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xbpathfinderxbpathfinder Member Posts: 22 Arc User
I made a build on reddit =) Check it out!
https://www.reddit.com/r/stobuilds/comments/3ljxov/krenim_imperium_134k/

Please note that this is a Totally Endgame Build.
I'm putting it up here so players are curious about how much it takes are able to find out through this post =)

Take care!

I'm going to state, please don't go for this unless you have several toons churning out dil and R&D + played for a few years.
It is utterly crazy to try and attempt this in a few months!!!

We play to have fun. Just keep the reward/effort tradeoff in mind. I personally do this because I'm friends with a community of people who like doing this.
We all know that it's kinda stupid to do dps in a fanboy's game but we are who we are and don't want to leave all the friends we've made. Hence we keep going at it. Life is so weird.

dark4blood:
^WAY too much legendary for most players. This is for players that are basically rich with billions to waste in EC and dilithium in upgrades. That is why I really don't like DPS people, so unrealistic.
100k Dps Member =) Flying in space is great! When there is no lag...
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    While I appreciate the effort, I am curious who your intended audience is for this build?

    The reason I ask is because you have put together one of the most expensive builds possible in STO. There isn't one 'big ticket' item that you're missing, the total build cost for this is almost inconceivable.

    With all do respect, the only people that can afford these builds are your top 2-5% and they already know all this. While the effort is commendable, your build is designed to help a class of players that simply doesn't need it.

    This build would take either 2-5 years of dedicated play time or hundreds, maybe even thousands of dollars to pull off.
    Insert witty signature line here.
  • ancientfighterancientfighter Member Posts: 113 Arc User
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  • laferrari1laferrari1 Member Posts: 434 Arc User
    My science vessel would still crush it to death.
    No neutroniums = 1 minute combat time
    Uncontrolled damage = feedback pulse crit records

    Yep. But this is STO right now after all. Just deal damage and don't worry about survivability.
    I need to get to him. I can't just leave him out there alone. - Sometimes you've got to makes sacrifices, Lara. You can't save everyone. - I know about sacrifices. - No, you know about loss. Sacrifice is a choice you make. Loss is a choice made for you. - I can't choose to let him die, Roth.
  • hyplhypl Member Posts: 3,719 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    How can I equip two Iconian warp cores? Is this an exploit? :p
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  • scarlingscarling Member Posts: 708 Arc User

    Got it, Now lets see.. Sell my house so I enough money to sell items for EC, Quit my job and disregard my family so I have enough time to do this. Alright I'm all set. Lets do this!
  • xbpathfinderxbpathfinder Member Posts: 22 Arc User
    While I appreciate the effort, I am curious who your intended audience is for this build?

    The reason I ask is because you have put together one of the most expensive builds possible in STO. There isn't one 'big ticket' item that you're missing, the total build cost for this is almost inconceivable.

    With all do respect, the only people that can afford these builds are your top 2-5% and they already know all this. While the effort is commendable, your build is designed to help a class of players that simply doesn't need it.

    This build would take either 2-5 years of dedicated play time or hundreds, maybe even thousands of dollars to pull off.

    Thank you good sir for top notch response!
    You're right this is a totally insane build for people who have played the game for a long time.

    I hope that through this one image, people who are curious about how the top 2-5% do it; really realise how much it takes.

    Just simply zoom out.

    I'm working on a realistic build which will be great for casual players.
    100k Dps Member =) Flying in space is great! When there is no lag...
    dps.shivtr.com/
  • xbpathfinderxbpathfinder Member Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    hypl wrote: »
    How can I equip two Iconian warp cores? Is this an exploit? :p
    laferrari1 wrote: »
    My science vessel would still crush it to death.
    No neutroniums = 1 minute combat time
    Uncontrolled damage = feedback pulse crit records

    Yep. But this is STO right now after all. Just deal damage and don't worry about survivability.

    ^^^ There are Pvp builds out there that will totally crush this Pve ship. Hope no one takes it into Pvp lol.

