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shrimphead2015shrimphead2015 Member Posts: 536 Arc User
I don't know how many among you have played The Matrix Online as it was an old MMO that has sadly been discontinued but there was something from that erstwhile game that had me thinking about sto.

The developers of that game frequently made use of the characters from the movie that were normally NPC's, so in effect you could actually talk with Morpheus, The Merovingian, The Architect, etc, etc.. They would sometimes hand out prizes, direct you with clues to solve a story line mission, or even host a party. It was alot of fun to say the least and it had to have been one of the most memorable parts of the game.

Now with Star Trek Online I am aware that there is one more than one instance of the game so developers would have to be selective of the time and place to do something similar but the scenario (or one possible one) was something along the lines of an invasion, for example.

The player ships in orbit around Nimbus 3 find that they cannot warp out, A Starfleet (or Klingon, or Romulan, depending on what character you are using) symbol appears on your screen with a warning that four (more or less) Borg tactical cubes are arriving for the assimilation of the planet below and you have only 1 minute to prepare. After the minute the tactical cubes appear and each one is operated by a dev (or whoever in Cryptic that wants to play along I guess). Each ship is more powerful than anything that we as players have faced in stf's or missions, and they can launch probes and spheres much in the same way we launch carrier pets. The goal would be to work together as a team and even then it would be a hard fought battle but the goal would be to make sure enough of the players are still alive to be awarded some prize. So in essence the more players alive, the better the prize to inspire the group of players to work as a team.

I think something like this scenario could be alot of fun for everybody, including the devs. Mind you it doesn't have to be Borg or a space mission, just something that is new and different from the usual grind. Anyway just an idea.
"There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see, and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. The words of Ten Bears carries the same iron of life and death. It is good that warriors such as we meet in the struggle of life... or death. It shall be life." - Ten Bears (Will Sampson)

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  • mackbolan01mackbolan01 Member Posts: 580 Arc User
    would be cheaper for cryptic to just hire some1 to play all day, this way the dev can WORK on the game........duh !!!!​​
  • shrimphead2015shrimphead2015 Member Posts: 536 Arc User
    I think it's been explained for some time now that not all developers are responsible for game bug fixes. Some are for mission/ship/character creation. My idea was really for the sole purpose of having an event that would be fun for both the developers and players. The scenario I described in the original post was just an example of a possible mission, they could go along those lines or do something completely different mission wise.
    "There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see, and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. The words of Ten Bears carries the same iron of life and death. It is good that warriors such as we meet in the struggle of life... or death. It shall be life." - Ten Bears (Will Sampson)
  • crabbycabbycrabbycabby Member Posts: 127 Arc User
    OP: As to the first part of your suggestion (talking to NPC's that are Dev's) ithink that might work as a part time means for a Dev to do "Live Interview's" or to leave prepared info releases.

    As for the second part, what does an attack on "random planet of the day" have to do with the first part?

    Might work as a Fed vs Klingon vs Romulan style of STF, where the players would be in both the attacking and defending ships. Would be sort of like PvP, just different back story.​​
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  • shrimphead2015shrimphead2015 Member Posts: 536 Arc User
    OP: As to the first part of your suggestion (talking to NPC's that are Dev's) ithink that might work as a part time means for a Dev to do "Live Interview's" or to leave prepared info releases.

    As for the second part, what does an attack on "random planet of the day" have to do with the first part?
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    The second part was just an example of a possible scenario that could play out. It could be something like a random attack where the developers get to have some fun taking on the player base (and maybe with that introducing something we might see in the future) or it could be just some developer posing as a Klingon General, or a Federation Admiral, or a Romulan Commander, etc etc that could give us a special mission or news of an upcoming event or even to hand out some prizes, whatever they wish. To me the possibilities would be endless and I think alot of fun for both parties. It's just examples and not in anyway something I would set in stone as "the event" , just something everyone could have fun with.


    "There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see, and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. The words of Ten Bears carries the same iron of life and death. It is good that warriors such as we meet in the struggle of life... or death. It shall be life." - Ten Bears (Will Sampson)
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  • taylor1701dtaylor1701d Member Posts: 3,099 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    You know, I wouldn't mind seeing more devs in game.
    I see Trendy takes the time to come field some questions upon new releases.
    (Feel bad for her though, with the never ending stream of questions though). But she's good enough to do it, and people are generally happy to see her.

    You're idea of Dev piloted ships for certain events would be a great way for the Devs who don't play much, to come around and get a feel for game mechanics (state of power creep, etc), and form a tighter bond with the player base.

