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Path of the Warrior for Fed, please
farranor
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The KDF daily Path of the Warrior (with its associated Alpha and Bravo missions) provides a decent opportunity to test your DPS, your tankiness, and your control ability, and get some dilithium in the process. It would be nice if it was available for Fed characters. You could even have it be 99% the same, and just change the mission text to add "defectors" or "separatists" after every mention of the Federation, or change "Federation" to "Terran Empire."
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Put the difficulty on Elite, and enjoy the fight. you will be able to try your builds
No. I don't sign for "Fed gets everything good from KDF" mentality, you can just go and test your "DPS, your tankiness and your control ability" on Japori or any other romulan system just like thetanine said, or in Dyson/Badlands like everybody else where you'd atleast be challenged and could test your build.
This isn't about dilithium either, because by the time I'm done with admiralty and doffing on a character, I have 6-7k dilithium, sometimes I even cap on these alone, without touching any kind of meaningful content (and ever since Delta, everything practicly gives some dilithium).
So no, I am definitely against this. If this could be made into unique missions for the Federation and implemented thematically into Fed (for example - I don't know, first contact, distress calls, defending and escorting the convoy, something unique), then I would have nothing against it, but taking something from KDF and just switching NPCs to Terran etc and giving away to Fed is just bad towards a portion of the playerbase... KDF already have very little original content left in game after most of unique stuff made it to Fed one way or another.
If you want to play those missions then create a KDF toon. I play all three factions and I am sick and tired of Feddy Bears asking to have everything that is exclusive to the KDF and Romulan factions while people playing those factions have to bend over and take like a man because the game is overwhelmingly in favor of the Federation.
I personally want there to be a bit of balancing in favor of the KDF and RR like at least one T6 science ship and missions / items that are exclusive to those factions.
I must agree. Why must the distinctiveness as minimized as it is be continually be TRIBBLE, TRIBBLE, TRIBBLE away at until the KDF and RRF are nothing more than a sick joke at the expense of themselves? So the Feddie bears can have absolutely everything including the kitchen sink? I must join in with an emphatic NO!
Thank you for the suggestions! I just tried out the following system patrols, with these results:
The only remotely interesting ones were the trading and Gekli herding. The rest were just "here are some NPCs; destroy them." If you try Path of the Warrior, you will see that the latter provides a more objective-based experience.
In half of PotW's sub-missions, you have to defeat a series of ships while preventing them from calling for reinforcements. This requires jamming their signal before they either succeed in this or get destroyed - if you just swoop in and pop them in two seconds without making sure to jam communications first, you will fail.
In two sub-missions, you have to damage fleeing freighters until they turn friendly, then loot them (taking damage flinch into account) without killing them, while avoiding or destroying reinforcements. This involves DPS to quickly stop the freighters, defense to survive the reinforcements, immunity or placate effects to loot freighters without needing to destroy reinforcements first, and control abilities to keep the freighters from fleeing. My Lethean toon even got Tractor Beam Repulsors to help with this.
In one sub-mission, you have to destroy ships in drydock before they become active, while avoiding and surviving reinforcements (with an extra-optional optional of looting some freighters before they escape).
It is a far cry from "equip epics and press spacebar."
See above for how those patrol missions are much duller than PotW.
I only suggested that it might be done with almost no changes because more difficult to implement means less likely to implement.
I did create a KDF toon - four of them, in fact, which outnumbers my Fed toons. I also have a variety of builds, including tanky BFAW cruisers, an exotic damage torp boat, a CC carrier, a DHC raider, and a couple escort-type things, because who wants to have the same DPS-optimized 8-beam BFAW cruiser for every character? Not I, that's for sure.
I would like to be able to try these interesting missions with my other builds, which happen to not be on KDF toons.
And I would LOVE to finally have a T6 sci ship for non-Fed characters (maybe this year's anniversary ship?). It would also be nice to have sci ships as leveling options, rather than just the Vo'Quv and nothing else. I've said as much any time the subject comes up, on in-game chat or here on the forums.
I would like the KDF and RR to have everything, too. More science ships, more costumes, everything. I don't think "we can't have your stuff so you can't have our stuff" is a reasonable (or even rational) approach.
As I said above, the suggested missions are bland, cookie-cutter "here are ships, press spacebar now" deals, while PotW is actually somewhat interesting and objective-based (ironic that the KDF get the missions that require some thought, isn't it?).
As I also said, I did roll a KDF character - four of them. I have more KDF characters than I do Fed characters. They have different builds, though, so it would be nice if this particular content were available for all, the same way the Tour is available for anyone who wants to put their sector space setups to the test.
Development time is limited, whether something is being remastered or is new content. Time invested into the readjustment of exiting content so that it can be adopted by one faction is time not spent on the other two groups and offers them nothing. It isn't that you are suggesting content KDF be re purposed for Federation consumption that really bothers me; It is the dearth of content that already exists for Fed consumption while there is true disparity on the Romulan and KDF fronts.
In the case of T6 Science vessels there isn't one. It isn't a case of none of them, "Suiting my playstyle". There are none. You don't like the content you are spoiled and choked by. KDF and Romulan Science captains have invested play time over the course of years to find the "road" arrived at a dead end over a year ago unless they wanted to play the 5-u game or the lottery for eyesores.
