No. I am happy with getting more PvE queues and new reputations to grind. I'd rather the devs not make additions that would detract from how they've progressed this game over the past 5 years.
The only way to fix PvP is to rebalance all the DPS in the game so it's not geared for Uber-HP NPC's and to make spawn sites uncampable. These are the two main reasons why PvP is non-existant.
As for exploration, well they would need to spend more than a year to provide more than enough exploration content to keep people satisfied for more than 3 months. You're looking at designing potentially a couple of hundred worlds, hundreds of systems, and god knows how many random encounter, science, war (and so on) missions. They couldn't do this in a year. They would need a seperate team for this so as to keep content coming in as normal.
"You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
I think a year without adding premium stuff is a great idea. gives the Dev's plenty of time to polish the game make the story of the game better and open up a lot if not all the systems we can visit such as the new Cardassian world, Betazid, Trill, and so on. when this has begin to open up, lots and lots of new story will be added to the game. think about it. we might get to see how the Iconian's are doing on their home world. watching them rebuild after hundreds of thousands of year without their home. it will be like New Romulas with new challenges to face to help solidify our new peace with Iconia.
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I would vote yes if PVP wasn't a part of the equation.
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
No. I am happy with getting more PvE queues and new reputations to grind. I'd rather the devs not make additions that would detract from how they've progressed this game over the past 5 years.
What I love about these threads is that they have no idea how much time and effort would really be required to do what they ask if it's even possible. They also seem to think thirty players represents the two million registered accounts.
Yes. I would give up on said things knowing that it would mean less grinding for a year and maybe fewer episodes for exploration and maybe meaningful PvP if it isn't just about death to all. (Note that for those with more than one toon it would give you more time to catch up with those toons if you didn't have to work on your main for a few months).
Yes Id give that up for a solid new exploration system....
No I wouldnt give that up for ANY pvpeen updates
Yes. I would give up on said things knowing that it would mean less grinding for a year and maybe fewer episodes for exploration and maybe meaningful PvP if it isn't just about death to all. (Note that for those with more than one toon it would give you more time to catch up with those toons if you didn't have to work on your main for a few months).
Yes. But... It would kill the game and kill game revenues. There would have to be events to maintain a revenue stream. But I would not want some sort of open PvP exploration environment unless it was VERY well thought out in order to minimize or eliminate exploitation for easy kills.
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On a side note, my understanding (which is likely incomplete, mind you) is that they have worked on a new exploration system in the past and they might work on it again in the future. But they got a little stuck on the last attempt, and it's low-priority at the moment.
I have no corresponding information on PvP, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if somebody is quietly tinkering with it in the background. There are a great many things developers do that they never talk about, because they get torn apart by an angry mob if they talk about something and then it is changed, delayed or abandoned.
No. I am happy with getting more PvE queues and new reputations to grind. I'd rather the devs not make additions that would detract from how they've progressed this game over the past 5 years.
As far as wanting more answers goes, there's always "Maybe." Even in the real polls you see reported in the news, there's always "Undecided."
Because when you're asked who you're going to vote for in an election, "I haven't decided yet" is a meaningful answer. But when you're asked if you'd like a cup of coffee, "maybe" is no better than not answering at all.
Just a reply to some of the statements being made.
In the priority one interview released recently @borticuscryptic stated that PvP has not had anything developed for it recently and will not have anything done to it in the near future due to it being "too late to do anything about it without involving a large part of the team" which would take too much time away from new PvE, episodes and so on (it's a shame in my opinion because it's been 5 years of nothing but PvE and nothing for PvP. My opinion is, and I accept others feel differently even though I agree with said others that currently it's a punishing system exploited by unsavoury members of the community, that if it was balanced and had decent rewards it wouldn't need a lot to get it off the ground as there are no voiceovers and story development and so on and cheaper to do. It can also be done without affecting PvE (been proven in other MMOs).
