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Alternate Timelines you would like to see in Star Trek

rosetyler51rosetyler51 Member Posts: 1,631 Arc User
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The Maquis Rebellion: After the Solosos III attack by Captain Sisko becomes public knowledge the Maquis see a swell in ranks and aid from the Klingons and maybe even the Romulans. Now the Federation is forced into a new war.

True be told I really want to do a DS9 rant thread but I want to avoid making threads that stand a good chance of getting closed.

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  • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    Interestingly enough, the other day one of my STO characters reached Delta Rising and while I was watching the intro video, where they say "Voyager's first journey through the Delta Quadrant was a solitary one" I found myself wondering 'Why?'

    Forgive me for it sounding like a bad Battlestar Galactia rip-off, but I still wouldn't mind seeing an alternate Voy timeline where instead of being a lone ship, Voyager became the de-facto flagship of a fleet of ships; Talaxians, maybe the Kobali, possibly one of the Kazon sects (the Relora, for example, since they weren't exactly on any more friendly terms with the Nistrim than Voyager's crew was), or perhaps some of the surviving Octani - sort of a mobile mini-Federation.
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  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan
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    turbomagnus wrote: »
    Interestingly enough, the other day one of my STO characters reached Delta Rising and while I was watching the intro video, where they say "Voyager's first journey through the Delta Quadrant was a solitary one" I found myself wondering 'Why?'

    Forgive me for it sounding like a bad Battlestar Galactia rip-off, but I still wouldn't mind seeing an alternate Voy timeline where instead of being a lone ship, Voyager became the de-facto flagship of a fleet of ships; Talaxians, maybe the Kobali, possibly one of the Kazon sects (the Relora, for example, since they weren't exactly on any more friendly terms with the Nistrim than Voyager's crew was), or perhaps some of the surviving Octani - sort of a mobile mini-Federation.
    or have the vetar survive and have gul evek forced to team up with voyager all the way back to the alpha quadrant (although cardassians being a pragmatic sort, it likely wouldn't have been so forced to him; having to work with the same terrorists he was hunting down would probably rankle a bit, though)​​
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    Like their Year of Hell alliance but from the start?​​
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  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    Where Beverly actually admitted that Picard was Wesley's father...
  • k20vteck20vtec Member Posts: 535 Arc User
    marcusdkane wrote: »
    Where Beverly actually admitted that Picard was Wesley's father...

    The hell? I am not even sure how do I start... Just, where is this theory coming from
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  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    k20vtec wrote: »
    marcusdkane wrote: »
    Where Beverly actually admitted that Picard was Wesley's father...

    The hell? I am not even sure how do I start... Just, where is this theory coming from
    In Season One, she dropped hints that she had 'something important' to tell him. It was never explored, and the writers obviously wound up going in a different direction, but the foundations where laid for had they chosen to make that a revelation... B)

  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    ENT without the Temporal Cold War. :p

    Another would be TNG where Tasha doesn't get killed by Armus.
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  • catstarstocatstarsto Member Posts: 2,149 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    markhawkman wrote: »
    ENT without the Temporal Cold War. :p
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    ^ you win
  • sovereign47sovereign47 Member Posts: 399 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    DS9 in which Dukat gets killed by Garak and Cardassians join the Alliance against the Dominion under the leadership of Legate Damar.
    Voyager in which USS Voyager isn't Intrepid, but Sovereign, Prometheus or Nebula class starship. That would certainly be more plausible then watching small light cruiser blowing Borg, 8472 and other powerful ships to bits with just a few phaser arrays and 38 photon torpedoes, or some wild technobabble :p
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    Nebula maybe, but Prometheus hadn't been built yet, and maybe the Sov too.
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  • catstarstocatstarsto Member Posts: 2,149 Arc User
    to see how a timeline where tech, ships and uniforms from the TOS era never changed throughout each series, just to see how much it would change things. given even the borg and dominion are from that era too so it wouldnt change power of combat/defense balance.
  • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 6,015 Arc User
    A TNG alternate timeline where the Borg invade in full force quadrant wide
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    • catstarstocatstarsto Member Posts: 2,149 Arc User
      theraven2378 wrote: »
      A TNG alternate timeline where the Borg invade in full force quadrant wide

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFBC9qmghl8
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    • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
      artan42 wrote: »
      Like their Year of Hell alliance but from the start?​​

      Yeah, I suppose it could be put that way...

      Or how about a timeline where the Celestial Temple/Bajoran Wormhole was never discovered, so DS9 never became an important post and the Dominion War never occurred?

      Or a timeline where the unidentified Breen isn't killed during the escape from Internment Camp 371, resulting in the Breen joining the Dominion War on the side of the Alpha Quadrant early on rather than allying with the Dominion during the last months of the war?

      Maybe a timeline where instead of Earth's First Contact being with a Vulcan survey ship, it was with an Andorian Imperial Guard vessel - resulting in a strong Earth/Andoria partnership rather than the Vulcans' trying to force a mentor/pupil relationship on Earth.

      Or what if the unthinkable happened; what if there was a timeline where the Federation either A; never came into existance or B; broke apart at some point after its creation?
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    • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
      Umm... they did kinda explore that in ENT... it was part of why the Sphere builders tried to trick the Xindi into nuking Earth.
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    • lilchibiclarililchibiclari Member Posts: 1,193 Arc User
      turbomagnus wrote: »
      Maybe a timeline where instead of Earth's First Contact being with a Vulcan survey ship, it was with an Andorian Imperial Guard vessel - resulting in a strong Earth/Andoria partnership rather than the Vulcans' trying to force a mentor/pupil relationship on Earth.