    Yeah STO doesn't have that game play that good games have.
    Challenging, with impending doom (losing badly), but always a possibility of winning with a strong comeback.
    100k Dps Member =) Flying in space is great! When there is no lag...
    dps.shivtr.com/
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    My advice is to go with Tetryon over Antiproton.

    You can get two category 2 buffs and the Temporal Warp Core is an Amp core.

  • xbpathfinderxbpathfinder Member Posts: 22 Arc User
    My advice is to go with Tetryon over Antiproton.

    You can get two category 2 buffs and the Temporal Warp Core is an Amp core.

    Heya stole, Yeah you're right on track! We thought with the DMG modifier being buffed, Tetryon might be the best.

    We found that tetryon was best for speed runs, getting through all the shields as quick as possible, but not actually taking out chunks of hull.

    The Iconian Warp Core gets [AMP} at ultra rare
    100k Dps Member =) Flying in space is great! When there is no lag...
    dps.shivtr.com/
  • samt1996samt1996 Member Posts: 2,856 Arc User
    It doesn't seem THAT expensive. I already own most of that stuff. I was expecting some R@D ship traits or something... LOL
  • tacticalrooktacticalrook Member Posts: 810 Arc User
    Interesting build.
    /channel_join grind
  • monkeybone13monkeybone13 Member Posts: 4,640 Arc User
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    My sentiments exactly.
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User

    Thank you good sir for top notch response!
    You're right this is a totally insane build for people who have played the game for a long time.

    I hope that through this one image, people who are curious about how the top 2-5% do it; really realise how much it takes.

    Just simply zoom out.

    I'm working on a realistic build which will be great for casual players.

    Fair enough, it's definitely a top notch build.

    Congrats on the 143k Parse, that's quite nice. Very nice build, I'm sure you put in quite a bit of time and resources to accomplish this.
    Insert witty signature line here.
  • paxdawnpaxdawn Member Posts: 767 Arc User
    To the OP, wrong audience. Too many trolls in the STO general discussion. Remain at reddit for less trolls and more players who want to learn. Besides this is general discussion. Should posted it at academy or builds subforum.
    laferrari1 wrote: »
    My science vessel would still crush it to death.
    No neutroniums = 1 minute combat time
    Uncontrolled damage = feedback pulse crit records

    Yep. But this is STO right now after all. Just deal damage and don't worry about survivability.

    Come to HSE with me and find out. Let see how your 20k shields last vs the Borg. Or Are you chicken and all talk?
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    paxdawn wrote: »
    To the OP, wrong audience. Too many trolls in the STO general discussion. Remain at reddit for less trolls and more players who want to learn. Besides this is general discussion. Should posted it at academy or builds subforum.
    laferrari1 wrote: »
    My science vessel would still crush it to death.
    No neutroniums = 1 minute combat time
    Uncontrolled damage = feedback pulse crit records

    Yep. But this is STO right now after all. Just deal damage and don't worry about survivability.

    Come to HSE with me and find out. Let see how your 20k shields last vs the Borg. Or Are you chicken and all talk?

    Can you see how that's maybe kind of offensive and the kind of thing people need to stop saying?
  • laferrari1laferrari1 Member Posts: 434 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    paxdawn wrote: »
    To the OP, wrong audience. Too many trolls in the STO general discussion. Remain at reddit for less trolls and more players who want to learn. Besides this is general discussion. Should posted it at academy or builds subforum.
    laferrari1 wrote: »
    My science vessel would still crush it to death.
    No neutroniums = 1 minute combat time
    Uncontrolled damage = feedback pulse crit records

    Yep. But this is STO right now after all. Just deal damage and don't worry about survivability.

    Come to HSE with me and find out. Let see how your 20k shields last vs the Borg. Or Are you chicken and all talk?

    *29k. And wow HSE, probably the most bugged mission on this planet. By the way you're challenging me to go against the borg... when you issued a challenge against my ship... are the borg supposed to be my opponent (and in that case, I wouldn't care as I already killed two or three Collectives so far doing PvE) or you? That doesn't quite sound like a genius thing if you're challenging me through NPCs.

