Yeah... kind of what I expected. Not really bad but simply not as good as the pilot escorts. Really piggybacking on the fact that it's a member of prometheus line.
While I do absolutely love the hestia's looks (srsly, that's some god damn awesome job done) it's just outclassed by the pilot bunch, specifically the Icarus.
Yeah, the design does look nice. And while the Boff layout is 'usable', it's far from a perfect setup.
The Pilot escorts however are OP and will stay so for quite a while.
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why the command station???...we all wanted a pilot station on the Eng tac seat!!
Shes an escort class, not a command class, shes designed for speed and hit a run attacks, not sitting on the sidelines giving orders....PLEASE CHANGE THE COMMAND SEAT!!!
Yes, very stupid decision. Why would a flimsy Escort ship be a Command vessel? Makes no sense.
Yup, definitely keeping my Fed Tact in his Manticore. My issue is 3 Tactical Boffs slots, Three Tact ensigns. If one of those tacts was the Command Hybrid or the Tact Ensign was a universal, this would be a buy.
I have no issue with Command Spec, but this Boff arrangement displeases me.
I'll still be quite happy to field my T5U Fleet MVAE, she and the Ajax are my favorite Fed Escorts.
If they had made this Pilot it would be so close to the Icarus, my Gripe is the 3rd Tact Ensign.
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Using Command bridge officer abilities causes this plasma fire aura to "flare up" and cause even more damage to nearby enemies.
The only skill I see that complements the plasma console would be the Emergency Artillery Barrage. Other than that, the pilot skills would work better.
I mean the ship looks great and I would love to buy it because I like the Prometheus, but the seating kills it for me.
I was really looking forward to this, and while the design is really really good, you should consider changing that command specialization to either pilot or intel, it suits it more due to the nature of the ship; though command could also seem logical, as you would command three separate parts when in MVA mode... And I would make that ensign slot an universal one.
Yeah, and it looks terrible on the original model. It just looks like the section is broken. Could this get a fix eventually, please? I know "eventually" is a dangerous word to throw around these parts, but still...
Yeah, that flat part used to be there, but now it's gone missing. My ship has ghost phaser arrays that shoot from subspace now:
No universal station? So much tactical with only a 4/3 weapon layout.
yeah, it's kinda awkward having 3 tac seats, eng/com, and sci....
It completely changes some of the most commonly used setups, and Reciprocity will probably have to go. As far as I can tell, the only T6 ships without any Universal stations are the Advanced Escort, Advanced Heavy Cruiser, and Experimental Science Vessel. Why is this?
yeah, weird....
I can think of a way to use it, but it's a minelayer build. You could use Tac Team, APB, TS, DPB, APO, and FaW all at once.
Heh, command seating on an escort? Well, you will see how well it will sell... (although coupled with "prometheus" name and gorgeous design it might not be bad)
Missing parts on older model when using separation mode? Ohh yes, definitely Cry(a)ptic work here, no doubts about it. I am betting it will take anywhere from two weeks to a whole year to fix. (or never, I am not sure here)
I have already exchanged dil. for ZEN though, so I will wait how good the trait actually is. Might replace reciprocity in builds where it is not needed.
I think it's important to point out that the way the MVAE currently splits since the patch on (I think) 3rd of September as well as the way the Hestia splits in the screenshots is not right. See the video posted above in this thread.
I guess that this was done in order to enable the split while moving - which is a compromise I can accept, but please (with cherries on top) fix the sections on the Prometheus class skin. Currently they look terrible.
-K
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I think they chose command due to the console ability as this line from the blog suggests so "Using Command bridge officer abilities causes this plasma fire aura to "flare up" and cause even more damage to nearby enemies."
I think they chose command due to the console ability as this line from the blog suggests so "Using Command bridge officer abilities causes this plasma fire aura to "flare up" and cause even more damage to nearby enemies."
I have no problem with it being Command instead of Pilot. It gives some interesting options, and works well from a RP point of view. The problem is sticking it on the Eng slot. It would be fine if the Ensign was Universal, or switch the Command to the Sci slot.
The Command seat also happens to be an engineering seat, and you happen to run on a ship that can be 3 ships, that means all those team-buffs in the Command profession might actually be useful if you're solo.