It sounds like you have a lot of, "Klingon friends". You are well on your way down The Path of the Dingus.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
Limited dev time is the reason I suggested that it be ported over with such a minimal change (adding "Mirror" to the mission text dialogs). And I realize there's no T6 sci vessel for KDF - there aren't even many lower-tier sci vessels (have you tried leveling a KDF sci officer? BoPs until you get a Vo'Quv). Roms have it tough, too.
Yes. The "Japori Type" missions put you directly in the action, as the baddies are already attacking your allies when you warp in to the system.
In my opinion, these are the best of this type in the entire game. They net me lots of ROM Marks that I do not need at all. I trade them in for dil, sure, but--to me--the "Japori's" are TOPS. No story needed.
funny .... as is comon opinion Klingons are dumb and dews dont like them
yea we re dumb , but we dont need "docking procedure" advice aroud our stations ( fly close and press "dock" )
and i play all three storyline ......Fed missions are dumb and booring , some totaly stupid
for example .....captain we need beam some crystal aboard , ok why not
TRIBBLE , transporter dont work ! Gorn Jamming Station block him
ok , we fly closer and use TRANSPORTER to beam there few nukes....
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Mission:_Hide_and_Seek
i love klingon one......we have best missions in whole game , Rura Penthe finale was my first "wow" moment in STO
so please , keep misions which need use BRAIN for romulans and Klingons , "broken spacebars" misions are enrough for "peaceful" Federation
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I can't tell whether you're implying that I only play Fed and therefore want to steal content from KDF (I don't; I have 3 Fed and 4 KDF), or if you're talking about others, in which I case don't know whom.
It's "action" but it only goes as far as "mindlessly attack until everything is dead," which is doable on BFAW cruisers by just flying in circles and pressing spacebar. You can't succeed at PotW like that. That's why I'd like to try my Fed builds on PotW.
You can do that in a Qaw'Dun BoP, too, but I still wouldn't call a BoP a sci ship (even with a "pseudo" qualifier).
2. So?
So?... You roll KDF instead.
NO! Tired of Fed players getting stuff that should be either Rom or Klingon only.
I don't see what that suggestion has to do with explaining what's wrong with Feds flying BoPs, but I did roll KDF. However, I made a variety of characters and builds, so I was hoping to try some builds that happen to be on Fed characters on PotW's unique missions.
This is the fourth time I've stated in this thread that I have KDF toons. Can we please stop insisting that I try something I've already done? Thanks.
Then you can start by stop clamoring for even more Feds taking unique aspects from the other factions. You guys want the missions too?
I really don't see any actual issue with this other than exclusivity, a.k.a. "this is my toy and if someone else were to get one just like it then I wouldn't enjoy it anymore because I derive pleasure by depriving others of it." Is the STO playerbase really that childish?
Likewise I dont cry out my Excelsior or my Vorcha doesn't have a Battle Cloak and my silly Rom have it on Any ship She flies, I dont come asking on forums that my KDFs and Feds should get battle Cloak from Roms and defend it "I thought we Are above exclusivity", cause that would be Just childish and selfish, taking something that is thematic and unique to RR and giving it away.
So please get out of your entitlement-BS bubble.
If you have a problem understanding that concept, then you're definitely one of those entitlement Fedbears that take no care of what other people Enjoy in and Just want to take everything good and unique for yourself.
Or maybe it's like asking for a T6 KDF sci vessel when Fed is the sci-heavy faction. Is that so bad? I don't think it is. Or maybe it's like the KDF having access to that trading mission on Nequencia, even though it's jarring to see them politely trading (my boffs even said as much) - when I zoned in to that for the first time on my KDF toon I was expecting combat. Or maybe it's like asking for KDF to get a complete leveling experience from level 1 just like Fed has, or like asking for KDF to not be "the PvP faction." I also am not asking for Fed to get access to "everything" that the KDF has. I just think it would be nice to have this interesting mission available for all players and builds.
Two Fed ships so far have a cloak. How long do you think it'll be before we see a Fed ship with a battle cloak?
I think the real entitlement here is to exclusivity. It isn't even exclusive to anything more special than faction, which is nothing more than an inconvenience. It's not like event ship exclusivity, for which there is at least a minimal argument - all this particular exclusivity does is make it annoying to test builds. A player who wants to test a character's build on content exclusive to the other faction would have to clone that build on a new toon. This isn't special in any way; it's just a pointless hurdle.
For the fifth time, I have more KDF toons than Fed toons. And I'll have you know that my KDF toons have appropriate KDF names, and actual Klingon ship names - e.g., my Gorn's Rezreth is the I.K.S. Sargh maQmIgh (Darkhorse).
How would someone else enjoying certain content on a certain kind of toon without having to clone a build "take" anything away from you? All anyone would have to do for a change like this to not affect them in any way is to not play the content on toons they feel shouldn't have access to it. The exclusivity argument here is like being happy whenever Netflix makes content exclusive to your country because if too many people watch that content it'll somehow worsen your experience with it.
Don't you have a Fed toon or two that you'd like to try PotW on? A Romulan that you'd like to actually level as a full science officer with a science ship? A Fed with lots of prisoners and nothing much to do with them? A KDF toon for which you would like to get something when a special promotion gives Feds a free ship? I'm sure you can think of something that would improve your gameplay experience if you could suddenly do it on a toon that used to be the wrong faction for it.