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[VIDEO/REVIEW] Shaking down the Herald Ships
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My latest ship review video of Herald Vonph Dreadnought Carrier [T6]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4JybV47qUU
00:14 Introduction
02:00 Ship Stats and Build
08:36 Shield Visuals
11:28 PvE Run: FFA
16:19 PvE Run: ISN
19:00 Final Thoughts and Verdict
Also check out my review of the Herald Baltim Heavy Raider [T6]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F56yb31nzCw
0:11 Introduction
2:08 Ship Stats, Gear and Build
9:57 Shield Visuals
12:47 PvE Run: Tholian Red Alert
15:22 PvE Run: Gorn Mine Field
21:41 Conclusion/Final Verdict
Enjoy! Did you find these videos informative?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4JybV47qUU00:14 Introduction
02:00 Ship Stats and Build
08:36 Shield Visuals
11:28 PvE Run: FFA
16:19 PvE Run: ISN
19:00 Final Thoughts and Verdict
Also check out my review of the Herald Baltim Heavy Raider [T6]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F56yb31nzCw0:11 Introduction
2:08 Ship Stats, Gear and Build
9:57 Shield Visuals
12:47 PvE Run: Tholian Red Alert
15:22 PvE Run: Gorn Mine Field
21:41 Conclusion/Final Verdict
Enjoy! Did you find these videos informative?
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Quas price is 150mil~ (1/250 drop rate) and if Vonph drop rate is 1/400~... fair price is 250~ mil.
And this is not limited time ship... lockbox ship for 900+ mil, srsly lol...
The only one I've seen saying 1/750 also said that that number was more of a "gut feeling" based on how many messages were flashing across the screen. The 1/400 number was based on some people opening 4000 or so lockboxes. Still not enough IMO for a truly accurate number but it's the best I've seen to date. Those same people are saying the Quas was dropping at 1/160 which is better than the typical lockboxes.
Will you be doing one for the Quas as well?
I disagree on the handling of the ship. In general, with few exceptions, 2-hangar Carriers in the game move like pigs. I never had the Narcine but across several characters, I own and have used all the other 2-hangar Carriers in both PVE and PVP (way back in the day). Atrox, JHDC, Vo'Quv, Kar'Fi, Advanced Obelisk, Sarr Theln, Recluse... All but the Narcine. In general, they are all sluggish ships. I absolutely loved my JHDC and Vo'Quv for PVP long ago. But you needed careful maneuvering if you didn't want to slide yourself out of combat. Most of these Carriers, you miss your turn or you start decelerating for that turn too late, you'll miss your point and you'll be sliding past where you intended to be. Most Carriers, I rarely flew at 3/4 or full throttle. I typically sat at 1/2 throttle or at times even 1/4 during combat. If you build for beamboating then sure, you can go faster with higher throttles. Even then you had to monitor your speed and how wide your flying patterns are because even with beamboating in a Carrier, you can still wander too far off. Vonph is nothing special, nothing worse in this regard. Sluggish handling is simply just a fact of life in Carrier play. Kar'Fi and Narcine are the only 2 that buck this trend.
As for the Baltim Raider Frigates, can't comment on their poerformance myself, I did not go for them. But slow traveling Hangar Units are a general fact of life in this game. You either fast travel to the next hot spot for combat and let your hangar units slowly catch up, or you take the time and recover all of them before heading to the next distant spot for combat. But that takes time.
Size... The ship is damn huge. It reminds me of the Elachi Monbosh in terms of it's mask-like shape, how it takes up the screen by spreading across from the center, but it goes even further than that.
On a related note to its size and shape, sometimes it's hard to tell what the exact pitch is your ship is pointing at (up, down) if you don't have a side view. The shape of the ship makes it confusing at times, at least it did for me.
Cost... I see it go now in the 900m or so EC range. The last ship I recall going for that much was very long ago for the very rare Bulwarks. Even then, I recall them going 800m. The other thing with cost is if you want the full herald ship console set. Last I saw the Quas and Baltim were going roughly 160m EC each. Baltim alternatively can be attained by 900 Lobi. For a full ship specific console set, that is expensive but not ground breaking. Dominion ship console set did the same, expensive route.
Side note on the full Herald Console Set: It's a Particle Generator / Exotic Damage set. To make the most of that, you naturally need high Particle Generator Skill total and all the things necessary to make these science heavy builds excel. But a Vonph is a Cmdr TAC, 7 weapon ship with a 3/4/4 console layout and not a SCI heavy ship like Atrox, Vo'Quv. PGen builds are demanding on console slots to make them worthwhile and that can be a dilemma for the Vonph because in its heart, it wants to be a more traditional TAC Carrier like JHDC. To top it off, to play with the full set it takes 3 console slots to make it even harder to make it effective.
Or you could say, "TRIBBLE it." If you play without the consoles, then you got tons, tons more build freedom with a 7 weapon, TAC Cmdr Carrier having 4 TAC, 4 SCI Console slots.
Unfortunately, even with the assistance of Rahmi; my ship budget is wiped out. So I currently don't have any plans to review the Quas sadly.
I do however accept ship as donations for the purpose of doing ship reviews.
The point was that most of the recent ship releases are out performing the Vonph, even T5 ships like the Narcine are out performing it in multiple areas.
Lower performance curve and it's not actually a rare Limited Time promotion ship != 900m-1b ship.
I advise people, if you value my opinion on ships, not to spend more than 300m for the Vonph. It's not worth it.
About the 3 herald consoles, the Quas is probably the only ship in the group that can run all 3 consoles without sacrificing anything.
yeah, i literally slapped on whatever i had in order to push the video out as fast as possible.
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Quas has a drop rate of ~1/160. which is about the same as a T5/Mirror ship booby prize.
eh??? Looking at the info that's on the wiki, the mirror ships were around 2.5% which would be 1/40. There was a thread about the YoH LB and the Nyhidron was around 1.7% (4000 boxes opened) or 1/60. So the Quas is better than what the grand prize was in previous lock boxes but far worse than the old boobie prize.
You should try a Narcine, it's very nice. The thing moves like a Battle Cruiser, and has some really fun options like using the Lt. Comm Uni as Sci for Gravity Well and DRB. It's my favorite, above the JHDC, Kar'fi, Sarr Theln, Vo'quv and Obelisk carriers that I've flown.
This was multiple people opening 4000+ lockboxes each. That is in the tens of thousands of boxes being opened, that's a pretty good sample size. The Vonph isn't quite as rare as people seem to believe and the only reason why the price is skyrocketing is because it's only being sold off market and being a hot item. If the EC cap were raised so that these ships could be placed on the Exchange, the price would likely drop.