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Unofficial Literary Challenge #17: "STO Thanksgiving".
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"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton,
"Great War"
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Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Interesting trivia, despite the rationale of Thanksgiving being originally a harvest celebration, it actually happens a couple months after harvesttime in Massachusetts.
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I'll see if I can come up with anything, though I still need to finish up my first ULC 15 entry.
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Ael t'Kazanak - Cobie Smulders
Lee Roper - Chase Crawford
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Adam Rivera - Miguel Ángel Silvestre
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Rana As-Saleh - Necar Zadegan
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I know there's other parts that will go into this - but career wise, how does this affect Ael? Is it effectively a demotion or moving to a a smaller effective command at a more prestigious posting?
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Regarding Ael's career... A full answer would give some major spoilers, but it is essentially, how Delta Rising shapes her career... Hugo needed the promotion to have a Phantom-Class, and having a MACO detachment on board to deal with the potential scenarios is only logical. In the eyes of Starfleet Command, this is intended as a temporary sideways transfer, where her skills as a MACO can be most effectively utilized, without her losing actual rank in any way. A scene which I was tempted to close the piece with (but was in too much of a hurry to complete to transcribe) was a log entry while travelling to ESD, where Ael is glad to lose the 'target practice' (her words, not mine) white shoulder-panals of a ship's commander's uniform jacket, for an all black odyssey uniform...
Given that Ael's being assigned to command the MACO contingent aboard an Admiral's flagship, though, the transfer carries some prestige with it - Admiral Danner is saying that Captain t'Kazanak is being trusted with his safety and that of his command. This would probably wind up being very much to her credit, being seen as adding breadth to her command ability (a particularly valuable thing during a time of war, and as I understand it this is taking place either during the Iconian War or the War of the Masters).
Yes, essentially this... She's being given the assignment due to her skills, rather than as a disciplinary sideways transfer, and Command are only intending for it to be a temporary assignment (to say more would give Major spoilers...) And yes, following on from Academy Daze, it's written as Masterverse Compliant, but as the Masterverse hasn't reached that point yet, it was necessary to 'redact' the date for pre-consistency
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@marcusdkane I started to read your entry, and enjoying it so far! Just wondering, is there any kind of Masterverse index/masterpost/blog anything?
Glad you're enjoying the entry I think there might be, but I'll have to scour the forum before I can provide a link...
Additionally, a fleet flagship isn't actually commanded by the admiral, he just has his offices and C&C facilities aboard. He still defers command of the actual ship to the CO, who in turn is sometimes referred to as a "flag captain". (Which is another reason the "everybody's a fleet admiral" thing is stupid: the admiral doesn't need to be splitting his attention between directing the fleet and fighting the ship; you can only pay attention to so many things at a time.)
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That said, Cdr. Redmond also has her fingers in a lot more pies than you would usually expect for someone of her rank (and one gets the feeling Engineering is almost functioning as CIC the way she runs things...she does things ranging from normal engineering to intelligence and electronic warfare, sciency things, and even some things she's...technically not cleared for), so I guess it does sort of balance out when you consider the scope of what each of them is really doing. That and Berat does not have full command of the 77th Fleet as a whole...that's ch'Harrell's role. (And ch'Harrell DOES have a captain under him to run the starbase). Berta's job is to oversee sensitive or major field ops in person.
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I do something kinda similar with RRW Bloodwing. In my reading of Diane Duane, the rank of khre'riov, which is equated to the rank of rear admiral, but directly translates as "commander-general", seems to in practice be the equivalent of a modern-day commodore. The modern US Navy doesn't have a literal rank of commodore anymore, but it's still in use as a ceremonial title for an O-6 put into a role that would normally be filled by an admiral (which is how I rationalized Tom Paris commanding a task force of a half-dozen ships, incidentally). (This is all coming from my dad, a retired USN engineering duty officer.)
So what I did was have Morgan, with the rank of khre'riov, be CO of Bloodwing in most respects. But sometimes, like in Beat the Drums of War, she takes command of a small squadron. In those instances she typically delegates fighting the ship to her titular executive officer, Sarsachen tr'Sauringar, who is ranked a riov (Romulan commander, equivalent to Starfleet captain).
Incidentally, as a carrier (albeit not a full carrier but something more like a destroyer with an aircraft complement), a Vesta-class would probably also have a CAG (also referred to as the "air boss") to handle the fighter group. In a full-size carrier the CAG is likely ranked an O-6 (USN carriers often have three or four O-6s on the senior staff, including the CO, XO, CAG, and often the chief engineer), though on a Vesta he's probably lower-ranked, and may even pull double-duty on the senior staff.
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Watching canon senior guls in action (I take both Macet and Dukat to be such), that's the impression I got...it even explains Gul Dukat's apparent command over the entire Bajoran system as well as "just" Terok Nor.
So I guess for my own work I could always excuse the arrangement as being CDF-influenced. Not a bad idea, actually, and fits with the ethos of the 77th, where we know Cardassian culture has exerted an unusual influence.
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Fleet Admiral - Upper Management (Stays at Starfleet Command/Head Office)
Vice Admiral - Area Manager (Responsible for a handful of ships/shops but rarely engages in day to day store operations)
Commodore - Relief Manager (Covering for a handful of ships/shops but actively fills the role of a store's manager)
Captain - Manager (In charge of the ship/shop)
Commander -Assistant Manager (In charge of the crew/staff)
Lt. Commander - Key Holder (Department head/has opening and closing duties)
Lieutenant - Till Supervisor (Department specialist who supervises junior officers/Assists till staff)
Lieutenant jg - Till Staff (Functional Officer/Directly customer dealing)
Ensign - Saturday Staff (Learning the ropes/Part-timer who sometimes gets called on to fill unanticipated absences)
Enlisted Crew - Cleaners (Whatever the role requires...)
Given that a player can have several ships, the Vice-Admiral rank makes sense in terms of scope, just not in terms of speed of attaining said rank
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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