So we can either be a really, really squishy escort with command powers or we can be a decent escort with no specialization powers? Coupled with the mastery trait I can understand the thinking about putting a command seat on a ship that can split into three other ships but why not put it on one of the tac stations?
Please, lay down the bong before releasing such flops.This ship is bound to make the Dyson Science Destroyer look like a success story in comparison.
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Only redeemable feature is the lt.comm sci slot for me, but still won't be buying it cos the rest of the boff layout is garbage. Feds are already over-saturated with command ships, why add a terrible one to the list?
That. They could have cared about changing the T5U's Ensign slots to Universal while they were there anyway.
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The Command seat also happens to be an engineering seat, and you happen to run on a ship that can be 3 ships, that means all those team-buffs in the Command profession might actually be useful if you're solo.
So we can either be a really, really squishy escort with command powers or we can be a decent escort with no specialization powers? Coupled with the mastery trait I can understand the thinking about putting a command seat on a ship that can split into three other ships but why not put it on one of the tac stations?
It could a Lt.Cmdr Science slot, too. You basically equip EPtS1, Science Team and Hazard Emitters II, the usual Tactical Team in one of those Tactical slots, and one of the trillion self-healing sets and consoles, and you're covered in healing. And IIRC, some of the Command Powers like Overwhelm Emitters and Rally Point also give healing.
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I like it and will definitely buy it. Because Command on an escort is different. It breaks the mould a little and I am looking forward to seeing what can be done with it. And the design is superb!
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Yeah, the design does look nice. And while the Boff layout is 'usable', it's far from a perfect setup.
The Pilot escorts however are OP and will stay so for quite a while.
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Agreed. Slapping a flimsy Escort with Command was an insufferably stupid decision.
Yes, very stupid decision. Why would a flimsy Escort ship be a Command vessel? Makes no sense.
I have no issue with Command Spec, but this Boff arrangement displeases me.
I'll still be quite happy to field my T5U Fleet MVAE, she and the Ajax are my favorite Fed Escorts.
If they had made this Pilot it would be so close to the Icarus, my Gripe is the 3rd Tact Ensign.
I mean the ship looks great and I would love to buy it because I like the Prometheus, but the seating kills it for me.
"Hey guys! Let's take this ship that has never been good and make it even worse! The players are surely stupid enough to throw money at it!"
If so, well done Cryptic.
Well done.
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Yeah, that flat part used to be there, but now it's gone missing. My ship has ghost phaser arrays that shoot from subspace now:
Seems to reflect the new ship:
I can think of a way to use it, but it's a minelayer build.
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Missing parts on older model when using separation mode? Ohh yes, definitely Cry(a)ptic work here, no doubts about it. I am betting it will take anywhere from two weeks to a whole year to fix. (or never, I am not sure here)
I have already exchanged dil. for ZEN though, so I will wait how good the trait actually is. Might replace reciprocity in builds where it is not needed.
I guess that this was done in order to enable the split while moving - which is a compromise I can accept, but please (with cherries on top) fix the sections on the Prometheus class skin. Currently they look terrible.
-K
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And with only 2 Feds, vs 7 KDF & 3 Romulan, I can hardly justify that.
I'd be careful, the prior blog says the trait doesn't affect hanger pets.
Friend just pointed that out to me too, even less interest now.
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So we can either be a really, really squishy escort with command powers or we can be a decent escort with no specialization powers? Coupled with the mastery trait I can understand the thinking about putting a command seat on a ship that can split into three other ships but why not put it on one of the tac stations?
Quoted for truth.
Only redeemable feature is the lt.comm sci slot for me, but still won't be buying it cos the rest of the boff layout is garbage. Feds are already over-saturated with command ships, why add a terrible one to the list?
That. They could have cared about changing the T5U's Ensign slots to Universal while they were there anyway.
Bad.
You might think it looks pretty but it's also pretty useless. The phrase 'lipstick on a pig' comes to mind.
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1. Ensign Tact station.
2. Command Specialisation.
3. No model/texture update that i can see listed for the Original Prometheus
Thanks but i'll stick with the Superior Tier 6 Akira