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What happened to Kes???

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http://www.stargossipnews.com/star-trek-voyager-actress-arrested-for-exposing-TRIBBLE-butt-to-young-kids/
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    the Kes? last I heard they were still a minor political power located on the edge of Federation space. Their membership was declined due to their war with the Prytt. AFAIK they haven't been mentioned in STO at all.

    as for the link... bleah..
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  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    My answer was about to be...STO wise, we'd be seeing her great-great grandkids, at least.

    As for that link--not going to speculate.

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  • zeuxidemus001zeuxidemus001 Member Posts: 3,357 Arc User
    The one thing they never really got into was how quinn had an ocampa secretary basically but its wierd being they never really told any story to that but yet it seems like when we went to the delta quadrant that part didn't exist lol.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    Yeah, that's never been explained, and they DIDN'T change her when they redid ESD.
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  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    Only 6 years older than me, but time has not been kind to her. She looks like she's in her 50s. Aged like an Ocampan.
  • hawku001xhawku001x Member Posts: 10,769 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    Ack. Disappointing. Hope she gets the help she needs.
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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    One word.... Janeway.
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,966 Arc User
    The more important question is, why should I give a flying TRIBBLE?
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  • maxvitormaxvitor Member Posts: 2,213 Arc User
    Well I think it's safe to say we won't be seeing an appearance of Ms. Lien in STO. :p I don't know what happened to her but whatever it was, events have not been kind. Lets hope she can turn her life around for her own sake.
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  • rickdankorickdanko Member Posts: 470 Arc User
    Frankly, I hope we DO see her in STO. Looks like she could use the work. C'mon Craptic, throw her a bone. What if someone did a kickstarter to pay her for STO voiceover work? Time for the Star Trek community to be as compassionate as they claim to be.
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  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    Really sad to see this on several levels... The headlines're making it sound like she was deliberately exposing herself to children, like some kind of pedophile or those predatory teachers who f*ck their students, when instead, it's just a case that she was acting like the white-trash we see getting tazed for mouthing off on Cops... On the one hand, sad to find out that she's the kind of person who would behave like that, but on the other, who hasn't been a bit embarrassing at one time or another...? :disappointed:
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  • moonshadowdarkmoonshadowdark Member Posts: 1,899 Arc User
    She's gone nuttier than the plotline to Insurrection.
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,966 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    shazia9191 wrote: »
    starswordc wrote: »
    The more important question is, why should I give a flying TRIBBLE?

    You are just a constant ray of sunshine here on the STO official forums, aren't you?
    You really want to go there? Okay, let's go to the time of the year Lien was arrested, within two days in either direction. A three-year-old Syrian kid washed up on a beach in Turkey, having drowned when his family tried to get to Europe after they were denied asylum in Canada. Al-Shabaab killed 70 African Union peacekeepers in a raid on their base in Somalia. The president of Guatemala resigned amid a massive corruption scandal. And a judge in Baltimore ordered charges to go forward against six police officers in the death of a prisoner.

    But instead we're talking about a washed-up actress who played a Mary Sue space pixie on a badly written TV show two decades ago. :confused:

    Well, excuse me for delivering a reality check to Mr. TMZ up there, but my reaction is still, why should I give a damn about Jennifer Lien's criminal record?
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  • gfreeman98gfreeman98 Member Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    starswordc wrote: »
    A three-year-old Syrian kid washed up on a beach in Turkey, having drowned when his family tried to get to Europe after they were denied asylum in Canada. Al-Shabaab killed 70 African Union peacekeepers in a raid on their base in Somalia. The president of Guatemala resigned amid a massive corruption scandal. And a judge in Baltimore ordered charges to go forward against six police officers in the death of a prisoner.
    I don't come to the STO forums to talk about any of that stuff - Not the place for it.

    As a Trek alum, discussion of former actors is completely appropriate. Whether you give a TRIBBLE about it, flying or otherwise, is irrelevant. The only reason it's making news at all is the shocking transformation from what we saw 20 years ago to that mugshot.

    Frankly I was shocked when I realized it's really been that long since Voyager first went on the air! :o

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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    You see you could do a post without using the f-word. Now that wasn't so hard now was it.
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  • kinaenovkinaenov Member Posts: 14 Arc User
    News like this makes me sad... particularly since I really liked Kes as a character.
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    Meth. Not even once.
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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    iconians wrote: »
    Meth. Not even once.

    Doesn't look like meth to me, but I'm certain drugs have been involved.
  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,966 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    gfreeman98 wrote: »
    starswordc wrote: »
    A three-year-old Syrian kid washed up on a beach in Turkey, having drowned when his family tried to get to Europe after they were denied asylum in Canada. Al-Shabaab killed 70 African Union peacekeepers in a raid on their base in Somalia. The president of Guatemala resigned amid a massive corruption scandal. And a judge in Baltimore ordered charges to go forward against six police officers in the death of a prisoner.
    I don't come to the STO forums to talk about any of that stuff - Not the place for it.