    Also this and this and this were fights. Not the party talk of PvE.
    I need to get to him. I can't just leave him out there alone. - Sometimes you've got to makes sacrifices, Lara. You can't save everyone. - I know about sacrifices. - No, you know about loss. Sacrifice is a choice you make. Loss is a choice made for you. - I can't choose to let him die, Roth.
  • s2racings2racing Member Posts: 53 Arc User
    My advice is to go with Tetryon over Antiproton.

    You can get two category 2 buffs and the Temporal Warp Core is an Amp core.

    Which two? Unless I'm missing some, which I might be, Apex (at least on Tribble), Nukara, and Butterfly are all Cat1. If they were Cat2, they'd increase the resting DPV of my DHCs by closer to 200 than 50 and turrets by closer to 50 than 10.​​
    Free jkname!
    Can we get some more (canon) KDF outfits, an assortment of respectable skirts/dresses, a long jacket (and more clothes in general) that does plain white well, melee weapon and Mk 15 drops, a T6 Nova, and account-wide lockbox/lobi/promo ships & consoles? Oh, and...
    Still waitin' on Klingon hairstyles actually worn on TV by a Klingon while we're at it.
  • sennahcheribsennahcherib Member Posts: 2,823 Arc User
    thx, you have feed my curiosity. :) but wow! i took a look at the prices of your traits and 300 mil ec one of them. And this is just a build for ISA!
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    s2racing wrote: »
    My advice is to go with Tetryon over Antiproton.

    You can get two category 2 buffs and the Temporal Warp Core is an Amp core.

    Which two? Unless I'm missing some, which I might be, Apex (at least on Tribble), Nukara, and Butterfly are all Cat1. If they were Cat2, they'd increase the resting DPV of my DHCs by closer to 200 than 50 and turrets by closer to 50 than 10.​​

    I am willing to admit I may have this wrong but I don't think you'd see Category 2 improve resting DPV at all. The difference with Category 2 is that it enhances in connunction with buffs. The resting DPV should be the same as Category 1 in the case of DMG mods and +damage set bonuses, shouldn't it? So it looks like category 1 while resting but boosts more in action because the multiplier is applied after buffs rather than before.

    I see more real world, parsed DPS running Tetryon with Nukara and Butterfly 2pcs, Mk XIV purple with epic consoles, than I see running Antiproton MkXIV purple with epic consoles and the Ancient 2 pc. We're talking about 38k right now with Tetryon on my build and around 26k with Antiproton.

    It might be possible that improvements of the damage mod are what make the difference. It might be that if you're running less than 100k DPS, the damage boost is better than the Crit. But I think the damage boost of the set may just surpass AP's Crit until you've sucked all the utility you can out of damage boosts. And my inkling is that without 5 Tac consoles and with the Commander as Sci, the Tetryon perk is going to parse better. I THINK it might only be at the limits of Tac boosts that...

    Actually, that may be it. I'm running an A2B novelty build. Tet with 2 two piece is going to outperform AP the less Tac oriented your ship is, I bet. AP probably does more the more Tac-oriented your configuration is.

    And I'm not talking shield stripping. I'm talking, setting mods aside. The more raw damage is going to surpass things like crits in a build that isn't running Attack Patterns I bet.
  • paxdawnpaxdawn Member Posts: 767 Arc User
    laferrari1 wrote: »
    *29k. And wow HSE, probably the most bugged mission on this planet. By the way you're challenging me to go against the borg... when you issued a challenge against my ship... are the borg supposed to be my opponent (and in that case, I wouldn't care as I already killed two or three Collectives so far doing PvE) or you? That doesn't quite sound like a genius thing if you're challenging me through NPCs.

    Also this and this and this were fights. Not the party talk of PvE.

    Twisted mind you got there. You said no survivability required in PvE. Now you point me into PvP when I am pointing you to PvE. Then, you make lousy excuses that HSE is a bugged mission. Whats that every challenging PvE is bugged/overpowered because you cannot personally finish it? While every not challenging PvE is easy? Make Excuse when it is hard, you flaunt when it is easy.

