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Paris terror attacks: Vive la France. The world is with you.

bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
my heartfelt sympathy to the family's and friends of those that were injured or died in the terror attacks in Paris and for the French nation in the wake of this abomination.
they all have my deepest sympathy, we all stand united in the face of the horror of these monsters who are out to shatter our way of life.

When I think about everything we've been through together,

maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,

 and if that journey takes a little longer,

so we can do something we all believe in,

 I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.

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    daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    Ummm... I'm not so sure They want this particular subject discussed here in these forums.
    The very same type of thread started by Trendy, Friday evening, was closed.
    Unfortunately, these type of discussions end up being more political than anything else and that's taboo around here.

    (also, this is a Ten Forward kinda thing anyway)
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    bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    daveyny wrote: »
    Ummm... I'm not so sure They want this particular subject discussed here in these forums.
    The very same thread started by Trendy, Friday evening was closed.

    (also, this is a Ten Forward kinda thing anyway)

    so are you telling me that people can come on this forum and offer sympathy on the death of famous people who have nothing whatsoever to do with star trek but I cannot use this forum to send my thoughts and sympathy to the French nation in the wake of this tragedy.
    also being as I have see no threads on ten forward or here I thought I would post this.
    they may close this thread but I have got my message out there and that is good enough.

    When I think about everything we've been through together,

    maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,

     and if that journey takes a little longer,

    so we can do something we all believe in,

     I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.

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    daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    daveyny wrote: »
    Ummm... I'm not so sure They want this particular subject discussed here in these forums.
    The very same thread started by Trendy, Friday evening was closed.

    (also, this is a Ten Forward kinda thing anyway)

    so are you telling me that people can come on this forum and offer sympathy on the death of famous people who have nothing whatsoever to do with star trek but I cannot use this forum to send my thoughts and sympathy to the French nation in the wake of this tragedy.

    Apparently not...
    As I said, Trendy started the exact same kind of thread and it was closed without so much as a 'how-do-you-do'.
    It doesn't even show who closed it.
    That kind of Mod action around here, sends a definite message of "Not Allowed".

    Here's the thread in question if you wish to see for yourself.
    http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline/#/discussion/1207558/france/p1
    I even posted in it.
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    bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    I would think that as this is the kind of thing that goes against everything that star trek stands for this would have been a worthy thread for this forum.

    When I think about everything we've been through together,

    maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,

     and if that journey takes a little longer,

    so we can do something we all believe in,

     I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.

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    daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    I would think that as this is the kind of thing that goes against everything that star trek stand for this would have been a worthy thread for this forum.

    I agree whole heartedly, but as I said, since it is more about a political situation, it is not something They apparently wish to have discussed here.
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    bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    daveyny wrote: »
    I would think that as this is the kind of thing that goes against everything that star trek stand for this would have been a worthy thread for this forum.

    I agree whole heartedly, but as I said, since it is more about a political situation, it is not something They apparently wish to have discussed here.

    this is not a political discussion but just a message of sympathy to a grieving nation.

    I am pretty sure if a similar thread was raised in the wake of the 9/11 attack it would not be taken down.

    When I think about everything we've been through together,

    maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,

     and if that journey takes a little longer,

    so we can do something we all believe in,

     I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.

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    officerbatman81officerbatman81 Member Posts: 2,761 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    Its going to quickly turn political. Just got done reading the closed Trendy thread then just saw this one i thought, Oh No trouble brewing.

    Edit: Should have said originally....In before the lock.
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    bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    Its going to quickly turn political. Just got done reading the closed Trendy thread then just saw this one i thought, Oh No trouble brewing.

    I am just shocked that no other posters have made a comment along the lines of my opening post but only to tell me I should not have started this thread.

    When I think about everything we've been through together,

    maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,

     and if that journey takes a little longer,

    so we can do something we all believe in,

     I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.

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    daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    Its going to quickly turn political. Just got done reading the closed Trendy thread then just saw this one i thought, Oh No trouble brewing.

    I am just shocked that no other posters have made a comment along the lines of my opening post but only to tell me I should not have started this thread.

    There was about a 24 hour window in which you could have expressed your sympathy's in the previous thread.

    That window is now apparently closed.

    You've still managed to say what you want.
    Perhaps now would be a good time to let it go.
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    samt1996samt1996 Member Posts: 2,856 Arc User
    Ten forward.

    While an unfortunate event, the world powers have nobody to blame but their own spinelessness. You don't get pissed off when a dog bites you, you train it or shoot it.
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    questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,320 Arc User
    Its going to quickly turn political. Just got done reading the closed Trendy thread then just saw this one i thought, Oh No trouble brewing.

    Yeah, also made a comment last night in regards to Russia which i would have removed had the topic still been opened.
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    flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    My condolences to the Paris Attack victims, but I am curious as to how many people are aware that it wasn't just Paris that was attacked? Seems the media are only talking about Paris. Either way, it's a tragic event, and one that I'm sure we've not seen the last of. What irritates me more than anything though is all the people that are quick to place the blame on Islam/Muslims as if it's their collective fault.