    As a Trek alum, discussion of former actors is completely appropriate. Whether you give a TRIBBLE about it, flying or otherwise, is irrelevant. The only reason it's making news at all is the shocking transformation from what we saw 20 years ago to that mugshot.

    Frankly I was shocked when I realized it's really been that long since Voyager first went on the air! :o

    Then you've missed the point of Star Trek. It's not just pewpew and technobabble. A major component of the franchise's original concept was to comment on real-life social issues, issues that Gene Roddenberry did not feel could be properly addressed in a crime procedural or Western. And that's a tenet of the franchise that ran from its first incarnation to its last: TNG at its best showed us what we could be if we worked to improve ourselves; DS9 dared to show a world that was not perfect where not everybody was truly hero or villain, the pitfalls and troubles faced by a new government, and the choices we make at when things are at their most bleak; and ENT remarked on current events such as 9/11 and explored racial prejudice and HIV. Even VOY managed it on occasion, like using the Voth to lampoon creationists.

    So caring more about TMZ celebrity stupidity than about things in the world that actually matter just cheapens the franchise and shows you didn't get it.
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  • tamujiintamujiin Member Posts: 321 Arc User
    starswordc wrote: »
    gfreeman98 wrote: »
    starswordc wrote: »
    A three-year-old Syrian kid washed up on a beach in Turkey, having drowned when his family tried to get to Europe after they were denied asylum in Canada. Al-Shabaab killed 70 African Union peacekeepers in a raid on their base in Somalia. The president of Guatemala resigned amid a massive corruption scandal. And a judge in Baltimore ordered charges to go forward against six police officers in the death of a prisoner.
    I don't come to the STO forums to talk about any of that stuff - Not the place for it.

    As a Trek alum, discussion of former actors is completely appropriate. Whether you give a TRIBBLE about it, flying or otherwise, is irrelevant. The only reason it's making news at all is the shocking transformation from what we saw 20 years ago to that mugshot.

    Frankly I was shocked when I realized it's really been that long since Voyager first went on the air! :o

    Then you've missed the point of Star Trek. It's not just pewpew and technobabble. A major component of the franchise's original concept was to comment on real-life social issues, issues that Gene Roddenberry did not feel could be properly addressed in a crime procedural or Western. And that's a tenet of the franchise that ran from its first incarnation to its last: TNG at its best showed us what we could be if we worked to improve ourselves; DS9 dared to show a world that was not perfect where not everybody was truly hero or villain, the pitfalls and troubles faced by a new government, and the choices we make at when things are at their most bleak; and ENT remarked on current events such as 9/11 and explored racial prejudice and HIV. Even VOY managed it on occasion, like using the Voth to lampoon creationists.

    So caring more about TMZ celebrity stupidity than about things in the world that actually matter just cheapens the franchise and shows you didn't get it.

    You get hostile much?
  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,966 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    tamujiin wrote: »
    starswordc wrote: »
    gfreeman98 wrote: »
    starswordc wrote: »
    A three-year-old Syrian kid washed up on a beach in Turkey, having drowned when his family tried to get to Europe after they were denied asylum in Canada. Al-Shabaab killed 70 African Union peacekeepers in a raid on their base in Somalia. The president of Guatemala resigned amid a massive corruption scandal. And a judge in Baltimore ordered charges to go forward against six police officers in the death of a prisoner.
    I don't come to the STO forums to talk about any of that stuff - Not the place for it.

    As a Trek alum, discussion of former actors is completely appropriate. Whether you give a TRIBBLE about it, flying or otherwise, is irrelevant. The only reason it's making news at all is the shocking transformation from what we saw 20 years ago to that mugshot.

    Frankly I was shocked when I realized it's really been that long since Voyager first went on the air! :o

    Then you've missed the point of Star Trek. It's not just pewpew and technobabble. A major component of the franchise's original concept was to comment on real-life social issues, issues that Gene Roddenberry did not feel could be properly addressed in a crime procedural or Western. And that's a tenet of the franchise that ran from its first incarnation to its last: TNG at its best showed us what we could be if we worked to improve ourselves; DS9 dared to show a world that was not perfect where not everybody was truly hero or villain, the pitfalls and troubles faced by a new government, and the choices we make at when things are at their most bleak; and ENT remarked on current events such as 9/11 and explored racial prejudice and HIV. Even VOY managed it on occasion, like using the Voth to lampoon creationists.

    So caring more about TMZ celebrity stupidity than about things in the world that actually matter just cheapens the franchise and shows you didn't get it.

