Nelen Exil can't be trained in other ground skills??

mectesh · September 2015

I just completed Dyson rep T5, got Nelen Exil, dismissed a bridge officer to free up a slot, commissioned him, added him to the away team for ground and... it appears he can't be trained in any ground skills other than the ones he comes with (MT1, TH2, VR2, NHM1). Promoted Nelen Exil to Commander, changed maps, changed from space to ground, logged the character in/out, quit and restarted the game client,... nothing made a difference. I haven't seen this happen before with any other reward/special bridge officer. Is this an "undocumented change" for Nelen Exil, or is it just broken?

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sqwished · September 2015

Just need to ask you for a few more details. I've picked up your post bug and tried to replicate it using conventional kit powers and I've been able to train Nelen in the random cross section I chose. Going from Ensign through to Commander without any trouble. Could you please confirm for me what power your trying to train him in?

hugin1205 · September 2015

have you promoted him?
you can only Train LtCom skills if you have promoted the BOff to that rank

mectesh · September 2015

To answer your question directly: any skill; it wasn't possible to select one of the "Default Ground Abilities" by rank in order to click on "Learn" for a purchased manual as the area was completely blank as if he didn't even have any, although checking the Skills section of his Status tab showed the standard initial set he was issued with.

For reference, my main who has had Nelen Exil for quite some time doesn't have any issues training him (or any other bridge officer for that matter). In this case, the issue was with a pair of alts that had just completed Dyson rep T5 and acquired Nelen Exil. What made this noticeable is that I typically have a sci "medic" assigned to the first Away Team station (top/left corner of the block of 4) on every character - usually with the same fixed set of skills (MT1, VR1, HM1, NHM1).

Re-checking today, it appears it may just be a "display bug". I brought up the Skills tab, selected Nelen Exil, and while "Default Ground Abilities" was still blank, he now at least had ground skills listed in the Science Abilities area of the UI (which didn't appear to be the case previously). It appeared to show all of the CO rank skills - including his default "Nanite Health Monitor I", which didn't show a "Learn" button, but also didn't have the highlight around the skill showing it was currently "selected". Out of curiosity, I clicked on NHM1 and... suddenly "Default Ground Abilities" populated with ALL of his ground skills. I've not seen this behavior with the Skills tab with any other newly acquired bridge officer.

So, while there appears to be a "workaround" (i.e. manually select his only known skill for whichever skill rank is currently displayed), there's definitely a (skill display) bug when Nelen Exil is first acquired, as it occurred on two different alts at two different times.

sqwished · September 2015

I've found that my Delta recruit doesn't have Nelen Exil yet, so I'll go claim him and hopefully I can replicate what your seeing.

Update : I've gone through all the cut scenes and collect Nelen, but I've still been unable to replicate what your seeing. I've been able to train him in in various skills both ground and space, ranging from Ensign through to Commander level skills.

comrademoco · September 2015

hugin1205 wrote: »

have you promoted him?
you can only Train LtCom skills if you have promoted the BOff to that rank

with the recent revamp to BOffs skills, there is no need to promote BOffs in order to train them.

I'll check once in game with my Nelen to see if I can replicate.

comrademoco · September 2015

I am also unable to recreate the issue, I was able to train my Nelen on other ground skills at CDM level.

Notes
~ Tested on tribble
~ Manuals were obtain from the BOff trainer at ESD.

[Deleted User] · September 2015

comrademoco wrote: »

hugin1205 wrote: »

have you promoted him?
you can only Train LtCom skills if you have promoted the BOff to that rank

with the recent revamp to BOffs skills, there is no need to promote BOffs in order to train them.

Really, cuz on my alt, if I have a boff at Lt. Cmdr, it doesn't let me train a Commander skill unless I promote them.

toiva · September 2015

sov42 wrote: »

comrademoco wrote: »

hugin1205 wrote: »

have you promoted him?
you can only Train LtCom skills if you have promoted the BOff to that rank

with the recent revamp to BOffs skills, there is no need to promote BOffs in order to train them.

Really, cuz on my alt, if I have a boff at Lt. Cmdr, it doesn't let me train a Commander skill unless I promote them.

Same here. Just yesterday I had an intel Boff join my crew and indeed had to first promote him in order to train him some OSS 2.

Nelen Exil can't be trained in other ground skills??

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