Mirror Lockbox Ship Stats

pwlaughingtrendy · January 2016

The new Mirror Incursion Lockbox is loaded up with new ships galore! Check out the latest Tholian and Mirror ships coming out this Thursday!

Go ahead. Check out that Temporal Dreadnought. You know you want to.

~LaughingTrendy

alcyoneserene · January 2016

First thing's first, please tell me there's a 2nd deflector slot on Paradox.

jonathanlonehawk · January 2016

The Paradox's stats are a wee bit confusing... is it a dreadnought or a science vessel? No secondary deflector and no dreadnought cruiser commands. It also has the 4/3 weapon layout of an escort/destroyer. And 3 tactical console slots on a dreadnought seems a bit low. Please clarify. Thanks.

thunderhart · January 2016

i removed my post

ak255 · January 2016

Wow, the stats of the Temporal Dreadnought are a big letdown! 3 Tac consoles, really? "The most feared Terran Empire fleet". If it had 2 hanger bays, that would at least make up for it. But even the Jem'Hadar and Xindi-Aquatic Dreadnoughts have 4 Tac consoles with 2 hanger bays. You expect me to believe that THIS dreadnought helped the Terrans defeat the Iconians in their galaxy?

Also, the 2 piece set on the Temporal set should be altered/buffed. It's completely useless if all you have is the Temporal Destroyer and Dreadnought and not the Science Vessel.

alphahydri · January 2016

reyan01 wrote: »

alcyoneserene wrote: »

First thing's first, please tell me there's a 2nd deflector slot on Paradox.

Unlikely. It isn't a pure Science ship as such - it's a Dreadnought with a rather heavy sci focus.

The Annorax technically is in a class of its own (Science Dreadnought), but has a secondary deflector. The Paradox has a Commander Science station and Sensor Analysis, yet doesn't have a secondary deflector or even some cruiser commands that normally come with a dreadnought-type vessel.

It's like it walks the line between a normal Dreadnought Cruiser and a Science Dreadnought, which gives the ship's layout no sense of direction. Sensor Analysis, though helpful, really needs the buffs from a secondary deflector to become really amazing, which is something the Paradox lacks. I'm hoping it's just a typo and that detail was missed, but I doubt it.

Also, can the Tarantula not equip Mesh Weavers if you have the Recluse? I was kinda hoping for that synergy; could've been really fun!

ussmemphis · January 2016

Same tought here ... what's type is this ship exactly ???

Another thing, thanks for the translation in French for those who doesn't speak english but can you try to correctly copy/past information ???
Example with the Tarentula, 3 Lieutenant Commander ... really nice this ship !

English : Bridge Officer Stations: 1 Lieutenant Commander Tactical/Command, 1 Commander Engineering, 1 Lieutenant Commander Science, 1 Ensign Universal, 1 Lieutenant Universal/Intel
French : Bridge Officer Stations: 1 Lieutenant Commander Tactical/Command, 1 Commander Engineering, 1 Lieutenant Commander Science, 1 Ensign Universal, 1 Lieutenant Commander Universal/Intel

And same problem with the new Krenim ship

English : Bridge Officer Stations: 1 Lieutenant Commander Tactical/Intel, 1 Lieutenant Engineering, 1 Lieutenant Science, 1 Commander Science, 1 Lieutenant Universal
French : Bridge Officer Stations: 1 Lieutenant Commander Tactical, 1 Lieutenant Engineering/Intel, 1 Lieutenant Science, 1 Commander Science, 1 Lieutenant Universal

2 dev blogs and 2 errors, nice work !

jonathanlonehawk · January 2016

reyan01 wrote: »

alcyoneserene wrote: »

First thing's first, please tell me there's a 2nd deflector slot on Paradox.

Unlikely. It isn't a pure Science ship as such - it's a Dreadnought with a rather heavy sci focus.

Looks more like a science vessel (Vesta) that traded it's secondary deflector for the extra fore weapon.

alphahydri · January 2016

jonathanlonehawk wrote: »

reyan01 wrote: »

alcyoneserene wrote: »

First thing's first, please tell me there's a 2nd deflector slot on Paradox.

Unlikely. It isn't a pure Science ship as such - it's a Dreadnought with a rather heavy sci focus.