He mentioned the exploration system and that they have an idea in mind but it shares the same problem as PvP in that it would take too much time to design, build and implement. It would cut into the time they allocate for new episodes, new ships, new rep and new gear.
I agree with many here in the sense that if PWE properly invested in the game and expanded the team of devs, content designers, system designers, etc. they would be able to achieve much more.
Regarding the comments about this poll not having the correct/necessary "options", the question is basically this: 'if the devs said this was the choice you got, which of the two would you choose?' That is what I'm trying to simulate.
To those who are assuming it'd be the old exploration system, I think it goes without saying that it'd be a new system (the devs have stated this a few times).
The open PvP would also be unlikely without an 'on/off' button.
Thank you again for the comments I appreciate all of your opinions... Except for one so far, but I respect the right they have to express it.
No. I am happy with getting more PvE queues and new reputations to grind. I'd rather the devs not make additions that would detract from how they've progressed this game over the past 5 years.
The question is flawed as this is not how this works.
I would like to see a open-ended exploration system for quasi unlimited longevity of the game, yes. If they would hypothetically anounce it will take a year of maintenance mode I would however probably take a leave as well and return in a year, I would not continue to log in with the knowledge of playing the same mission over and over again. But as I said, this scenario makes little sense to begin with.
While it would be something amazing to have I have to agree that a year isn't much time to pull it off. Think of it this way, the old exploration system wasn't much to write home about in the first place, kill five mobs or scan five things was basically the whole deal. It didn't matter what species was on the planet you had to kill or what object you had to scan, it was the same thing over and over again. The developers, if they were serious about making a new exploration system, would have to improve on that scenario by alot. They would have to make new worlds, species, and missions both in space and on a planet.
That's going to take alot of time, resources and investment to do that and the powers that be are just looking for the bottom line... $$$. If it looks like that investment has no payoff then heads will roll. They would be gambling that doing something different from the formula that has netted them alot of cash would work even better. I'm not saying flat out it wouldn't work but to do it on a grand scale where the players aren't bored after playing for three months at exploration would require a huge undertaking.
Hell, I suggested a while back if they could revamp ONE existing world and the feedback was just as varied as this! I hope one day they can have the resources they need to make things like exploration become what it's supposed to be, but I am not holding my breath for it.
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No. I am happy with getting more PvE queues and new reputations to grind. I'd rather the devs not make additions that would detract from how they've progressed this game over the past 5 years.
Voting "no" just for the extremely loaded question. This isn't a poll but an opinion statement.
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Yes. I would give up on said things knowing that it would mean less grinding for a year and maybe fewer episodes for exploration and maybe meaningful PvP if it isn't just about death to all. (Note that for those with more than one toon it would give you more time to catch up with those toons if you didn't have to work on your main for a few months).
What I love about these threads is that they have no idea how much time and effort would really be required to do what they ask if it's even possible. They also seem to think thirty players represents the two million registered accounts.
Yep, another day on the Internet.
like anything on this forum its just a discussion, we all know that the chance of anything like this ever happening is remote to put it mildly, we also realise what a mammoth task this would be to make this happen.
at the end of the day I doubt the devs take any notice of 90% of the ideas that are raised on the forum and for that matter most of the forum users will not even look at this thread let alone vote on it but it doesn't hurt to have these discussions no matter if other players don't agree with them or don't even read them.
I have disagreed myself with many suggestions on this forum and even pointed out that the devs would never make changes that have been proposed but that doesn't mean others cant have hopes or ideas and raise them here.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
No. I am happy with getting more PvE queues and new reputations to grind. I'd rather the devs not make additions that would detract from how they've progressed this game over the past 5 years.
I simply vote for No.
There is a reason why Cryptic is releasing ships, reputation grinds and new missions together each year - without it, they will lose too many people purchasing stuff. Just releasing the ships is not enough, because people have no reason to play, and if you don't play, you don't need new ships.