    They could even have random devs come on and do trivia once in a while for prizes etc.
    Though with this community, they'd probably get flak for not giving everyone a special toy.

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  • shrimphead2015shrimphead2015 Member Posts: 536 Arc User
    Because reasons. Lame.

    In the interest of efficiency I just trimmed down the quote to what captures the general idea you felt about this ... "Lame" lol . It's cool though and I don't expect everyone to fall in love with the possible scenario I wrote in. As I said earlier it's just an example of a possible scenario not something set in stone and certainly nothing to be treated as the by all, end all of an event.

    I am sure you have ideas on a scenario for a game event more to your liking and would love to hear it.

    "There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see, and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. The words of Ten Bears carries the same iron of life and death. It is good that warriors such as we meet in the struggle of life... or death. It shall be life." - Ten Bears (Will Sampson)
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  • taylor1701dtaylor1701d Member Posts: 3,099 Arc User
    Do you see now why your idea isn't just lame, but incredibly stupid?

    It really isn't a bad idea, maybe the OP cubes would be over the top, but I wouldn't mind seeing more devs get into the game, and try queues and what not with the players.

    It's nice when they come field some questions on ESD. But I wouldn't mind seeing them get more proactive in regards to participating with players in new content at least.





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  • grtiggygrtiggy Member Posts: 444 Arc User
    Devs in Eve online take part in story based events all the time and it works out incredibly well with great stories with the players getting involved in them so i say "make it so" XD
  • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    I watched a live stream where one of the cryptic team was in the game and occasionally handing out prizes to whoever was there, once everyone was aware of the instance they were in all the players used to try and get in and once it was at max capacity the lag was atrocious.

    if they did something like you suggest it would basically become like lag city and become totally unplayable.
    players who could not get in would complain like hell that they were always being left out of the prize giving and if they restricted the number of players further to get over the lag even more would be complaining.
    then you would have other players complaining that it was an annoying intrusion for this to happen were they were trying to role-play or some such like they do when players release disco bombs.
    I can see it being more trouble then its worth.

    besides, I think cryptic does quite enough giving away of free stuff as it is anyway and when you think of it enough players complain they miss out on that as it is and that's going for a whole day (sometimes longer) not just for the short time something like this would take and it's server wide, not restricted to one instance.

    When I think about everything we've been through together,

    maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,

     and if that journey takes a little longer,

    so we can do something we all believe in,

     I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.

  • shrimphead2015shrimphead2015 Member Posts: 536 Arc User
    I do appreciate the feedback as it is the sole purpose to what the forums is about (at least in my opinion). The whole purpose was to give an idea of having the devs participate with the gaming community. Whether it's a space battle , or a NPC come to life meeting or whatever, I would leave that in the hands of the developers. The possible scenarios I have described was just some examples of what could be a developer run event and is in no way something that has to be that way.

    I understand some of the problems that could develop (like lag for instance and yes that was common occurrence in the old MXO days) and of course if there was prizes being handed out (again a possible scenario) some would have a problem if they missed out on that. I mean I could see an example of a scenario where there are no special prizes for participating, just having the experience of being in an event that was fun.

    And I think in the end that's what I was trying to relate as something that was a little different from what is the norm or even the mundane. Again I want to express that these are just possible scenarios to an idea of developer interaction with the player base. If anyone has some ideas of possible scenarios then by all means tell us about it.
    "There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see, and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. The words of Ten Bears carries the same iron of life and death. It is good that warriors such as we meet in the struggle of life... or death. It shall be life." - Ten Bears (Will Sampson)
  • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    I do appreciate the feedback as it is the sole purpose to what the forums is about (at least in my opinion). The whole purpose was to give an idea of having the devs participate with the gaming community. Whether it's a space battle , or a NPC come to life meeting or whatever, I would leave that in the hands of the developers. The possible scenarios I have described was just some examples of what could be a developer run event and is in no way something that has to be that way.

    I understand some of the problems that could develop (like lag for instance and yes that was common occurrence in the old MXO days) and of course if there was prizes being handed out (again a possible scenario) some would have a problem if they missed out on that. I mean I could see an example of a scenario where there are no special prizes for participating, just having the experience of being in an event that was fun.