    Never quite understood the whole suicide bombing thing either, I understand terrorism, sure as hell don't support it, but I understand it's being. Suicide bombing though? That's just the result of a naive little mind being brainwashed to do the dirty work of someone else who is too... sensible(?) to do it themselves. There's no purpose to it. The would-be attackers can't even gloat about it afterwards, cause they're a crispy corpse. It's madness, all for the sake of some twisted translation of some religious text?

    France seems to have got a lot recently too, and this was somewhat foretold. People kept saying that if we (Europe) take in all these refugees, some of them will turn out to be ISIS, and here we are after the result of an ISIS attack. Anyway, without turning this into politics or religion, my condolences to all those affected yesterday, both in Paris and elsewhere. Hopefully those who have the power will act more on it, and one day terrorism will be a distant memory.
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    deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    Sigh.

    This will be locked. It's political.

    Talking about the deaths of actors is entertainment, not politics.

    This kind of thread will draw the socialists who will ask "Why wasn't Kenya discussed or Beirut, which just happened shortly before Paris.' then we'd get into a discussion on how racist people are... due to the lack of discussion of a hundred black or arab people killed... and the outpouring of grief on the death of 100 white people.

    Then it'd get nasty as you got one group of people trying to prevent it peacefully (the federation way) and one group of people wanting revenge (the klingon way).

    then religion comes in.


    then threats are made

    then the cops come check this out.

    in the end, a lot of butthurt feelings.


    So yeah, that's why we don't discuss realworld politics here. We do discuss star trek politics, technological politics... generally in ten forward. In other words, we try to obey the prime directive here.
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    rickdankorickdanko Member Posts: 470 Arc User
    If the OP really was all about solidarity with France, then why make a big stink about the appropriate place for the thread? Just post it in Ten Forward. My guess is most people stand with France against terrorism anyway.

    By the way, everyone has their own ideas about "what Star Trek stands for", and since it's an opinion, all are equally valid.

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    dsarisdsaris Member Posts: 369 Arc User
    Politics has little to do with it. We've got a certain group of people, following the teachings of a certain religion, who think it's somehow OK to just go out and kill anyone who doesn't share their particular POV. We've got governments of developed "free" nations all around the world that don't seem particularly upset by this religion or the actions of its followers. When you don't act to protect your lands or your people attacks are what you get.

    I do have sympathy for the families of the victims of the Paris attacks. I also have sympathy for the innocents that will be killed in the days to come when the Western world finally gets its act together and realizes that we are in a de-facto state of war with a foreign enemy that will either see the entire world converted to its way of thinking or destroyed in the process.

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    chastity1337chastity1337 Member Posts: 1,606 Arc User

    It took a decade, but one night Americans went into Osama bin Laden's house and shot him to death with their guns, and then took his body away and threw it into the ocean.

    And here is someone naive who believes the pablum spoon-fed to him by the Main Stream Media, right on time, with the predictably political comment.

    There are no words...

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    chastity1337chastity1337 Member Posts: 1,606 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    removed on second thought
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    samt1996samt1996 Member Posts: 2,856 Arc User
    That second thought as the only good one you've had yet.
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    thegrandnagus1thegrandnagus1 Member Posts: 5,165 Arc User
    I would think that as this is the kind of thing that goes against everything that star trek stands for this would have been a worthy thread for this forum.

    Here is what you do not seem to understand: this specific board is for discussion about this specific game, Star Trek Online. Not even general Trek discussion. So even based on your above statement about the spirit of Trek, this would go on the Ten Forward board, because that is a general Trek/off topic board. But this specific board is for discussing this specific game, not general Trek, and certainly not RL topics.

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    thegalaxy31thegalaxy31 Member Posts: 1,211 Arc User
    Talking about a possible flame war starts a flame war. *Applause* No one even needs to make it political.
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    kjwashingtonkjwashington Member Posts: 2,529 Arc User
    Its going to quickly turn political. Just got done reading the closed Trendy thread then just saw this one i thought, Oh No trouble brewing.

    Edit: Should have said originally....In before the lock.
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    Agreed. This will certainly turn political and be closed. Don't worry, my sig has that second part covered.

    That said, my heart also goes out to the French people.
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    deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    the OP made it political.

    I would lock this thread and move it to ten forward, if I was a mod. But mods are off for the weekend so....

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    imadude3imadude3 Member Posts: 825 Arc User
    i will mourn for the dead too, but can we all agree to also mourn for the 80 people that died in an ISIS attack in Beirut? the attack on Paris and Beirut happened only 12 hours apart, but i never see any mentions of Beirut, but i for one will make sure to mourn for them too.
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    daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    The only Terrorist I don't have a problem with...

    https://youtu.be/qM3fSEu2FmM

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    vivenneanthonyvivenneanthony Member Posts: 1,278 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    Suicide bombing makes no sense. I would make no pro active steps to kill myself while devastating other people lives while taking another life.

    It really serves no cause. I think its a act of desperation or no hope for the future. Ironically its one of the problem with STO kill fest.
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