Any exploration system must be made while the regular work continues.
I don't know how the expansions were financed and planned - maybe the team got additional resources for them, since it was expected that the expansion itself would generate value.
But ultimately, while procedurally generated content might be nice, it would need to be way more than just some fancy maps. It would need to come with a semblance of story-line, and I have yet see any game providing that.
It's not enough to have a map with some anomalies on it. I want to meet aliens that have their own issues and want to learn about them and possibly help them resolve them. I want to meet god-like aliens that question my moral and ethical beliefs or commitment*. I want my ship or crew to be taken over by alien invaders and outwit them to get them out.
Maybe someone can create a content generation system that could create such stories. but I doubt it.
So I am happy with Cryptic providing me tailored content.
(*I want of all of that only in game. Please, god-like aliens, don't bother me in real life.)
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at the end of the day I doubt the devs take any notice of 90% of the ideas that are raised on the forum...
I can't speak to the way Cryptic runs things, but I worked as a forum mod for another company and every day we would read EVERYTHING, summarize/quote the most active threads and what (in our judgment) were popular and/or interesting ideas, and wrap it up into a nice tidy report for the Dev Team.
A developer on the forums is either donating his own free/down time, or is using work hours for something other than developing. A certain amount of that is healthy, but beyond that point you absolutely need good community service people to buffer for the creatives so they have time to create.
Bottom line is that a developer has a thousands (or millions)-to-one relationship with players. That makes it impossible to respond to every individual player, but that doesn't mean they're not being heard, at least in summary -- and players who are providing concise, evidence-based, creative, positive and well-written ideas and feedback have a chance of influencing the direction of the game, and from time to time even getting a job (which is how I became a forum mod).
It also means that even if I get a little bit snarky with Devs, which I do sometimes, I understand and appreciate the time they take to talk to us. That's as close as I'm getting to an apology, Taco.
No. I am happy with getting more PvE queues and new reputations to grind. I'd rather the devs not make additions that would detract from how they've progressed this game over the past 5 years.
Even if this was possible you forget that the devs are under the authority of the investors and they dont care about fun but about "moola"
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As for exploration, well they would need to spend more than a year to provide more than enough exploration content to keep people satisfied for more than 3 months. You're looking at designing potentially a couple of hundred worlds, hundreds of systems, and god knows how many random encounter, science, war (and so on) missions. They couldn't do this in a year. They would need a seperate team for this so as to keep content coming in as normal.
"He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
Yep, another day on the Internet.
No I wouldnt give that up for ANY pvpeen updates
But I would not want some sort of open PvP exploration environment unless it was VERY well thought out in order to minimize or eliminate exploitation for easy kills.
I have no corresponding information on PvP, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if somebody is quietly tinkering with it in the background. There are a great many things developers do that they never talk about, because they get torn apart by an angry mob if they talk about something and then it is changed, delayed or abandoned.
Because when you're asked who you're going to vote for in an election, "I haven't decided yet" is a meaningful answer. But when you're asked if you'd like a cup of coffee, "maybe" is no better than not answering at all.
In the priority one interview released recently @borticuscryptic stated that PvP has not had anything developed for it recently and will not have anything done to it in the near future due to it being "too late to do anything about it without involving a large part of the team" which would take too much time away from new PvE, episodes and so on (it's a shame in my opinion because it's been 5 years of nothing but PvE and nothing for PvP. My opinion is, and I accept others feel differently even though I agree with said others that currently it's a punishing system exploited by unsavoury members of the community, that if it was balanced and had decent rewards it wouldn't need a lot to get it off the ground as there are no voiceovers and story development and so on and cheaper to do. It can also be done without affecting PvE (been proven in other MMOs).
He mentioned the exploration system and that they have an idea in mind but it shares the same problem as PvP in that it would take too much time to design, build and implement. It would cut into the time they allocate for new episodes, new ships, new rep and new gear.
