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Ugh, dreadnought :(
chastity1337
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Not what I was hoping for. I had hoped for a decent Sci ship usable by KDF. But no, one more fat, ugly cruiser that cluebies can build into one more spacebar-spamming BFAW failboat, no brain required.
Oh well, lo que no podemos cambiar, tenemos que aceptar con filosofía. Enough negativity.
I am still looking forward to the Winter Event with great anticipation. It's my favorite event of the year. I love skating on the frozen lake and being able to do wild jumps and flips, and all the events are great good fun. I will be a blast, I'm sure, and the new treats look interesting, Cryogenic Stasis Field, oooooooh...
"Don't you want an epohh friend?"
"Q is a genius! And so handsome!"
"Let's make a tasty treat together!"
(/me sidles away from Neelix while looking nervous)
Oh well, lo que no podemos cambiar, tenemos que aceptar con filosofía. Enough negativity.
I am still looking forward to the Winter Event with great anticipation. It's my favorite event of the year. I love skating on the frozen lake and being able to do wild jumps and flips, and all the events are great good fun. I will be a blast, I'm sure, and the new treats look interesting, Cryogenic Stasis Field, oooooooh...
"Don't you want an epohh friend?"
"Q is a genius! And so handsome!"
"Let's make a tasty treat together!"
(/me sidles away from Neelix while looking nervous)
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I'm sure I'll be spending the Event trying to once again get all the new items. It's a weird thing for me, I'm such a selective completionist. I couldn't care less about having all the achievements in the games I play, but when it comes to special events like this I'm all over them.
The universe has a wonderful sense of humor. The trick is learning how to take a joke.
Well...if you want to be technical...they did two Tac ships in a row (3 I think if you want to count the Risian Escort)...is a bigger difference between a Sci ship and a Carrier than a Raider and a Destroyer IMO.
That's a bit of an odd situation, as they changed from using Risian ships to Ferengi ships. In effect they started a new, separate cycle, or perhaps extended on the previous Ferengi cycle as the first Ferengi ship was Engineer-focused. I believe the prevalent thought before the Nandi was revealed was that this summer's ship was going to be a Risian science vessel as it would have made sense within the Risian ship cycle. The Winter event has only been Breen ships however (not counting the first year with the limited JHAS), so the existing cycle continues, and Engineer is next up.
The universe has a wonderful sense of humor. The trick is learning how to take a joke.
Umm, no. A carrier is not a Science ship, anymore than a limousine is a sports car.
A Sci ship needs the maneuverability to be able to direct the pointy end toward the enemy.
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Because, oh wise and all-seeing one, not all of us picked up on that.
And for the love of ****, your signature is the most obnoxious of all. How do I disable the display of that abomination??
Thanks Cryptic, and ignore the whining.
Because options to improve turn rate aren't available or easily accessible... /sarcasm
I used the Sarr Theln for a while and had it geared towards the use of Gravity Well, don't tell me the Sarr Theln isn't a viable Science platform. And this is all beside the point. Last year's ship was Science-focused regardless of your opinions on its viability. This year's ship is Engineering-focused because it's next in the cycle.
The universe has a wonderful sense of humor. The trick is learning how to take a joke.
It's ok; we've only had several threads over the Rezreth since the Admiralty System came out, and all of them died off the first three pages after some time. Then there's the occasional thread where the winter event was being discussed and the Rezreth was brought up due to its Admiralty card.
Then there's all the discussion in Zone, NoP, and even Trade chats across all factions where the Rezreth was mentioned for anyone asking what ship we'd likely get this winter event. It's understandable that one may somehow miss it all due to shutting off certain chat channels or not tuning in to a certain chat channel or even bothering to ask in a chat channel. It's also understandable that people wouldn't trust the information since plenty love to lie in chat.
It's perfectly understandable and forgivable. But it's clearly not an issue because there were enough places and means to get the information from and based on whatever information gleaned, temper any expectations.
Worry not; and don't look forward to the Anniversary ship(s) either, since the only speculation we have is that it may be T6 Flagships (Odyssey, Bortas, and Scimitar). Of course, unlike the Rezreth, this is all pure speculation with nothing but a single line from a blog story mentioning the Odyssey and the fact that next year is the 50th Star Trek Anniversary year.
As to the statement about a sci ship has to be maneuverable, my Annorax would like to have a word with you.
Wouldn't that mean the Tholians would make for a better Summer ship selection? Granted, it kind of defeats the purpose of another possible Tholian lockbox using their new Herald Lockbox style setup (with a Dreadnought as the supreme prize), but it would be perfect if they gave out Tholian Science Dreadnoughts, which is more or less the last real ship available to give out in the Tholian line.
You'd have to be crazy to think they'd honestly give away something like a T6 Scimitar for free. If anything, the T6 dreadnoughts might be coming to the C-Store around that time, but it's likely that the free anniversary ship(s) will be something else entirely.
What cycle? The first two Breen ships were both Tac ships...there is no *cycle*.
Realistically, I'd expect something other than the Flagships, but the speculation over tying an Enterprise with the 50th Anniversary year, and given the fact the official Enterprise is the F, an Odyssey, does make it seem reasonable and not completely random.
Right, because a 900 million EC lockbox ship is such a great example.
For those who didn't get it, this is an SWTOR joke. There's a race of porcine midgets known for their engineering skills, and they are called Ughnauts, or however you spell it.
Sarr Theln is not a Science Ship. It is a Carrier primarily, with a science orientation.
Twisting false facts by word play on 'platforms' & 'science-focused' is transparent attempt at misdirection.
Facts: Secondary Deflector, science starship package, Sensor Analysis. The Sarr has none of these, except for Cmd Sci, subsystem targeting, and 4 sci console slots which are still 1 short of a fully capable (real) science ship.
Carriers have the lowest turn rate of any ship. This one has high hull hit points as well. Science vessels (Annorax is a science dreadnought) have low hull and moderate turn rates.
It bears repeating: Sarr Theln is not a science ship. KDF and Romulans have zero T6 science ships (excluding Annorax). Winter and Summer events have still failed to provide a T6 Science ship to these factions.
"Dreadnought" means the little bit about an extra fore weapon slot, flight deck (that not all science ships get), build in weapon (lance), and high hull hit points.
For a (standard) science ship, it actually does have to be maneuverable in order to point towards its target for science abilities as opposed to broadsiding, to keep its defenses high in conjunction with shield tanking, and for quick escapes when all else fails.
At what point did I ever use the words "Science vessel" in my argument? My point was that the OP wanted a "decent Sci ship," Science Vessel was not specifically indicated and at least in my opinion the Sarr Theln fits this description. And it's entirely your opinion about what constitutes a "fully capable" Science ship. Yes, the Sarr Theln isn't a full Science Vessel, but it's more than capable of being used in end-game content with strong Science capabilities and none of the Breen ships have ever really fit into traditional ship configurations.
The universe has a wonderful sense of humor. The trick is learning how to take a joke.
It still doesn't have the Science package, Secondary Deflector, SA, or a good turn rate....there has never been a event based Science ship ever...except the Science Destroyer, which may as well be a Tac ship. Never...not one 100% true Science Vessel...yes we've had multiple Tac and Cruisers...
They had a chance with the Risian set...the consoles and set bonus screamed *SCIENCE* yet instead they gave us a Ferengi ship...a tac Ferengi ship.
They obviously don't want to give us a pure Science ship without being able to make a good profit on it...but we get Cruisers and Escorts left and right because people will eat them up for a 0.001% bonus to performance.