    You get hostile much?

    I have a very low opinion of people who think celebrities making asses of themselves in public is at all newsworthy unless it impinges on things that make a tangible difference, such as Donald Trump and Ben Carson in the GOP primary campaign. Here's the difference between that and Jennifer Lien: one of those two Islamophobes could be our next president. That matters. Lien acting like trailer trash doesn't.

    People act like idiots all the time, so why is it somehow worthy of note because this person's name was attached to a TV show?
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  • rooster707rooster707 Member Posts: 901 Arc User
    starswordc wrote: »
    tamujiin wrote: »
    starswordc wrote: »
    gfreeman98 wrote: »
    starswordc wrote: »
    A three-year-old Syrian kid washed up on a beach in Turkey, having drowned when his family tried to get to Europe after they were denied asylum in Canada. Al-Shabaab killed 70 African Union peacekeepers in a raid on their base in Somalia. The president of Guatemala resigned amid a massive corruption scandal. And a judge in Baltimore ordered charges to go forward against six police officers in the death of a prisoner.
    I don't come to the STO forums to talk about any of that stuff - Not the place for it.

    As a Trek alum, discussion of former actors is completely appropriate. Whether you give a TRIBBLE about it, flying or otherwise, is irrelevant. The only reason it's making news at all is the shocking transformation from what we saw 20 years ago to that mugshot.

    Frankly I was shocked when I realized it's really been that long since Voyager first went on the air! :o

    Then you've missed the point of Star Trek. It's not just pewpew and technobabble. A major component of the franchise's original concept was to comment on real-life social issues, issues that Gene Roddenberry did not feel could be properly addressed in a crime procedural or Western. And that's a tenet of the franchise that ran from its first incarnation to its last: TNG at its best showed us what we could be if we worked to improve ourselves; DS9 dared to show a world that was not perfect where not everybody was truly hero or villain, the pitfalls and troubles faced by a new government, and the choices we make at when things are at their most bleak; and ENT remarked on current events such as 9/11 and explored racial prejudice and HIV. Even VOY managed it on occasion, like using the Voth to lampoon creationists.

    So caring more about TMZ celebrity stupidity than about things in the world that actually matter just cheapens the franchise and shows you didn't get it.

    You get hostile much?
    People act like idiots all the time, so why is it somehow worthy of note because this person's name was attached to a TV show?

    Because the TV show in question was Star Trek, and in case you hadn't noticed, this is a Star Trek forum.
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  • ajayalcos#5922 ajayalcos
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    Isn't Kes dead by now?
  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,966 Arc User
    rooster707 wrote: »
    starswordc wrote: »
    tamujiin wrote: »
    starswordc wrote: »
    gfreeman98 wrote: »
    starswordc wrote: »
    A three-year-old Syrian kid washed up on a beach in Turkey, having drowned when his family tried to get to Europe after they were denied asylum in Canada. Al-Shabaab killed 70 African Union peacekeepers in a raid on their base in Somalia. The president of Guatemala resigned amid a massive corruption scandal. And a judge in Baltimore ordered charges to go forward against six police officers in the death of a prisoner.
    I don't come to the STO forums to talk about any of that stuff - Not the place for it.

    As a Trek alum, discussion of former actors is completely appropriate. Whether you give a TRIBBLE about it, flying or otherwise, is irrelevant. The only reason it's making news at all is the shocking transformation from what we saw 20 years ago to that mugshot.

    Frankly I was shocked when I realized it's really been that long since Voyager first went on the air! :o

    Then you've missed the point of Star Trek. It's not just pewpew and technobabble. A major component of the franchise's original concept was to comment on real-life social issues, issues that Gene Roddenberry did not feel could be properly addressed in a crime procedural or Western. And that's a tenet of the franchise that ran from its first incarnation to its last: TNG at its best showed us what we could be if we worked to improve ourselves; DS9 dared to show a world that was not perfect where not everybody was truly hero or villain, the pitfalls and troubles faced by a new government, and the choices we make at when things are at their most bleak; and ENT remarked on current events such as 9/11 and explored racial prejudice and HIV. Even VOY managed it on occasion, like using the Voth to lampoon creationists.

    So caring more about TMZ celebrity stupidity than about things in the world that actually matter just cheapens the franchise and shows you didn't get it.

    You get hostile much?
    People act like idiots all the time, so why is it somehow worthy of note because this person's name was attached to a TV show?

    Because the TV show in question was Star Trek, and in case you hadn't noticed, this is a Star Trek forum.

