issue all 3 of my alts are tier 5 with everything (except Terran at lvl 3 atm, but with 1200 marks a character..)

    Reading comprehension and learning to follow a conversation are things that are helpful in life.

    I replied to the person who posted immediately before me, who was talking about non-queue methods of getting marks, which is why I said as much in the last sentence of my reply.

    Regardless, your experience of getting Iconian done through Brotherhood of the Sword back when Iconian rep was still much more fresh doesn't apply so much today. Literally today, right now, on a weekend, heading into the busiest time of the day on the servers. Only Brotherhood Elite has even an estimated wait time on it, and there are 5 playing and 4 queued for it. That is one of the better queues that isn't Infected Space or Crystalline, and it's almost dead at what is arguably one of the busiest times on the server.
    This is an MMO, not a Star Trek episode simulator. That would make for a terrible game.
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    semalda226semalda226 Member Posts: 1,994 Arc User
    The Horse is dead Jim...stop beating it...
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