      This one actually sounds like good story fodder.
    • k20vteck20vtec Member Posts: 535 Arc User
      lilchibiclari wrote: »
      turbomagnus wrote: »
      Maybe a timeline where instead of Earth's First Contact being with a Vulcan survey ship, it was with an Andorian Imperial Guard vessel - resulting in a strong Earth/Andoria partnership rather than the Vulcans' trying to force a mentor/pupil relationship on Earth.

      This one actually sounds like good story fodder.

      Is it just me or will Earth still be a underdog to Andorians, I feel we would end up in a worse position....
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    • the0infamousthe0infamous Member Posts: 528 Arc User
      I'll try not to rant too hard against Enterprise, but yes to the cold war thing. I refused to watch the show until recently and that is one of the reasons.

      However, my #1 is the one I cannot remember: the destruction of Romulus. I'm a fan of the Romulans and everywhere I look people tell me the planets blew up in Nemesis but I really dont remember it. (if it happened in the reboot, it doesnt count)
    • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
      the0infamous wrote: »
      I'll try not to rant too hard against Enterprise, but yes to the cold war thing. I refused to watch the show until recently and that is one of the reasons.

      However, my #1 is the one I cannot remember: the destruction of Romulus. I'm a fan of the Romulans and everywhere I look people tell me the planets blew up in Nemesis but I really dont remember it. (if it happened in the reboot, it doesnt count)

      It happens in the future after Nemesis, you see it happen in ST:09 (which is not a reboot) but it effects the Prime Reality not the Alternate Reality.​​
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    • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,460 Arc User
      edited October 2015
      In the '09 movie, the destruction of Romulus was the event that Spock was trying (and failing) to prevent; as a side-effect of the method he employed, both his ship and Nero's were sent back in time, where they created the offshoot universe that the movies have since followed. In this so-called "reboot" (although the characters themselves say explicitly in dialog that theirs is an alternate universe) Romulus still exists, but Nero, crazed with grief over the destruction he'd seen in the original timeline, eliminated Vulcan as a form of revenge. He was apparently going to go on to wipe out all the other major Federation worlds, with Earth next on his list, but was prevented from doing so by the efforts of the Enterprise and both Spocks.
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    • lordrezeonlordrezeon Member Posts: 399 Arc User
      edited October 2015
      turbomagnus wrote: »
      Forgive me for it sounding like a bad Battlestar Galactia rip-off, but I still wouldn't mind seeing an alternate Voy timeline where instead of being a lone ship, Voyager became the de-facto flagship of a fleet of ships; Talaxians, maybe the Kobali, possibly one of the Kazon sects (the Relora, for example, since they weren't exactly on any more friendly terms with the Nistrim than Voyager's crew was), or perhaps some of the surviving Octani - sort of a mobile mini-Federation.

      From the sound of it you might like the current line of Star Trek Voyager novels, from the book "Full Circle" onwards the USS Voyager returns to the Delta Quadrant as part of a nine ship fleet to properly explore the region using the Federations recently mastered Quantum Slipstream engines. The fleet consists of Voyager, two Vesta class ships, three Merian class ships (imagine Miranda class ships with triangular primary hulls, a picture of them appeared in the ships of the line calendar series), and the last three ships were specialized with a corp of engineers ship, a medical ship, and an agricultural ship. I find the general concept of this to be a lot more interesting than what any of the other Star Trek novels are currently doing.


      As for what kind of alternate timeline/storylines I would like... I have to agree having Tasha stay as part of the TNG cast would have been nice, they could have split up the roles of tactical officer and security chief between her and Worf and even let them butt heads on occasion, not to mention the possible storylines of her trying to pursue a relationship with Data who simply couldn't return her affection properly.

      Another possibility would be a timeline where Picard retired from Starfleet after Best of Both Worlds and Riker went on as the Enterprise's captain. The situation actually almost happened as Patrick Stewart's contract was up at the time and he was skeptical of the shows future.


      If we want to get really wild with the ideas though... then how about a scenario where all the TNG-DS9-VOY casts are reimagined into the rebooted-TOS era. Obviously the TNG cast would have to be on a different ship, perhaps a new version of the Stargazer or maybe even on a new version of the Excelsior.

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    • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
      What about a timeline where the YE Enterprise-D ended up joining the Enterprise-C in traveling back in time to Narendra III?
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    • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
      I'd definitely love to se a Nu-Trek spin on TNG DS9 and Voy.
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      Timeline where the Vulcans were less directly exploration oriented and so founded a version of the Federation early.
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    • messahlamessahla Member Posts: 1,160 Arc User
      A alt timeline where romulus is not destroyed and the romulan empire conquers all of the alpha quadrant then sets its sites on the delta quadrant after bringing the iconians and mirror universe to heel.
    • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
      I think I mentioned this in another thread, but...

      A timeline where, after Praxis, the peace/rebuilding/cooperation movement had faltered - not necessarily by the Cartwright/Chang conspiracy succeeding, rather just by more Starfleet officers and Federation officials refusing to come to the aid of a nominally hostile power... Qo'nos would have been rendered uninhabitable, the tension between the Empire and the Federation would probably have remained high at least until Narendra III and the Enterprise-C... The Federation would have been less inclined to be involved in the affair of the Empire, including K'mpec's death and the Gowron/Duras Civil War...
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    • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
      An alternate universe where Starfleet is exploring.
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    • lilchibiclarililchibiclari Member Posts: 1,193 Arc User
      turbomagnus wrote: »
      What about a timeline where the YE Enterprise-D ended up joining the Enterprise-C in traveling back in time to Narendra III?

      Hmm, with the more powerful Galaxy-class ship aiding it, they might actually defeat the four Romulan ships and survive.
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