Looks more like a science vessel (Vesta) that traded it's secondary deflector for the extra fore weapon.

Yeah, except the Annorax got both a secondary deflector slot and an extra fore weapon at no cost.

swamarian · January 2016

The dreadnought has sensor analysis and subsystem targeting. I bet that it's got a secondary deflector.

kyrrok · January 2016

I checked it out. No thanks

Probably all for the better too. I'm betting that will start out at 750million EC.

alphahydri · January 2016

kyrrok wrote: »

I checked it out. No thanks Probably all for the better too. I'm betting that will start out at 750million EC.

If you're talking about the Paradox, a price that high won't happen. Remember that it's a Lobi ship, so no matter how much demand there is for the ship there will always be a constant, steady supply of it. All the Lobi ships on the Exchange right now are under 200 million EC, just for reference.

The price may spike the first few days, but it will settle into that zone eventually. Let's just be glad it wasn't made a promo ship, otherwise that price would be more likely.

ak255 · January 2016

alphahydri wrote: »

jonathanlonehawk wrote: »

reyan01 wrote: »

alcyoneserene wrote: »

First thing's first, please tell me there's a 2nd deflector slot on Paradox.

Unlikely. It isn't a pure Science ship as such - it's a Dreadnought with a rather heavy sci focus.

Looks more like a science vessel (Vesta) that traded it's secondary deflector for the extra fore weapon.

Yeah, except the Annorax got both a secondary deflector slot and an extra fore weapon at no cost.

Yeah, that's all it is: An overbloated Vesta that got an extra weapon slot at the cost of the Secondary Deflector. On top of that, this ship has only 3 Tactical consoles. The Tactical Vesta and Annorax have 4.

risian4 · January 2016

I'm somewhat surprised the Ensign Science station on the Paradox isn't a Universal one. You can either put a tac officer in the lt.commander universal station (but then you lose a lot of sci abilities) or just use one tac boff.

I don't know, but I'm not really inclined to replace my Vesta on my Sci space character.

sheldonlcooper · January 2016

Well I do like the look of the temporal ship but only 3 tac consoles makes me say that I'll stay in my Vesta for now. However, I probably will get it for the trait as that's my bread and butter.

alcyoneserene · January 2016

Dev Confirmed: Yes to Secondary Deflector. Wouldn't have expected any less from a pure Science be it standard or dreadought.

And yes stats check out just right, similar enough to the Annorax, but trading secondary tactical focus for defense/engineering, and adds dual specialty seating in exchange for a slightly less flexible boff layout.

Also, I do wish the Science Dreadnought mastery package was different than normal Science, perhaps swap in Devastating Weaponry for Advanced Shield Systems as one suggestion.

Only issue really is the Timeship fighters: only 3 weapons? Only one special ability? No raider or frigate options? No Scratch the Paint? Beams/torps on pets are great and all, but this is a T6 lobi ship, a dreadnought at that, it deserves much more for its flight deck.

cidstorm · January 2016

And the tradition of lockbox/promotion ships being wildly overpowered continues.

svindal777 · January 2016

Any chance we will be able to kitbash the Paradox with the Wells and Mobius?

eighrichte · January 2016

Secondary deflector shot boosts its appeal for me. Question still remaining for me is: can the Annorax equip this console, as it can with the other two in the set? Not sure that's desirable, but would still like to know if it's possible.

alphahydri · January 2016

eighrichte wrote: »

Secondary deflector shot boosts its appeal for me. Question still remaining for me is: can the Annorax equip this console, as it can with the other two in the set? Not sure that's desirable, but would still like to know if it's possible.

It says the console can be equipped on "any Temporal starship". The Annorax is considered a Temporal starship and seeing as it can equip the other two consoles in the set, it would be a safe bet to assume it can equip this one as well.

orion0029 · January 2016

I'll admit I have little interest in the Temporal Dreadnought, I don't run lockbox ships so I don't care to want them.

Which brings me to my gripe about this, Those Aeon Timeship hangars... Only purchasable if one owns a Temporal Dreadnought?

Why not make them usable on any ship and purchasable with EITHER the Dreadnought or a Timeship Shuttle? I HAVE one of those, and have been patiently awaiting a timeship hangar for quite some time...

