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grob44grob44 Member Posts: 60 Arc User
in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Today I noticed a player who had a ship named the same as one of my characters ships. Spelled the same, no trickey respell or anything, exactly the same. Switched to that character everything was there, tried to track down other player but by the time I searched they had logged.
The ship they were using was one of the intels, so its something they bought, I never had enough money to by one of those. I'm not missing anything except some accolade glitch.
All my captains play, not missing any zen, dil or ec. Is it allowed to have duplicate ship names? Should I worry about a TRIBBLE account, that seems unlikely since the other player had a more expensive ship and I'm not missing anything.
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    berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    Yes, different players are able to have the same ship names.
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    grob44grob44 Member Posts: 60 Arc User
    whew, thanks was sort of worried there for a bit, that's a load off my mind.
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    dumas13dumas13 Member Posts: 281 Arc User
    I'll always remember meeting another player whose ship not only had the same name, but the same general model as the main ship of one of my toons. I think I was playing a different toon at the time, but it was a bit surprising to learn there were two Sovereign-class Arcadias running around (leaving aside the details about refit/fleet/Mirror Star Cruiser).
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    grob44grob44 Member Posts: 60 Arc User
    I remember when I first started how the AI was always kicking back my ship names as already used or some such message, I didn't think the AI allowed it, I was wrong.
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    berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    A player can't have two ships by the same name, perhaps that is why you were getting an error message?
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    mewmaster101mewmaster101 Member Posts: 1,239 Arc User
    bergins wrote: »
    A player can't have two ships by the same name, perhaps that is why you were getting an error message?

    They also cannot share the name of a famous vessel from the series or movies.
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    admrenlarreckadmrenlarreck Member Posts: 2,041 Arc User
    I have a Character named Keanna, Popped into a random red alert and found a Keanna in there. So two characters can have the same name as well as ships. As long as the @handle is different its good.
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    tomoyosakagami1tomoyosakagami1 Member Posts: 146 Arc User
    You can have any ship name except for Enterprise, Voyager and Defiant.

    I remember seeing a ship called U.S.S. Enter-Her-Prise though.

    I personally haven't seen any ships named U.S.S. Infinity or U.S.S. November, two prominent names I use for my own ships.
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    jade1280jade1280 Member Posts: 868 Arc User
    Names are one thing but If the other ship has the EXACT same register number then you have some strange things going on...
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    grylakgrylak Member Posts: 1,594 Arc User
    I've spotted a few Sentinel's and the odd Viper running around, the name of my 2 main Fed ships. Though I've not seen any duplicates of my DarkFyre or Halestorm yet. A fair few Serenity's though. Noable as I'm in Firefly Fleet.
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    tiriusavarotiriusavaro Member Posts: 92 Arc User
    It would be a fun statistic if Cryptic could check the server for the number of different and/or unique ship names in use, or perhaps the most common ship names in use. I'm betting the numbers would be very high.
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    lordsteve1lordsteve1 Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    I had a ship name and model match with another guy in a mirror invasion run a few years back and this guy was on with a teammate. I was throwing out heals and the two couldn't work out who was healing them as the names all matched.
    Was a pretty complicated run!
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    ryugasiriusryugasirius Member Posts: 283 Arc User
    There are literally millions of ships in the game (let's say there are only 100.000 accounts, with 4 characters on average, with a total of 400.000 characters, each having some 5 active ships, we're already at 2 milion ships). There is no way all of them can be named differently (the best English dictionaries count some 250.000 words), unless we used numbers ("U.S.S. Entyrprize2314") or meaningless strings of characters ("U.S.S. fijssdadfae"), both being terrible choices.
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    dalolorndalolorn Member Posts: 3,655 Arc User
    edited December 2015
    You assume that English is the only source language. I also have Klingon, Romulan, Protoss (well, okay, not anymore, but my first starter ship used to be the U.S.S. Aiur) and Tarhedian. :tongue:
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    ryugasiriusryugasirius Member Posts: 283 Arc User
    dalolorn wrote: »
    You assume that English is the only source language. I also have Klingon, Romulan, Protoss (well, okay, not anymore, but my first starter ship used to be the U.S.S. Aiur) and Tarhedian. :tongue:

    These are a few dozen to a few hundred words each :P
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    dalolorndalolorn Member Posts: 3,655 Arc User
    edited December 2015
    Now you assume from my example that fictional languages are the only non-English ones used. Not everyone on these forums (or in this game) is a native English speaker. :wink:

    Good point, though.

    Edit: Wasn't Klingon built up into a proper language, though? That would improve the vocabulary to be at least a substantial fraction of English, if not equivalent to (or even greater than) it.
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    ryugasiriusryugasirius Member Posts: 283 Arc User
    dalolorn wrote: »
    Edit: Wasn't Klingon built up into a proper language, though? That would improve the vocabulary to be at least a substantial fraction of English, if not equivalent to (or even greater than) it.

