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whistlerdavid
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It happens a lot more then i would like to admit but half the time all three v-rex is dead by the time i run across the map to get to it.peoples ability's and traits make them so op that he dies way to fast. his hp needs to go up i would say at lest by 10k. i am not the only one that doesn't make it on time i have seen mobs of people miss it by seconds.if i could just get to one v- rex i would be happy
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It's a pain to get to the vrexs sometimes but again that's part of the point is to make it difficult to get all 3 of them. yes they do sometimes die quickly but consider how many people are typically beating on them. if you have 5 players plus their 2 boffs at each dino spawn, that's 15 people counting the boffs that are shooting at each individual rex. assuming that the boffs survive and move to the next dino with the player, that's another 3 people per player that jump in on the rex. as much as I wish I could get credit for all of them like in ye olden days I don't see this as needed. Don't take this the wrong way but, learn the routes and get good at running them. once you learn the quickest ways to get to and from each rex it'll make it alot easier. You only need 1% of the rex's health dealt to him for you personally to get credit for the kill, without him healing it back. It's supposed to be somewhat difficult to get all 3 dinos but can be done.
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Haha, ya. Like in the space BZ where if you get all 3 objectives, then a fleet shows up. Same should happen on the ground, get all 3 silos and then you get a bunch of troops beaming down plus an Indominus every now and then.
I agree that the V-Rex needs more health, but I also think the reward system should change so that you cant just shoot it a few times and then run to the next one. While we're at it I also think that the V-Rex AI should be changed a bit. To prevent him from spinning around like a giant top I think that every time he changes targets he wont change targets again for about 10 seconds or so.
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Point is, there are instances where almost no one is helping and there's so many campers laying down chroniton mines that the V-rex is killed before those who captured the last point can reach the silo. Meaning you sometimes don't get a reward at all, UNLESS you're camping.
As @misterferengi pointed out, that's the problem. The campers are killing everything so fast because they're in a good position when the final phase of the zones triggers.
Besides, it may not be reasonable to expect being able to get all 3 V-rexes, but then again I don't consider it reasonable that someone who's camping and not helping triggering the final phase gets significant rewards either. And yet this is happening so I assume that things aren't working how they're *supposed* to work anyway.
It's the campers that are the problem; as in so many cases in this game, a small number of 'sploiters ruin it for the vast majority.
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A better option would be once the final phase is triggered everyone is beamed back to the command for a briefing, Then have to either run out the exits to each Silo or use the transporters. Everyone starts from the same position. Everyone can see which silo the biggest crowd of players is heading for and can follow, Hitting all 3 will still be luck guessing where everyone goes for the 2nd V-rex but at least this is fair to those that capture the zone and stops the campers advantage of sitting on the v-rex doorstep.
someone in a previous thread mentioned this idea before and was shot down. Which a camper would do as they lose their advantage.
someone in a previous thread mentioned this idea before and was shot down. Which a camper would do as they lose their advantage. [/quote]
This would be the best option as it would benefit everyone but the campers, and give all a equal chance, though i would say also putting a shield around the V-rex area in each zone so you can't camp right near the rexes would be good. I also like the idea of another group of Voth beam in maybe within the command center, and has a unique-looking commander that might drop his unique armor-look as a drop. With maybe have it that the teleporters are disabled an you need to fight thru waves of Voth to get inside to take out the commander.
Not sure why you want all 3. 2 out of the 3 is just as good and the reward after the silos are capped is still the same even if you killed only one rex. Unless you are not getting any then you are doing something that isn't working right because every night for the last year I have had no problem getting 2 V-rexs and maybe every now an again 3.
P.S. Also they did change the ending reward to be static even if you kill one or all 3 its still the same reward the only difference is you get the extra stuff for killing that V-Rex, but the way it works is all 3 silos need to be capped miss one and the reward is lower.
So much this! I've been to the Dyson BZ many times, and in recent months it seems that one has to either write off the boss battles or haul *&^ on frosted boots to catch one of the V-rex's before its toast. On a good day I can muster getting two, but that's only if the last point I capture is directly adjacent to a V-Rex spawn.
The best solution to this would be a modest** boost to their (V-Rex) health along with beaming everyone back to command as soon as they spawn, this would solve the camping issue as well as the problem of players being on the far side of a sector capturing that out-of-the-way point when the boss battle begins.
***Modest as in a few thousand health, 5k would suffice, I think, if everyone were beamed back to command at the beginning of the boss battle
1. Keep an eye on the meter
2. Never leave the farthest capture point to the end
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Unless that was changed?
Absolutely not. I could be working on one of the dailies and am gathering up reinforcement tokens etc. Not do I always head off for a V-Rex when I'm there. It all depends on what I'm working on. However, a delay of 30-60 seconds would be a good idea.
As for scaling the rewards based on points you've participated in capturing, that wouldn't work either. They'll just figure out how long they need to stick around to get credited for it and then head of. That already happens. And you couldn't make it really long either as then no one that shows up late would bother helping out on points that are already on their way to being captured.
In other words, once all the zones are taken, a 2min. timer will begin counting down, and once it has finished only than will the V-rexes appear!
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Also, don't give the big reward for the the final kill. Give rewards for taking enemy points and a bonus, say 50%, on top of it for killing the T-Rex. And, get rid of the tagging system. No rewards for those that leave the battle premature.
Instead, get creative. Place your BOFFs on aggressive setting at the two spawns you aren't and let them contribute for you. The catch is that you need someone there to watch your guys and resurrect them, so it's best to do this with a team of three.
I'm not sure this works, but it might be worth a try
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Agreed. The dino-tagging mechanic actually guaranteed that full teams were circulating and stopped at the last dino in their rotation, meaning with the tagging we had guaranteed participation in all three dinos and almost guaranteed three-piece victory. Some people don't realize that the tagging actually was a good and healthy thing. The only problem that could arise was that the whole instance used the same rotation, ending at the same dino but in my experience (and I used to play the BZ a lot) this was a rare occasion.
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That is true though you could just go back to working on the dailies, and gathering without much issue after being beamed back, where as the fact of campers that take out rexes before others can tag them denies others the ability to get rewards they might/do deserve. It is a minor inconvenience at most for a small group, but which helps a large group get rewards they worked to unlock access to that can be denied to them by not being able to tag the rexes before they are killed.
I could say that making it that if you have captured over a certain number of points leading up to the rexes being spawned, than you get credit for each rex that is killed/downed even if you did not tag it, while if you do tag them you get a bonus to the marks/dil gained from the zone completion. This would benefit those that don't camp the spawns, but instead help the people actually capturing the points, while also making it that your effort to finish the zone is rewarded the more you participated in the points leading up to the rexes (they already do this to an extent with you gaining more marks an dil from points.). For me i would say you would need to have helped cap atleast 75% of the points needed to spawn the rexes to get a auto credit for each rex killed, though you would still need to have the rexes killed to get any credit at all.
Make the Voth BZ work like the Defera Invasion Zone.
The capture part of the BZ (turning the red parts blue) for Marks will work like the "Easy" and "Medium" Defera missions.
The queued part will be the Rex killing, similar to the Defera hard run.
Maybe with it's own instance and reworked zone capture prerequisites.
Existing Dino hp and rewards won't have to be changed...nah needs more Dil.
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