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Just did the stupid mission and only got 21 marks? Are you guys at Cryptic stupid or are you being jerks or what? How dioes that make sense?
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What level did you do the queue on and did you get the optionals? Failing on optionals can cause you to not get the daily marks package in other queues, at a high enough level.
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weren't the marks super low for the iconian stuff as well first few days?
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That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
The reason I asked what level is that it is possible to have something be your first queue of the day, where you would expect the Daily Marks box, but on the higher levels (think it starts with Advanced?), blowing an optional can cause you to not get the Daily Marks box either, in addition to losing the marks you would've had for the optionals. (You CAN get the Daily Marks Box by trying again and getting the optionals, or dropping to a lower level.)
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That's interesting. I thought we got all the optionals but maybe missed one. In any event I got 80 on advanced. I had assumed that was with the bonus 55 but now I'm not sure.
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The only thing I can't recall is whether it's Advanced or Elite that acts like that, but I know that certain failures to reach objectives can prevent getting the Daily Marks box.
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Did your success on the objectives and optionals change the second time around?
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From what I understand, Borticus recently lashed out at a player that was complaining about the low rewards from some of the new content. He was upset that people focus on the numeric rewards rather than the fun of just playing new content. Two things:
Yes, it can be fun to play new content. But getting the reward, that thing which says "You win, have a prize!" is usually a part of that fun. A big part. It is unfair to try to have them separated into discrete boxes.
Secondly, and more importantly, this game revolves around numeric rewards. This game is based on iterative grinding for rewards. The art, writing, story, and characters do provide some appeal and attraction, I will not deny that, but on a deep, pragmatic level , this game is about getting those rewards. And that is because the game is made that way. It is about grinding; it is about the Skinner Box. Click for experience grind. Specialization grind. Duty Officer grind. Crafting grind. Upgrade Grind. Fleet project grind. And now the Admiralty system. Good idea, story/rp wise, but mechanically, just more time-gates and grind. The Terran Reputation is the 8th, Yes, the 8th reputation system. (That doesn't count the special event projects either). A large portion of this game is built upon this. Click, get a reward. Click, get a reward. The player base is psychologically trained to focus on those rewards.
And then a dev gets upset because players focus on those rewards? How dare you?! YOU MADE THE GAME THAT WAY!
Awesome post there! Yea the drive to progress is the one and only drive which basically every MMOPG player shares.
Both new queues feel ohkayish with the current rewards at best BUT ONLY if one includes the daily reward. Cryptic saw to it that both new maps have been time-gated to limit the rewards again as well.
I can see myself running those queues to pull my 9 chars through reputations but under consideration of the few marks one gets can’t already help myself but to do the math about it how to do so most efficiently. And that’s already where fun stops and grind starts.
If those maps have a long live or share the fate of mine trap remains to be seen and will be seen 3-6 months down the road.
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AFAIK all optionals were met. I did do this mission earlier so the daily bonus is gone, but still 36 marks seem kind of low?
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I think so. Infected Manus (Advanced) for example grands 75 when optional objectives are achieved (130 with daily and optinal met). Only time-gate is the terrain there but I estimate similar average timeframes to run it.
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Yeah ISA awards 75 marks without the daily bonus and it runs much much shorter than this.
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Cryptic do this every freaking time. They constantly try to push the limit of player frustration, until they eventually have to relent/give in.
Cryptic keep moaning about how players keep exploiting the game, so how about Cryptic quit exploiting the players, first?
Went the the Badlands BZ and they were already at the end so took part in that. Later I went back, helped capture 4-5 points, did 2 of the base things and the final battle.
Played Counterpoint 2 times (maybe 3, ran another toon through a couple things as well so can't remember for sure). Played Assault on Terok Nor 3 times as I like that one. Both on normal. Got the daily once.
End result, over 300 marks and 5 of the elite marks. All in all I'm pretty pleased with that. And I'm not a high DPS player either, far from it.
I'd already got the daily package so that was still on cooldown.
But 18 marks seems seriously low, something not right?!
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Quoted for truth.
Rewards are insulting on both new maps.
The rewards are also bugged it seems so on occasion players do not get the daily mark reward making this time gated contend even more absurd.
If cryptic does not adjust we look at 2 more dead queues in a matter of a few weeks.
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Most unexpectedly, this turned into a flame-fest! Closed it goes!. /sigh What flamefestery is this? pwlaughingtrendy
So no idea what the hell is going on as the rewards are definitely up the wazoo.
They'd better fix this asap or people are going to drop these queues quickly and they'll just end up dead like everything else.