Well, that dream is dead.

Thanks.

aristocratsuprem · January 2016

What I wanna know is, will the Temporal Fragmentation set (Manheim and Tipler consoles) be modified in stats to allow it's set use on the Paradox ship? Now that the Manheim Effect is no longer a self-destruct sequence, I use it a lot.

aristocratsuprem · January 2016

kyrrok wrote: »

I checked it out. No thanks Probably all for the better too. I'm betting that will start out at 750million EC.

And I only got 690 mil. ARRRGH! Hopefully it'll come down in price after a week or so. I don't want this to become the new bug ship of STO in legendary prices.

alphahydri · January 2016

aristocratsuprem wrote: »

What I wanna know is, will the Temporal Fragmentation set (Manheim and Tipler consoles) be modified in stats to allow it's set use on the Paradox ship? Now that the Manheim Effect is no longer a self-destruct sequence, I use it a lot.

It says in the blog post that the Paradox's console forms a set with the two consoles from the Temporal Science Vessels and Temporal Destroyers.

aristocratsuprem wrote: »

kyrrok wrote: »

I checked it out. No thanks Probably all for the better too. I'm betting that will start out at 750million EC.

And I only got 690 mil. ARRRGH! Hopefully it'll come down in price after a week or so. I don't want this to become the new bug ship of STO in legendary prices.

Believe me, the price won't go that high. Just look at what I posted above. Lobi ship= low prices.

aristocratsuprem · January 2016

alphahydri wrote: »

Believe me, the price won't go that high. Just look at what I posted above. Lobi ship= low prices.

But this one may be the exception. A large T6 Temporal ship with 4 fore weapon slots, AND secondary defector, AND fighter pets? It's a Turducken of the Jupiter, Wells, and Guardian.

eighrichte · January 2016

It occurs to me that the two-piece bonus doesn't do you any good if you equip the Temporal Rift Stabilizer and the Manheim device. It's only useful if the Tipler Cylinder is one of the two consoles you equip.

lan451 · January 2016

For the first time in a long while, I'm actually excited about a ship in this game. I will have that Paradox. I already have a Wells, Aeon, and the Wells uniform. No Mobius, but maybe get that one later. I'm pleased to see it's a Lobi ship too. That means it will be down in the price levels I can afford.

Quick question @ Cryptic: Can I use my Aeon skin on it? I love using that on my Wells and would love to use it on the Paradox as well.

strorus · January 2016

Extremely disappointed that this was not an Engineering Cruiser Dreadnought. We already have a Sci (Wells) and Tac (Mobius) Temporal ships; where is the Temporal Cruiser!?

potasssium · January 2016

strorus wrote: »

Extremely disappointed that this was not an Engineering Cruiser Dreadnought. We already have a Sci (Wells) and Tac (Mobius) Temporal ships; where is the Temporal Cruiser!?

Disquised as a Police Box in London.

But seriously no KDF or Romulan Hull, not even Korath Pets... Secondary Deflector is ok, but not sure I want to grab this for my Gorn Sci with the timeships & shuttle. Not feeling it anymore, at least it is a Lobi Ship. I just want a different Hull...

Kind of like how I feel about the Kobali Ship, it's exactly what I want in a t6 Fed Cruiser, except for it's hull.

lopequil · January 2016

Really glad to hear about the Rozhenko hangar pets. I wonder if they will have the subatomic deflector. Probably not given how the pet AI works.

Not having KDF or Romulan skins is really disappointing though.

@aristocratsuprem By and large the Lobi ships all sell for roughly the same on exchange depending on whether they cost eight or nine hundred. The only reason a newer release should cost more is novelty. Unlike promotions and random unboxing from crates the supply of Lobi ships never changes; it's just as difficult to get a Temporal Destoyer as it is a Dromias or the adapted Borg ship. Lockboxes, however, get rarer over time and the number of saleable lockbox ships does the same.

staq16 · January 2016

Well, that Dread looks like it might be the thing to finally get my KDF Sci out of his Korath. Shame that there isn't a KDF version this time around, but the ability to use Rozhenko fighters is a decent nod.

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