    You have proven again you are all talk. Create excuses whenever there is PvE challenge. BTW, if you comprehend what I said/answered the challenge is PvE not PvP since you were talking about PvE NOT PvP.
  • s2racings2racing Member Posts: 53 Arc User
    s2racing wrote: »
    My advice is to go with Tetryon over Antiproton.

    You can get two category 2 buffs and the Temporal Warp Core is an Amp core.

    Which two? Unless I'm missing some, which I might be, Apex (at least on Tribble), Nukara, and Butterfly are all Cat1. If they were Cat2, they'd increase the resting DPV of my DHCs by closer to 200 than 50 and turrets by closer to 50 than 10.

    I am willing to admit I may have this wrong but I don't think you'd see Category 2 improve resting DPV at all. The difference with Category 2 is that it enhances in connunction with buffs. The resting DPV should be the same as Category 1 in the case of DMG mods and +damage set bonuses, shouldn't it? So it looks like category 1 while resting but boosts more in action because the multiplier is applied after buffs rather than before.

    Cat2s certainly can/do improve resting DPV; it's just that many Cat2s are part of buffs and are therefore not resting. Pirate, Obelisk 2pc, CC 2pc, the other Nukara 2pc, APC-O, and a few more are Cat2 and do increase resting DPV. If you wanted to, you can sit in system space somewhere and see the DPV increase of most of the rest of the Cat2s out of combat. And the Cat1 set bonuses do not have an after-buff modifying effect.

    As for the rest of your post, I've got little to nothing. Tet buffs would buff the T5 Nukara power and the Obelisk core is inferior to the Butterfly. Maybe your Tet runs had a better/luckier team than the AP?​​
    Free jkname!
    Can we get some more (canon) KDF outfits, an assortment of respectable skirts/dresses, a long jacket (and more clothes in general) that does plain white well, melee weapon and Mk 15 drops, a T6 Nova, and account-wide lockbox/lobi/promo ships & consoles? Oh, and...
    Still waitin' on Klingon hairstyles actually worn on TV by a Klingon while we're at it.
  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,225 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    paxdawn wrote: »
    laferrari1 wrote: »
    *29k. And wow HSE, probably the most bugged mission on this planet. By the way you're challenging me to go against the borg... when you issued a challenge against my ship... are the borg supposed to be my opponent (and in that case, I wouldn't care as I already killed two or three Collectives so far doing PvE) or you? That doesn't quite sound like a genius thing if you're challenging me through NPCs.

    Also this and this and this were fights. Not the party talk of PvE.

    Twisted mind you got there. You said no survivability required in PvE. Now you point me into PvP when I am pointing you to PvE. Then, you make lousy excuses that HSE is a bugged mission. Whats that every challenging PvE is bugged/overpowered because you cannot personally finish it? While every not challenging PvE is easy? Make Excuse when it is hard, you flaunt when it is easy.

    You have proven again you are all talk. Create excuses whenever there is PvE challenge. BTW, if you comprehend what I said/answered the challenge is PvE not PvP since you were talking about PvE NOT PvP.

    Is custom in your part of the world to insult everybody who has different ideals to run STO than you?

    There are times when one gets the impression that you couldn’t stop it even if you want to.


    As for the OP, thank you very much for sharing this build. I’m currently rearranging my delta engineer and the toon is in need of a good ship. Krenim Warship is under consideration.
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  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    s2racing wrote: »
    s2racing wrote: »
    My advice is to go with Tetryon over Antiproton.

    You can get two category 2 buffs and the Temporal Warp Core is an Amp core.

    Which two? Unless I'm missing some, which I might be, Apex (at least on Tribble), Nukara, and Butterfly are all Cat1. If they were Cat2, they'd increase the resting DPV of my DHCs by closer to 200 than 50 and turrets by closer to 50 than 10.

    I am willing to admit I may have this wrong but I don't think you'd see Category 2 improve resting DPV at all. The difference with Category 2 is that it enhances in connunction with buffs. The resting DPV should be the same as Category 1 in the case of DMG mods and +damage set bonuses, shouldn't it? So it looks like category 1 while resting but boosts more in action because the multiplier is applied after buffs rather than before.