    Asked and answered. Look three posts up from you; I'm not going to repeat myself.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    starswordc wrote: »
    tamujiin wrote: »
    starswordc wrote: »
    gfreeman98 wrote: »
    starswordc wrote: »
    A three-year-old Syrian kid washed up on a beach in Turkey, having drowned when his family tried to get to Europe after they were denied asylum in Canada. Al-Shabaab killed 70 African Union peacekeepers in a raid on their base in Somalia. The president of Guatemala resigned amid a massive corruption scandal. And a judge in Baltimore ordered charges to go forward against six police officers in the death of a prisoner.
    I don't come to the STO forums to talk about any of that stuff - Not the place for it.

    As a Trek alum, discussion of former actors is completely appropriate. Whether you give a TRIBBLE about it, flying or otherwise, is irrelevant. The only reason it's making news at all is the shocking transformation from what we saw 20 years ago to that mugshot.

    Frankly I was shocked when I realized it's really been that long since Voyager first went on the air! :o
    Then you've missed the point of Star Trek. It's not just pewpew and technobabble. A major component of the franchise's original concept was to comment on real-life social issues, issues that Gene Roddenberry did not feel could be properly addressed in a crime procedural or Western. And that's a tenet of the franchise that ran from its first incarnation to its last: TNG at its best showed us what we could be if we worked to improve ourselves; DS9 dared to show a world that was not perfect where not everybody was truly hero or villain, the pitfalls and troubles faced by a new government, and the choices we make at when things are at their most bleak; and ENT remarked on current events such as 9/11 and explored racial prejudice and HIV. Even VOY managed it on occasion, like using the Voth to lampoon creationists.

    So caring more about TMZ celebrity stupidity than about things in the world that actually matter just cheapens the franchise and shows you didn't get it.

    You get hostile much?
    I have a very low opinion of people who think celebrities making asses of themselves in public is at all newsworthy unless it impinges on things that make a tangible difference, such as Donald Trump and Ben Carson in the GOP primary campaign. Here's the difference between that and Jennifer Lien: one of those two Islamophobes could be our next president. That matters. Lien acting like trailer trash doesn't.

    People act like idiots all the time, so why is it somehow worthy of note because this person's name was attached to a TV show?
    Of course the real question there is whether it IS a phobia. :p *points at ISIL and Iran*

    Also.... the Voth are more a dig at dogma than religion. Especially since they claim their dogma is rooted in science.
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  • rooster707rooster707 Member Posts: 901 Arc User
    starswordc wrote: »
    rooster707 wrote: »
    starswordc wrote: »
    tamujiin wrote: »
    starswordc wrote: »
    gfreeman98 wrote: »
    starswordc wrote: »
    A three-year-old Syrian kid washed up on a beach in Turkey, having drowned when his family tried to get to Europe after they were denied asylum in Canada. Al-Shabaab killed 70 African Union peacekeepers in a raid on their base in Somalia. The president of Guatemala resigned amid a massive corruption scandal. And a judge in Baltimore ordered charges to go forward against six police officers in the death of a prisoner.
    I don't come to the STO forums to talk about any of that stuff - Not the place for it.

    As a Trek alum, discussion of former actors is completely appropriate. Whether you give a TRIBBLE about it, flying or otherwise, is irrelevant. The only reason it's making news at all is the shocking transformation from what we saw 20 years ago to that mugshot.

    Frankly I was shocked when I realized it's really been that long since Voyager first went on the air! :o

    Then you've missed the point of Star Trek. It's not just pewpew and technobabble. A major component of the franchise's original concept was to comment on real-life social issues, issues that Gene Roddenberry did not feel could be properly addressed in a crime procedural or Western. And that's a tenet of the franchise that ran from its first incarnation to its last: TNG at its best showed us what we could be if we worked to improve ourselves; DS9 dared to show a world that was not perfect where not everybody was truly hero or villain, the pitfalls and troubles faced by a new government, and the choices we make at when things are at their most bleak; and ENT remarked on current events such as 9/11 and explored racial prejudice and HIV. Even VOY managed it on occasion, like using the Voth to lampoon creationists.

    So caring more about TMZ celebrity stupidity than about things in the world that actually matter just cheapens the franchise and shows you didn't get it.

    You get hostile much?
    People act like idiots all the time, so why is it somehow worthy of note because this person's name was attached to a TV show?

    Because the TV show in question was Star Trek, and in case you hadn't noticed, this is a Star Trek forum.

    Asked and answered. Look three posts up from you; I'm not going to repeat myself.

    Just because you think something isn't newsworthy doesn't mean it's not, or that people shouldn't be talking about it.
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  • antonine3258antonine3258 Member Posts: 2,391 Arc User
    I don't think it's a bad point for discussion on the current state of a Star Trek actress on a forum for a Star Trek game, especially with a lot of previous talent being hired to perform in the game, though there's nothing wrong with indicating that it's not noteworthy in your opinion, it's less right to use poor language or denigrate people for wishing to discuss it.
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