I agree with many here in the sense that if PWE properly invested in the game and expanded the team of devs, content designers, system designers, etc. they would be able to achieve much more.
Regarding the comments about this poll not having the correct/necessary "options", the question is basically this: 'if the devs said this was the choice you got, which of the two would you choose?'
That is what I'm trying to simulate.
To those who are assuming it'd be the old exploration system, I think it goes without saying that it'd be a new system (the devs have stated this a few times).
The open PvP would also be unlikely without an 'on/off' button.
Thank you again for the comments I appreciate all of your opinions... Except for one so far, but I respect the right they have to express it.
Sorry for the long post.
Seriously... not gonna happen.
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That's going to take alot of time, resources and investment to do that and the powers that be are just looking for the bottom line... $$$. If it looks like that investment has no payoff then heads will roll. They would be gambling that doing something different from the formula that has netted them alot of cash would work even better. I'm not saying flat out it wouldn't work but to do it on a grand scale where the players aren't bored after playing for three months at exploration would require a huge undertaking.
Hell, I suggested a while back if they could revamp ONE existing world and the feedback was just as varied as this! I hope one day they can have the resources they need to make things like exploration become what it's supposed to be, but I am not holding my breath for it.
like anything on this forum its just a discussion, we all know that the chance of anything like this ever happening is remote to put it mildly, we also realise what a mammoth task this would be to make this happen.
at the end of the day I doubt the devs take any notice of 90% of the ideas that are raised on the forum and for that matter most of the forum users will not even look at this thread let alone vote on it but it doesn't hurt to have these discussions no matter if other players don't agree with them or don't even read them.
I have disagreed myself with many suggestions on this forum and even pointed out that the devs would never make changes that have been proposed but that doesn't mean others cant have hopes or ideas and raise them here.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
There is a reason why Cryptic is releasing ships, reputation grinds and new missions together each year - without it, they will lose too many people purchasing stuff. Just releasing the ships is not enough, because people have no reason to play, and if you don't play, you don't need new ships.
Any exploration system must be made while the regular work continues.
I don't know how the expansions were financed and planned - maybe the team got additional resources for them, since it was expected that the expansion itself would generate value.
But ultimately, while procedurally generated content might be nice, it would need to be way more than just some fancy maps. It would need to come with a semblance of story-line, and I have yet see any game providing that.
It's not enough to have a map with some anomalies on it. I want to meet aliens that have their own issues and want to learn about them and possibly help them resolve them. I want to meet god-like aliens that question my moral and ethical beliefs or commitment*. I want my ship or crew to be taken over by alien invaders and outwit them to get them out.
Maybe someone can create a content generation system that could create such stories. but I doubt it.
So I am happy with Cryptic providing me tailored content.
(*I want of all of that only in game. Please, god-like aliens, don't bother me in real life.)
I can't speak to the way Cryptic runs things, but I worked as a forum mod for another company and every day we would read EVERYTHING, summarize/quote the most active threads and what (in our judgment) were popular and/or interesting ideas, and wrap it up into a nice tidy report for the Dev Team.
A developer on the forums is either donating his own free/down time, or is using work hours for something other than developing. A certain amount of that is healthy, but beyond that point you absolutely need good community service people to buffer for the creatives so they have time to create.
Bottom line is that a developer has a thousands (or millions)-to-one relationship with players. That makes it impossible to respond to every individual player, but that doesn't mean they're not being heard, at least in summary -- and players who are providing concise, evidence-based, creative, positive and well-written ideas and feedback have a chance of influencing the direction of the game, and from time to time even getting a job (which is how I became a forum mod).
It also means that even if I get a little bit snarky with Devs, which I do sometimes, I understand and appreciate the time they take to talk to us. That's as close as I'm getting to an apology, Taco.
Most unexpectedly, this turned into a flame-fest! Closed it goes!. /sigh What flamefestery is this? pwlaughingtrendy