    And I think in the end that's what I was trying to relate as something that was a little different from what is the norm or even the mundane. Again I want to express that these are just possible scenarios to an idea of developer interaction with the player base. If anyone has some ideas of possible scenarios then by all means tell us about it.

    players had ideas along these lines for the iconian war, not necessarily involving devs but certainly involving random invasions by iconians or their minions in and around earth space dock, ds9, risa and other social areas.

    as I pointed out then I will reiterate now, most players don't want that kind of intrusion on whatever they might be doing there in the first place, like earth space dock for example, players go there to access the shipyard or exchange and such and they certainly don't want that kind of hassle getting in the way of business especially if they have a limited time to do their stuff.

    if you want to meet devs or get prizes ask them to do more live streams by all means but leave it at that.

    When I think about everything we've been through together,

    maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,

     and if that journey takes a little longer,

    so we can do something we all believe in,

     I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.

  • shrimphead2015shrimphead2015 Member Posts: 536 Arc User
    edited November 2015

    players had ideas along these lines for the iconian war, not necessarily involving devs but certainly involving random invasions by iconians or their minions in and around earth space dock, ds9, risa and other social areas.

    as I pointed out then I will reiterate now, most players don't want that kind of intrusion on whatever they might be doing there in the first place, like earth space dock for example, players go there to access the shipyard or exchange and such and they certainly don't want that kind of hassle getting in the way of business especially if they have a limited time to do their stuff.

    if you want to meet devs or get prizes ask them to do more live streams by all means but leave it at that.

    And that's totally fine. I know I sound repetitive but really it's just one possible scenario. I am not saying an impromptu developer attack on ESD or Nimbus or New Romulas , or Qo'Nos (dear god I hope I wrote that correctly) is the foundation for a developer/player interaction, it is just one of the many scenarios they could take. Whether they decide do a battle or not in space or ground is a plot they could come up with. Whether there is a prize for it or not is up to them. Whether it's just a meet and greet with some roleplay added into it is up to them as well. It could be anything but at the end of the day it is just something different from what we would find ourselves in day after day.

    It's just an idea and if a developer looks at this, shakes his or her head and feels that it would be more trouble than what it's worth, then that is totally fine as well. It's not the scenario that I was going for but the interaction between the dev and players in a fun and different venue.

    P.S. I know it's probably annoying to have me respond to the different posts here and could be looked at as me just trying to bump the thread but honestly it wasn't my intent to do so. So I will just let the topic go it's course.
    "There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see, and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. The words of Ten Bears carries the same iron of life and death. It is good that warriors such as we meet in the struggle of life... or death. It shall be life." - Ten Bears (Will Sampson)
  • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    edited November 2015

    players had ideas along these lines for the iconian war, not necessarily involving devs but certainly involving random invasions by iconians or their minions in and around earth space dock, ds9, risa and other social areas.

    as I pointed out then I will reiterate now, most players don't want that kind of intrusion on whatever they might be doing there in the first place, like earth space dock for example, players go there to access the shipyard or exchange and such and they certainly don't want that kind of hassle getting in the way of business especially if they have a limited time to do their stuff.

    if you want to meet devs or get prizes ask them to do more live streams by all means but leave it at that.

    And that's totally fine. I know I sound repetitive but really it's just one possible scenario. I am not saying an impromptu developer attack on ESD or Nimbus or New Romulas , or Qo'Nos (dear god I hope I wrote that correctly) is the foundation for a developer/player interaction, it is just one of the many scenarios they could take. Whether they decide do a battle or not in space or ground is a plot they could come up with. Whether there is a prize for it or not is up to them. Whether it's just a meet and greet with some roleplay added into it is up to them as well. It could be anything but at the end of the day it is just something different from what we would find ourselves in day after day.

    It's just an idea and if a developer looks at this, shakes his or her head and feels that it would be more trouble than what it's worth, then that is totally fine as well. It's not the scenario that I was going for but the interaction between the dev and players in a fun and different venue.

    P.S. I know it's probably annoying to have me respond to the different posts here and could be looked at as me just trying to bump the thread but honestly it wasn't my intent to do so. So I will just let the topic go it's course.

    so heres an idea for a scenarios for you.

    Whether they decide do a battle or not > not.
    Whether there is a prize for it or not > not.
    just a meet and greet with some roleplay added > not.

    developer looks at this, shakes his or her head and feels that it would be more trouble than what it's worth > sounds good.

    P.S. not annoying at all, you keep posting about this and I will keep telling you why I wont work and wont happen anyway.

    like I said before if you want developer/player interaction ask for more live streams.

    When I think about everything we've been through together,

    maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,

     and if that journey takes a little longer,

    so we can do something we all believe in,

     I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.

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