    Cat2s certainly can/do improve resting DPV; it's just that many Cat2s are part of buffs and are therefore not resting. Pirate, Obelisk 2pc, CC 2pc, the other Nukara 2pc, APC-O, and a few more are Cat2 and do increase resting DPV. If you wanted to, you can sit in system space somewhere and see the DPV increase of most of the rest of the Cat2s out of combat. And the Cat1 set bonuses do not have an after-buff modifying effect.

    As for the rest of your post, I've got little to nothing. Tet buffs would buff the T5 Nukara power and the Obelisk core is inferior to the Butterfly. Maybe your Tet runs had a better/luckier team than the AP?​​

    I was a bit murky there. I was thinking maybe the Tet boost IS cat 1 and that cat 1 boosts work better with fewer Tac abilities (because your crits would lack abilities to crit on with a crit focus). My gear is also focused on DMG mods (Dmgx4 wherever I could get my hands on it) which may get more out of the Tet damage boost...?
  • mosul33mosul33 Member Posts: 836 Arc User
    laferrari1 wrote: »
    paxdawn wrote: »
    To the OP, wrong audience. Too many trolls in the STO general discussion. Remain at reddit for less trolls and more players who want to learn. Besides this is general discussion. Should posted it at academy or builds subforum.
    laferrari1 wrote: »
    My science vessel would still crush it to death.
    No neutroniums = 1 minute combat time
    Uncontrolled damage = feedback pulse crit records

    Yep. But this is STO right now after all. Just deal damage and don't worry about survivability.

    Come to HSE with me and find out. Let see how your 20k shields last vs the Borg. Or Are you chicken and all talk?

    *29k. And wow HSE, probably the most bugged mission on this planet. By the way you're challenging me to go against the borg... when you issued a challenge against my ship... are the borg supposed to be my opponent (and in that case, I wouldn't care as I already killed two or three Collectives so far doing PvE) or you? That doesn't quite sound like a genius thing if you're challenging me through NPCs.

    Also this and this and this were fights. Not the party talk of PvE.

    Dont bother with this one. He is just a deluded troll who has nothing better to do then just to concoct awhole lots of nonsense, and even if he quotes you, the general consensus around here is to just ignore him. It will TRIBBLE him off more lol.

    Anyway, back to what you said, I would be so funny to see in how many hits this silly DPS build will get vaporised even by the NPC terran ships in the upcoming Counterpoint STF. Atm, on tribble, they got some nice torpedo spreads and feedback pulse. Just hope they will make it live tho.
    paxdawn wrote: »
    laferrari1 wrote: »
    *29k. And wow HSE, probably the most bugged mission on this planet. By the way you're challenging me to go against the borg... when you issued a challenge against my ship... are the borg supposed to be my opponent (and in that case, I wouldn't care as I already killed two or three Collectives so far doing PvE) or you? That doesn't quite sound like a genius thing if you're challenging me through NPCs.

    Also this and this and this were fights. Not the party talk of PvE.

    Twisted mind you got there. You said no survivability required in PvE. Now you point me into PvP when I am pointing you to PvE. Then, you make lousy excuses that HSE is a bugged mission. Whats that every challenging PvE is bugged/overpowered because you cannot personally finish it? While every not challenging PvE is easy? Make Excuse when it is hard, you flaunt when it is easy.

    You have proven again you are all talk. Create excuses whenever there is PvE challenge. BTW, if you comprehend what I said/answered the challenge is PvE not PvP since you were talking about PvE NOT PvP.

    Is custom in your part of the world to insult everybody who has a different ideals to run STO than you?

    There are times when one gets the impression that you couldn’t stop it even if you want to.


    As for the OP, thank you very much for sharing this build. I’m currently rearranging my delta engineer and the toon is in need of a good ship. Krenim Warship is under consideration.