    The latest (1992?) edition of the official Klingon Dictionary contained less than 2000 words (1800 or so) IIRC. But even if you put together the top 5 languages used on STO, they are still insufficient :P
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    seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    tomoyosakagami1 wrote: »
    You can have any ship name except for Enterprise, Voyager and Defiant.

    You also can't use Excelsior. But yes, you can use anything except those.

    I have seen people with the same ship names as me many times, and even seen other captains with the same name as me.

    What's really great is when they release a ship class that takes one of your names. My Breen Carrier has been named Callisto since I unlocked it, and now it's the name of Hangar Pets. I also had a Fleet Assault Cruiser named the Resolute. :)
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    mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited December 2015
    You can also combine two words to get a name.

    You could have something like "U.S.S. Nathan James", "U.S.S. Unseen Academy", "IKS Bow & Arrow", "Lack of Gravitas".

    But one of my favorite features of STO is the fact that you have the character_name@account_name system. Even if you might not be able to pick your favorite accout name if it's taken, you can pick your favorite character name. That removes a lot of name-finding headaches other MMOs suffer from.
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    ryugasiriusryugasirius Member Posts: 283 Arc User
    mustrumridcully0 wrote: »
    But one of my favorite features of STO is the fact that you have the character_name@account_name system. Even if you might not be able to pick your favorite accout name if it's taken, you can pick your favorite character name. That removes a lot of name-finding headaches other MMOs suffer from.

    Yep, this is something I really appreciated on Cryptic games. There can be more than one character with the same name (just like in real life), but still with a unique ID (like in real life).
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    fiberteksyfirfiberteksyfir Member Posts: 1,207 Arc User
    Lol yeah OP for sure different people can have the same ship name.. Go to earth orbit and count the number of Normandys floating around (and subsequently, characters named John Shepherd)
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    lopequillopequil Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    Yes Klingon has been fleshed out enough to make up some decent ship names. Happily, some longer phrases like I.K.S. Always Ready to Fight Dirty are only two words so fit nicely in the space provided. I think I called my new Sheshar the Expensive Purchase and I have a veteran ship on an alt called The Gift That Keeps On Giving. My Ferengi shuttle is naturally the good ship I.K.S. Supposedly Trustworthy.
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    chastity1337chastity1337 Member Posts: 1,606 Arc User
    mustrumridcully0 wrote: »
    You can also combine two words to get a name.

    You could have something like "U.S.S. Nathan James", "U.S.S. Unseen Academy", "IKS Bow & Arrow", "Lack of Gravitas".

    Oooh, Lack of Gravitas, that's from one of the 'Culture' novels by Iain M Banks. A good series, but 'Use of Weapons', the third one, was truly horribly bad - just endless dreary pages of maudlin, self-indulgent, emo nonsense, like a Harlequin Romance or something.

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    kyrrokkyrrok Member Posts: 1,352 Arc User
    There are a lot of Enterprice, Enterprize, Enterpris and ENTERPRISE1701D around. Apparently, there are many who don't want to be captain of a ship other than the Enterprise.
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    lopequillopequil Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    @chastity1337 I sense that you didn't get as far as Feersum Enjinn. Be grateful.
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    chainfallchainfall Member Posts: 243 Arc User
    What is really fun is when you run into a player with the same name.
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    dareaudareau Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    seaofsorrows wrote: »
    tomoyosakagami1 wrote: »
    You can have any ship name except for Enterprise, Voyager and Defiant.

    You also can't use Excelsior. But yes, you can use anything except those.

    Or Reliant.

    But having the Tuffli Freighter "S.S. Botany Bay" is both legal and - so far - the only ship I've flown/named that someone else "shares" with me...
    Detecting big-time "anti-old-school" bias here. NX? Lobi. TOS/TMP Connie? Super-promotion-box. (aka the two hardest ways to get ships) Excelsior & all 3 TNG "big hero" ships? C-Store. Please Equalize...

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    mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    chastity1337 wrote: »
    mustrumridcully0 wrote: »
    You can also combine two words to get a name.

    You could have something like "U.S.S. Nathan James", "U.S.S. Unseen Academy", "IKS Bow & Arrow", "Lack of Gravitas".

    Oooh, Lack of Gravitas, that's from one of the 'Culture' novels by Iain M Banks. A good series, but 'Use of Weapons', the third one, was truly horribly bad - just endless dreary pages of maudlin, self-indulgent, emo nonsense, like a Harlequin Romance or something.
    Funny, Use of Weapons might have been one of my favorites. ;)

    But anyway, a lot of cool ship names to pick from. Though many are too long for STO. :(

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    kayajaykayajay Member Posts: 1,990 Arc User
    I'll never understand why they block Enterprise, Voyager, Defiant, etc and the registry numbers. If someone wants it, why not let them?
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    bluedarkybluedarky Member Posts: 548 Arc User
    kayajay wrote: »
    I'll never understand why they block Enterprise, Voyager, Defiant, etc and the registry numbers. If someone wants it, why not let them?

    Same reason why we can't have an end game Constitution class.
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