    As I said, he is just a troll. Best to ignore him.
  • paxdawnpaxdawn Member Posts: 767 Arc User
    mosul33 wrote: »
    laferrari1 wrote: »
    paxdawn wrote: »
    To the OP, wrong audience. Too many trolls in the STO general discussion. Remain at reddit for less trolls and more players who want to learn. Besides this is general discussion. Should posted it at academy or builds subforum.
    laferrari1 wrote: »
    My science vessel would still crush it to death.
    No neutroniums = 1 minute combat time
    Uncontrolled damage = feedback pulse crit records

    Yep. But this is STO right now after all. Just deal damage and don't worry about survivability.

    Come to HSE with me and find out. Let see how your 20k shields last vs the Borg. Or Are you chicken and all talk?

    *29k. And wow HSE, probably the most bugged mission on this planet. By the way you're challenging me to go against the borg... when you issued a challenge against my ship... are the borg supposed to be my opponent (and in that case, I wouldn't care as I already killed two or three Collectives so far doing PvE) or you? That doesn't quite sound like a genius thing if you're challenging me through NPCs.

    Also this and this and this were fights. Not the party talk of PvE.

    Dont bother with this one. He is just a deluded troll who has nothing better to do then just to concoct awhole lots of nonsense, and even if he quotes you, the general consensus around here is to just ignore him. It will TRIBBLE him off more lol.

    Anyway, back to what you said, I would be so funny to see in how many hits this silly DPS build will get vaporised even by the NPC terran ships in the upcoming Counterpoint STF. Atm, on tribble, they got some nice torpedo spreads and feedback pulse. Just hope they will make it live tho.
    paxdawn wrote: »
    laferrari1 wrote: »
    *29k. And wow HSE, probably the most bugged mission on this planet. By the way you're challenging me to go against the borg... when you issued a challenge against my ship... are the borg supposed to be my opponent (and in that case, I wouldn't care as I already killed two or three Collectives so far doing PvE) or you? That doesn't quite sound like a genius thing if you're challenging me through NPCs.

    Also this and this and this were fights. Not the party talk of PvE.

    Twisted mind you got there. You said no survivability required in PvE. Now you point me into PvP when I am pointing you to PvE. Then, you make lousy excuses that HSE is a bugged mission. Whats that every challenging PvE is bugged/overpowered because you cannot personally finish it? While every not challenging PvE is easy? Make Excuse when it is hard, you flaunt when it is easy.

    You have proven again you are all talk. Create excuses whenever there is PvE challenge. BTW, if you comprehend what I said/answered the challenge is PvE not PvP since you were talking about PvE NOT PvP.

    Is custom in your part of the world to insult everybody who has a different ideals to run STO than you?

    There are times when one gets the impression that you couldn’t stop it even if you want to.


    As for the OP, thank you very much for sharing this build. I’m currently rearranging my delta engineer and the toon is in need of a good ship. Krenim Warship is under consideration.

    As I said, he is just a troll. Best to ignore him.

    Which is no different from what you, laferarri1 or peterconnorfist is doing this thread or the other threads. You won't see me posting had laferrari1 didn't post that kind of post. The difference would be I am replying to you or laferrari1 which makes you the receiving end of things instead the one giving. This means if those quality of posts or misinformation exists, you would know I would be lurking around. If those kinds of post don't exist, most likely you won't see me posting.

    The most blunt definition I can make assuming that my understanding of trolls is correct from your posts is I am the one who troll trolls.
  • sennahcheribsennahcherib Member Posts: 2,823 Arc User
    someone could explain: cat1 and cat2. thx :)
  • cbrjwrrcbrjwrr Member Posts: 2,782 Arc User
    someone could explain: cat1 and cat2. thx :)

    https://www.reddit.com/r/stobuilds/comments/2h3fvc/of_theorycrafting_and_numbers/? - that will help. :)
  • wintermutevreswintermutevres Member Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    I didn't play for a while so i missed a lot of changes. Did they change [EPS] mod and consoles? Because as far as i remember it only affected speed of power transfer when you change power profiles and it didn't have any effect on power recovery when you fire.
  • cbrjwrrcbrjwrr Member Posts: 2,782 Arc User
    It used to affect power recovery in firing years ago, but doesn't now.
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